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	<title>Comments on: Comparison of new and old state tests hint at challenge to come</title>
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		<title>By: Travis Dove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, why is there an apostrophe in &quot;stars.&quot; ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, why is there an apostrophe in &#8220;stars.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>By: Travis Dove</title>
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		<dc:creator>Travis Dove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 00:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[6x4=24 :D]]></description>
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		<title>By: None</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 23:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I object to the phrase &quot;number sentence&quot; in the sample question. This is not mathematical terminology. The use of proper mathematical terminology is extremely important. Math concepts are often subtle, and thus are precisely defined in order to eliminate the possibility of ambiguity. Is an expression like 7 x 8 also a number sentence? Or is a number sentence only to be used in the case of equations, such as 7 x 8 = 56? If students can handle the words &quot;equal sign,&quot; I have little doubt using the correct word, equation, would cause them significant difficulty.

Further, use of the phrase &quot;number sentence&quot; adds nothing to the question. In fact, if a student was not taught to use that exact (non-mathematical) phrase, it becomes possible for the student to become unnecessarily confused about true nature of the question. I suspect there would be a correlation between correct responses to this question and the textbook used by the student (assuming the textbooks taught this particular concept). This greatly weakens the question&#039;s validity.

I have no complaint about the nature of the question. Thinking of multiplication as repeated grouping of identical groups is fantastic conceptually. But pinning the results of this assessment on imprecise language is just not professional. I hope the actual CCLS exams do a better job of isolating mathematical thinking than this question suggests.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I object to the phrase &#8220;number sentence&#8221; in the sample question. This is not mathematical terminology. The use of proper mathematical terminology is extremely important. Math concepts are often subtle, and thus are precisely defined in order to eliminate the possibility of ambiguity. Is an expression like 7 x 8 also a number sentence? Or is a number sentence only to be used in the case of equations, such as 7 x 8 = 56? If students can handle the words &#8220;equal sign,&#8221; I have little doubt using the correct word, equation, would cause them significant difficulty.</p>
<p>Further, use of the phrase &#8220;number sentence&#8221; adds nothing to the question. In fact, if a student was not taught to use that exact (non-mathematical) phrase, it becomes possible for the student to become unnecessarily confused about true nature of the question. I suspect there would be a correlation between correct responses to this question and the textbook used by the student (assuming the textbooks taught this particular concept). This greatly weakens the question&#8217;s validity.</p>
<p>I have no complaint about the nature of the question. Thinking of multiplication as repeated grouping of identical groups is fantastic conceptually. But pinning the results of this assessment on imprecise language is just not professional. I hope the actual CCLS exams do a better job of isolating mathematical thinking than this question suggests.</p>
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		<title>By: East Sider</title>
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		<dc:creator>East Sider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Oct 2012 19:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Egads, you mean we can&#039;t use the test prep books from last year? Do not fear, we&#039;ll be stapling a chip into each kid&#039;s earlobe and with a swipe of your I-Phone 5 - voila!!  data download to the big computer in the sky, a humm, a calculation in a nanosecond - and the Teacher Data Score pops up on your Facebook page ...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Egads, you mean we can&#8217;t use the test prep books from last year? Do not fear, we&#8217;ll be stapling a chip into each kid&#8217;s earlobe and with a swipe of your I-Phone 5 &#8211; voila!!  data download to the big computer in the sky, a humm, a calculation in a nanosecond &#8211; and the Teacher Data Score pops up on your Facebook page &#8230;</p>
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