Comments on: Department of Education wants the state to let it certify teachers http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/ Tue, 18 Jun 2013 20:40:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: NYR683 http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378655 NYR683 Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:54:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378655 DO NOT VOTE FOR CHRISTINE QUINN FOR MAYOR…DO NOT !!!!!

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]]> By: Go figure http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378637 Go figure Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:33:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378637  You know, even the above wouldn’t be so bad if one conveniently forgot the fact that now, a perfectly wonderful DOE teacher’s career has been disabled (let’s hope not permanently, we’ll see) in the process, through no fault of the teacher.

]]> By: Wow! http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378636 Wow! Thu, 18 Oct 2012 10:28:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378636 Hey, Mr. Mayor –

I know a DOE tenured teacher who survived the 3020a attempted-lynching process, who’s got a very distinguished proven student achievement record, near perfect attendance, etc..

(This is despite the 3020a charges of “incompetence.”  The school where he was charged has stopped offering what he taught; they’ve not replaced him and they’re not looking to replace him. They’ve thus dumbed down the curriculum instead, despite the fact that his students had the best Regents passing rate among all comparable schools in the borough.)

He’s certified in Chemistry and General Science, AND in Special Ed.

He’s in the ATR pool (just started there this September). 

I hear you need him. 

You’re paying him anyway.

(Strange that you think it’s better to shlep him around from week to week as a sub., than to allow that salary money you’re already paying him to actually give students the maximum benefit from his expertise.)

P.S. — Oh, I forgot: He’s makes too much — 12th yr. in the system, masters-plus-30, TENURED.
Can you spell: U-n-i-o-n  B-u-s-t-i-n-g ????

P.P.S. — No biggie: He’s loved and appreciated everywhere he’s been assigned anyway.  They see the talent, proven experience with the children, and commitment that his former principal was blind to. (A.K.A.– …his former principal wanted to cut her salary costs — good for some kind of feather in her cap or a bonus or something. And she resented that he was so respected [perhaps more respected than she is?] and That was more important than the kids getting a quality education.)

]]> By: Disgruntled SPED Teacher http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378634 Disgruntled SPED Teacher Thu, 18 Oct 2012 09:34:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378634 IF the DOE would stop driving out experienced teachers (because they cost too much money), they wouldn’t have this terrible shortage.  This is just another way to cut educational expenses at the children’s cost.

]]> By: NYC Sped http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378607 NYC Sped Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:32:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378607 I know plenty of teachers who are certified in special education who don’t get hired because they’re more expensive than Teaching Fellows. I’ve also seen the same with speech therapists who are certified but have to work for agencies because the system for hiring them within the DoE is such a mess. 

Why not use working as a paraprofessional a pathway for certification? We waste the talent of some of our most experienced employees. Just recently, a para who is 5 credits short of special education certification told me she stopped her classes this semester because she couldn’t charge anymore to her credit card! When I helped her look into it, there were no programs available to support her. Yet, across the hallway a Teaching Fellow is barely managing to survive her first weeks in a city self-contained classroom, having had no idea what she was getting herself into, in addition to no training. 

]]> By: East Sider http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378599 East Sider Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:48:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378599 The Urban Teacher Residency (UTR) programs are highly successful in retaining teachers, and expensive – currently funded with federaral dollars. There are a number of sites in NYC. It sounds like Suransky is talking about a UTR-type program run from within the DOE. Currently UTR sites have relationships with universities. Its basically an internship model – worthwhile trying a pilot especially in shortage license areas.

]]> By: Mbr11001 http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378595 Mbr11001 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:45:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378595 So I guess this would mean that you will no longer need any degree to teach the children of NYC. That will save lots of $$ on salaries because salaries would be less for those without a degree – or would they be more because they were trained by strong teachers for who knows how long…… As with any program, you come to the job with the basics and learn on the job what each school needs from you (or each businesse). But in most businesses there is a introductory/training programto get you started. hmmm, Isn’t the DOE run like a business??? I have seen so many teachers pushed out the door because they didn’t kiss the principals ring and tried to teach out students. This sounds like it could turn into indoctrination.

]]> By: Michele Hirsch2009 http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378594 Michele Hirsch2009 Wed, 17 Oct 2012 17:35:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378594 This is the Romney plan for Education; his advisor has said they want to remove the criteria of Highly Qualified Teacher. Maybe Mayor Bloomberg is Romney’s Education Advisor.

]]> By: Mikkemadden http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378592 Mikkemadden Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:37:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378592 you will also find so called “consultants” walking the halls with papers in hand trying desperately to look busy…..if you ask they who they are they say we are “consultants”.  consultants for what?  its hysterical….consultants walking around working (on what i have no idea) non for profit people walking around working and the doe people sitting in the lounge trying to understand the theory behind our mayor and his bloombucks policies….you know, just because someone has money it does not mean they are smart… 

]]> By: Mikkemadden http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378591 Mikkemadden Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:32:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378591 its hysterical because you can walk into any school today and notice that there are atr teachers sitting around doing nothing while the schools have non for profit teachers, counselors working the school!!!! non doe people working as “counselor” or as they call them “advisors” with real doe teachers and counselors sitting in the lunch room.  as they say……you can’t make this up if you ttied

]]> By: Mikkemadden http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378590 Mikkemadden Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:30:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378590 Please Mr. New Mayor, I hope you are following all of this crap we educators have had to endure from the bloomdoe administration.  Please help our system get back to some stability, decency, respect for the professionals we are.  Our lame duck mayor has destroyed the reputation of the very people in the trenches…..why?  Where is our new mayor please help us get out of this maze of bs.

]]> By: Lookerq http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378588 Lookerq Wed, 17 Oct 2012 15:20:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378588 since Bloomberg took over the department of education he has been aggressively working to discredit the teaching profession and disband the organization … this is just another step toward that goal.
The DOE can’t even hire qualified staff to manage the instructional branches of the institution … cute little graduates roam the halls of Tweed lost in the maze of their own lack of experience and understanding of the system … yet making decision that are adversly affecting millions of

]]> By: Anonymous http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378575 Anonymous Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:37:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378575 Just curious if anyone realizes this would be a return to a discredited system the City had in the 70′s that was soundly rejected by the Feds and in fact led to the NCLB requirement for exceptionally qualified Teachers . TFA and the reformers have been pounding and scheming ways around this since it started -does it really make logical sense
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]]> By: Fabian http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378574 Fabian Wed, 17 Oct 2012 09:31:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378574 Suransky is a snake

]]> By: BloombergMustGo http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378567 BloombergMustGo Wed, 17 Oct 2012 02:09:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378567 Somewhere in all this poop there is a fox and a henhouse involved.
Talk about the inmates running the asylum.
Tisch, King, Bloomberg, Polakow-Suransky must be on meth or ecstasy.  No sane person would have the nerve to make these suggestions in public.

]]> By: Former Teacher http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378566 Former Teacher Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:38:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378566 I have another idea.  Let’s take this one step further.  Since we have a shortage fo general practitioners in the medical field, we should get college graduates and let them bypass medical school and have a veteran doctor train them.  That way we can train them in the skills we need and not worry about all this time and money spent in medical school.  I am sure we all want to be treated by these doctors.

]]> By: I noticed that... http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378564 I noticed that... Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:35:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378564 I smelled something rotten in the state of Bloomberg and the DoE! 

]]> By: I noticed that... http://gothamschools.org/2012/10/16/department-of-education-wants-the-state-to-let-it-certify-teachers/comment-page-1/#comment-378565 I noticed that... Wed, 17 Oct 2012 01:35:00 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=93378#comment-378565 I smell something rotten in the state of ….

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