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Evaluations progress seen behind the scenes, despite public spat

Tensions between the city and teachers over their t0-the-wire teacher evaluation talks bubbled over in 140 characters early this morning, sending both sides into their respective corners for most of the day.

But state education officials said the city Department of Education and the UFT had been laying the groundwork for a successful submission before the end of the day on Thursday, the deadline for districts to adopt new evaluations or lose state funding.

After a negotiations-packed weekend in which both city and union officials acknowledged that progress had been made, talks went late into the night on Monday at the union’s headquarters. But a little after 1:30 a.m., Leo Casey, a former vice president for the union who has stayed on to finish the evaluations deal, suggested in a Twitter message that negotiations had fizzled out.

“At UFT. Negotiating team prepared to do round the clock negotiating, with full team present,” Casey wrote. “But DOE leaves.”

Department officials were back in the room again today, despite frustration over a union request filed on Monday for a third-party mediator to assist the negotiations through the last remaining issues on the table. (City and union officials both declined to specify what is still up for discussion, but sticking points in the past have been the city’s implementation plan and whether principals would be required to discuss teachers’ ratings with them in person.)

The city’s lawyers rejected the union’s request today and in a statement, Chancellor Dennis Walcott said seeking an independent mediator was the union’s latest effort to negotiate terms unrelated to an evaluation.

”The UFT’s call for a mediator is designed to insert issues into the deal outside of the evaluation’s scope,” he said in a statement. “Mr. Mulgrew should allow his team to negotiate directly the few remaining issues necessary to reach a teacher evaluation deal.”

In his own statement Mulgrew put the chances of a deal in doubt.

“The city’s blind rejection of outside help in resolving these remaining issues is unexplainable, and poses a serious threat to our ability to reach an agreement before Thursday’s deadline,” he said.

But union leaders continued to prepare its members to review a plan should one be agreed upon before the deadline.

Vice President Leroy Barr called members of the union’s evaluations committee to a meeting on Wednesday afternoon. ”Please note that we need you in attendance on Wednesday, January 16th at 4:15PM,” Barr wrote in an email to the 150-teacher committee this evening. ”As promised, we want to give you updates at that time.”

In an interview, Mulgrew said the evaluation committee meeting should not be taken as a sign that a deal is near.

”I told them I’d keep then updated about roughly where we’re at,” Mulgrew said. “What I’ll have to tell them I guess is we’re at a stalemate.”

If the union’s leadership agrees on a plan, a larger group of union members known as the Delegate Assembly must approve it. The Delegate Assembly is scheduled to meet Thursday afternoon, just hours before the state deadline.

Education Commissioner John King said again this afternoon that state officials are prepared to work overtime to review and, if possible, provide feedback for a resubmission before the deadline.

And Regents Chancellor Merryl Tisch, confirming for the first time that state education officials were informally approving elements of an evaluation system before it is finalized, said she remained confident that the city and union would submit an approvable plan.

“We have been led to believe that what they are starting to submit piecemeal is actionable in a positive way from the state education department,” Tisch said. “I would really be surprised at the end of the day, with all the technical assistance that has been available to the districts, with their ability to go online and see all the approved plans, with their ability to backchannel with key people who have been involved with masterminding this entire process, that they would not meet the requirements statutorily.”

  • http://nyceducator.com/ NYC Educator

    It’s kind of remarkable, in education, that so many big shots choose to pursue and enable voodoo rather than science.

  • wise owl

    150 teacher committee? Who are these teachers and how did they get chosen? Are they new teachers? I would like to see a list of their names. It’s my right, I am a UFT member. Did they elect themselves like Master Bloomberg did? Are they working for Bloomberg or the UFT? Does anyone know anything about these teachers? Do they really exist? How come I was not chosen? How come none of the commentators on here were chosen? What the hell is going on here? NO CONTRACT NO EVALUATION, NO CONTRACT NO EVALUATION. You cannot do this midyear especially in a high school.  They can stay up all night again. Does anyone realize with these new evaluations that 10 administrators can come in at once to observe you? How do you explain this to your students? These are STRANGERS in their room. I realize that they could not care less about how a teacher feels but they are putting unnecessary stress on the kids. I can’t predict how my students are going to react can you predict what yours will do?

  • Clay

    Leroy Barr = UFT staff director

  • wise owl

    You know I was not aware of how many administrators are on here. No offense but I wonder if my principal is one of them?  That’s why we have to remain we all have to remain anonymous. I wonder if they are on here trying to figure out who is saying what? Well it doesn’t stop me I’m going to keep on keeping on!  So when and where is the demonstration going to be on January 17th? I think that I am not going to feel well that day-cough cough! Actually a “Blue Flu” isn’t a bad idea either. You know the flu is going around! Let’s call Dr. Bloomberg. Money was missing from my check today to pay for taxes. And money was missing due to union dues. What union? SOMEBODY is representing me? SOMEBODY is talking up for me? I DON’T want the new evaluation. Who said that I want the new evaluation? Please don’t put words in my mouth.

  • wise owl

    I wish that I were on that committee. I would stomp on that evaluation in front of everybody . I would throw it on the floor and stomp on it!

  • Vote NO!

     There  are   two  principals  from  Long  Island  that  are  leading  the  protests  against  this  evaluation  scheme.  It  is  NOT  goof  for  any  school  based  educators.

  • Hhhyyhhh

    And that would accomplish what? Change is coming, it is the only constant.

  • wise owl

    You know that the new evaluation means at least 6 observations have to be made to each teacher by their A.P./princpal etc. This will include untenured and tenured. I’m surprised that the CSA is not objecting to this. How the hell are they going to find the time?

  • Guest

    My students will be quiet like they always are when an administrator enters the room.  When they leave, they will ask ‘Who were those people.  I neve saw them in my life.” 

  • wise owl

    Sing God Bless America when the administrators walk in!

  • Indigo112

    An assault is change…stupid concepts said often, are still stupid. Change comes in many forms, we don’t have to accept being assaulted by the NYC DOE…but that would not be change anyway.

  • Jdbalthazar

    The deal is done…Has been done for weeks. This is all a ploy to ram it through in the last hour so teachers can’t organize and protest. Make us think they only agreed moments before…no time to inform us.

    Our Union wants to push hard, rough, make it quick, and by the time we scream “NO!” It’s already over and we can’t go to the police and report it and get help, we feel guilty and responsible after…or was that a bad date I had…Either way Mulgrew was there.

  • Guest

    They wont. They will have to HIRE more admins.  

  • bookworm

     Exactly. There are school districts in the ‘burbs, which already have these APPR evals in place, that are looking to hire more administrators so they can keep up with all the observations and documentation it requires. This even AS the districts are raising class sizes, laying off teachers and slashing programs to comply with the 2% tac cap law.

  • Seeker

    BOTTOM LINE: Your individual school UFT rep/DA must vote “No” on Thursday. If this deal goes through, the responsibility will rest 100% on the shoulders of the UFT chapter rep/DA’s from your school. If your UFT school rep/DA does not attend the meeting on Thursday to vote this down, they are just as guilty as voting for it. Every single teacher in NYC must talk to their UFT school rep/DA today and tell them to vote “No”. on Thursday. This is the only possible solution to delay this nightmare. Your school’s UFT rep/DA’s must not be manipulated by Unity to vote for this new evaluation. Each individual school UFT rep/DA will be the only people to vote on this and represent the rank and file of NYC and not Unity!!!

  • Pogue

    Chapter leaders need to VOTE NO.  If an agreement is made between Mulgrew and Bloomberg, it is only fair and wise to give teachers/chapter leaders time to understand, then digest what is being changed.

    Deadline or no deadline, major changes of a contract or policy need time, by those it affects the most, to peruse it carefully.

    It is 5:30 in the morning of one day before an assembly of Chapter Leaders.  In my humble opinion, a deadline of being given sufficient time to look at any new agreement has passed.

    Vote no.

  • Teacher

    All NYC teachers need to come to the rally at 3:30 in front of the UFT HQ on thurs. We need them to know that they must vote no! Teachers get your markers ready. 

  • Dina

    Does anyone know the exact time of day that the deadline ends tomorrow? Something to look forward to. I hope that SOB Cuomo keeps his promise and does not give an extension!

  • Vote NO!

    The  school  bus  drivers  went  on  trike  to  protect  the  membership.  The  UFT  will   sell  out  the  membership  for  a  little  over  1%  of  the  city  school  budget.  The  250  million  dollars  in  state  aid  is nothing  compared  to  what  the  APPR  will  cost  the  NYC  school  system.

  • Guest

    most chapter leaders are unity. they will vote yes.

  • deuceman99

    i want to know why the teachers themselves have no vote in this matter. that is a disgrace. this evaluation thing is designed only and only to make it easier to fire teachers. thats it. plain and simple. and you can bet that the uft will sell us out once again. 

  • Nyr683

    Mulgrew, UFT, not for one minute should we give in to anything this bloomy administration wants….This is sick people, 97 percent of all New York districts have submitted their evaluations plans…its only here where we all are stuck with this ridiculous mayor who has created more tension in NYC than people can stand……look at the bus drivers, bloomy giving these hard working people stress in their lives claiming we are going to save money…thats baloney 

  • Nyr683

    People, if we let it happen your kids are going to be driven to school by an $8 an hour immigrant to a school where your kids teachers is barely out of college and still hung over from college days now teaching your kid because they are cheap salary…lol…what  a joke people get bloomy out of here,,,im telling you its all because of him

  • ArneDunkinDonuts

    Why doesn’t Gotham do some investigative work on how a new evaluation system can possibly work better than what is in place if it contains junk science / metrics systems and an overwhelming amount of principals who never spent more than 2 – 3 years in the system before becoming “supervisors of instruction?” It is absolutely incredible how this last fact is often ignored. The DOE, UFT and CSA should all be ashamed of themselves for collaborating and creating accountability systems that include the “blind leading the blind.” The perfect analogy is my becoming the head of brain surgery at NYU because I am familiar with pictures of the brain and have some textbooks about how brains function. It’s one big disgrace. The UFT should lock arms with the community and demand a total transformation of our education system that centers on a rich and diversified curriculum which incorporates the arts and displaces high stakes exams, focuses on lowering class sizes and requires not only better prepared and trained teachers via some type of “apprenticeship,” program but also a serious set of standards regarding principal recruitment linked with instructional experience and background.

    You can’t transform a system without building capacity! Shoving “accountability” down everyone’s throats is “educational suicide.”MOREOVER, THE UFT MUST PUT FORTH AN ECONOMIC PLATFORM THAT LEADS THE WAY FOR COMMUNITIES TO PRESSURE ELECTED OFFICIALS TO CREATE TRADE SCHOOLS AND JOBS PROGRAMS . IF THE UFT IS SERIOUS ABOUT TEACHING AND TEACHERS, THEY MIGHT WANT TO DROP THE “UNION OF PROFESSIONALS” BULLSHIT AND AIM FOR HELPING COMMUNITIES TO EMPOWER THEMSELVES SO THAT THE STUDENTS WHO COME INTO OUR SCHOOLS WILL BE BETTER PREPARED AND READY TO LEARN.PATHETIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

  • Kmark29

    Our chapter leader at Grady will shine Mulgrew’s shoes after voting for the sellout agreement that is for sure happening.  I guess they’re going down to the deadline to increase the drama?

  • Cmanosuft

    Excuse me Kmark29 this is Chris Manos chapter leader at Grady HS. Please come see me in school so we can discuss your inaccurate comment. 

  • deuceman99

    guarentee there will be a last minute deal. uft should never agree to anything but you watch they will. and why the teacher have no vote ill never know. 

  • Indigo112

    No time, governor will extend, but the deal was done a week ago. So teachers can’t protest they are waiting to ram it through tomorrow!

  • Disgusted 3 years

    Why are contract talks not a part of these discussions?  Does the Mayor think that he can piecemeal the teachers and give them nothing?  Is the new tactic for not giving teachers any raises by prolonging contract talks and then saying that there is no money for that extended period of time? The Mayor gives us nothing but negative speech and expects us to go over and above the call of duty.  We are real saps if we agree to this!

  • Lost years

    During the Mayor’s last re-election bid he held a carrot of a 4% raise in pattern bargaining in front of the Union if they didn’t oppose him. He was clever…we were dumb.  EVERY TIME WE FALL FOR HIS PROMISES..WE LOSE!  Now is not the time to give in.  If the City loses funding from the Fed and State, it will be another reason to give the teachers NOTHING! He is not running for re-election. He is giving us a choice of shooting ourselves in the head or in the foot. The best thing to do is not give in to a pressure situation. What do you think the next Mayor is going to do?  They will certainly not make up the time of money we have lost?  This Mayor will never sign a contract with this Union.  Why we talk to him at all is beyond me.  He will carry a smirk on his face in relation to the teachers until he is out of office.  He may as well leave with the black mark of lost funding and educational disgrace on his legacy.

  • Senior Teacher

    Nobody at Grady is shining anyone’s shoes!  Props to you Chris and did Kmark29 meet you finally?

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