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“A day after Chicago Public Schools’ teachers overwhelmingly authorized a strike, CBS 2 wanted to know how much the average teacher earns.  As CBS 2’s Dana Kozlov found out, it depends on who you ask.”

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/06/12/how-much-do-chicago-public-school-teachers-make/

“Salary figures provided by the Chicago Public Schools show teachers here have the highest average salary of any city in the nation. But, according to the Chicago Teachers Union’s calculations, Chicago teachers would rank second behind New York City.”

I assume that’s the local union saying that.  Not Randi Weingarten or Mike Mulgrew.

“A Chicago Public Schools spokesperson said average pay for teachers, without benefits, is $76,000.  But a Teachers Union attorney said the number provided by CPS doesn’t tell the whole story.”

“When you’re looking at compensation, it’s not enough just to look at salary, because Chicago Public Schools teachers have to pay more for their insurance, and they get less of a contribution from the employer for their pension than in other cities,” CTU attorney Robert Bloch said.

That certainly isn’t something the UFT wants to talk about.

“Bloch said per-pupil pay is lower in Chicago than in many cities, too. He said those factors need to be taken into consideration, by both CPS and the public.”

Of course because I download data on how NYC teacher pay and benefits compare with other places, I hate teachers are am against the middle class.

There are two sides to what is happening to education finances.  Retroactive pension increases, and taxpayers not putting enough in.  In the case of the UFT, it is the retroactive increases that are almost completely responsible for the re-destruction of the NYC schools.  So the head of the national union, Weingarten, may be restrained in talking about inadequate taxpayer funding elsewhere.  Funny that it is the Chicago union that brought up New York.

Larry,

You need to find a new hobby. It’s pretty sad how you constantly harp on teacher’s pensions as if they’re the cause of this city’s financial troubles. You would have more credibility if you ever bothered to scrutinize the ridiculous unsupervised private contracts that have become a Bloomberg staple–but no, it’s the teachers!

Larry, they have programs at the library, crochet classes, heck, there’s even a dating site for people 50+! Stop being miserable, get out there!

 ”As we explained on Monday, Lewis came to power as the head of a left-wing minority caucus. (WSJ) – I should have caught this before.
I’m curious on what basis did you brand CORE as left-wing? I can’t see one thing in their program or platform or demands that makes them left-wing. I’m sure there are left-wingers as there are right-wingers in CORE. Does fighting the ed deformers make you left wing?
I don’t see the WSJ article branding them as left-wing. I do see this comment:
“Ms. Lewis “has thrown down a national gauntlet, of sorts, and said
mayors and other reformers won’t define teaching—teachers will define
it,” said Barbara Radner, director of the Center for Urban Education at
DePaul University. “This is about the soul of teaching and who is going
to define it going forward.”
Militant maybe. There are right-wing militants too. The new MORE caucus here in NYC which models itself on CORE has left, center and even Republicans who are militant unionists.

You know the term “left-wing” is toxic when people ask to be referred to as “militant” instead.   

Two things I’ve never seen on these message boards:  (1) anyone engaging and rebutting Larry on any the points he’s made; and (2) Larry making a personal attack against any other poster.   

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I agree he is a one subject person who never stays on topic. He can demean teachers and you protect him at all costs.  Teachers have worked hard to get their deserved pensions. I for one have grown  tired of him calling me greedy. He hides his hidden agenda and all you have to do is use the internet to learn a lot more about Larry.