Comments on: Disciplinary code revisions could reduce student suspensions

By: someonewhocares

someonewhocares — Sun, 02 Sep 2012 00:25:00 +0000

Yes, I’ve had this problem repeatedly. Before you go through all the steps, you get so aggravated you just give up. It’s almost impossible sometimes to get parents to come up to the school. All the while, the child is still tormenting your class. I don’t care what anyone says, it’s not the teacher’s classroom management. I can manage a classroom. The trouble is managing individual behaviors. Whenever I take seminars on classroom management, it’s the same thing. Have routines set in place, have rules posted, reward positive behavior. That still doesn’t do anything about all the texting, the cursing, throwing things, lateness, talking, putting heads down in class, asking repeatedly for the bathroom pass, and my all time favorite, coming to class stoned.

By: Teacher22

Teacher22 — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 17:10:00 +0000

East Sider. Where? Upper East Side? Do your kids go to private school?

By: Wheresthetruth

Wheresthetruth — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:57:00 +0000

What does any of that have to do with tenure? Your subconscious is leaking out.

By: Iteachdoyou

Iteachdoyou — Sat, 01 Sep 2012 14:53:00 +0000

“Similar kids”…. What’s that supposed to mean? If they’re similar and they’re trouble-makers, they’ll misbehave in both classes. Your argument is ridiculous. The trouble-makers misbehave in all their classes with all their teachers. You obviously don’t deal with children very much. And if you have children of your own, and they’re well-behaved and courteous, then God bless you.

By: Time On Our Side

Time On Our Side — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:31:00 +0000

Can’t forget those who already “know” (and possibly mastered the content or close to it) and cannot handle their boredom in a more constructive manner appropriate in an academic setting.

By: Time On Our Side

Time On Our Side — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 02:23:00 +0000

Because they’re similar, but not mirror copies of one another.

By: Ellen

Ellen — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:54:00 +0000

sorry…I meant Asiseeit

By: Ellen

Ellen — Fri, 31 Aug 2012 00:53:00 +0000

In response to Assiseeit
In your experience…how many schools have you been in to see this type of horror…20-30-40? Do you really believe that all of the schools are that screwed up? Are you talking across the board or only at one level?

By: East Sider

East Sider — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 23:57:00 +0000

In classes side by side with similar kids one room behaves and the other disrupts … why?

By: BloombergSucks

BloombergSucks — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 22:34:00 +0000

From an article on NY1:

“Violence in city schools is on the rise.

According to numbers released by the state, incidents of sexual assaults and serious fights jumped 50 percent since record keeping began in 2005.
Data shows the 2010-2011 school years set record highs in several dubious categories, as assaults with serious injury and assaults involving a weapon more than doubled since 2009 and 2008, respectively.
Cases of bullying as well as drug and alcohol possession also jumped.
However, the number of students carrying weapons is on the decline.
New York City education officials attributed the jump in incidents largely to better reporting by schools rather than a spike in violence.”

Long Live the SPIN DOCTORS!!!

By: Teachforlife

Teachforlife — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 21:22:00 +0000

The problem is….

We are TEACHERS, not JAIL WARDENS. There’s only so much a teacher can do as far as discipline is concerned. Our job is to teach. Unfortunately, most our time/energy is spent trying to stop disruptive behavior. All it takes is ONE disruptive student to ruin an entire class. And the school system makes it virtually impossible to remove a trouble-maker. So the trouble-makers win.

By: Kpsmove

Kpsmove — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 19:57:00 +0000

I am not sure but I believe this thread has been invaded by trolls. As far as discipline goes I personally have been biten and threatened with being shot by students but it is the world that they live in that produces such reaction. I believe that the full weight of discipline should befall any student who disrupts the atmosphere of learning and prevents others from learning. The contact the parents is a fine tool but if after two contacts or no call back the situation needs to be elevated to a Threat to learning environment status so they can do what they want with the code but at some point and time it needs to be enforced with out impartiality.

By: East Sider

East Sider — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 14:54:00 +0000

Few kids whose behavior warrents suspension in grades K-3 ever graduate from high school. In fact, experienced teachers in pre-K can identify kids who are tracking towards dropping out. The “solution” was to refer the kid for special ed placement, not that the placement had any real impact.

If there is an “answer” it may be in community schools, schools with onsite social services that can deal with the kid and the family.

BTW, as an aside, the comments by some who call themselves teachers are grist for those who want to abolish tenure.

By: someone who cares

someone who cares — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 05:03:00 +0000

One big problem in the high school level is most of the kids who get suspended don’t even go to school anyway and if they do they cut class by either coming in late or leaving early. They don’t care about getting or losing more class time.

By: BloombergSucks

BloombergSucks — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 01:00:00 +0000

What a FanTastic idea!! Truly revolutionary!! An idea whose time has come!!!!

“Police in the Bronx are looking for a teenager who punched a city bus driver in the face earlier this month.”

By: Limpia

Limpia — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:56:00 +0000

I think parents, home life are a large part. Also, I think due to testing and teaching to the test at the grade level, with no slower class with less difficult work,kids act out because it’s too hard for them, ofttimes. Just look at the numbers of kids with low test grades in reading.The boys especially don’t wanna even try because they see they don’t have the vocab,critical thinking skills that are required. They might get there eventually but they need a slower pace and affirmation. OTherwise, they are not being really taught, and that is due to the system.

By: Coacheagle22

Coacheagle22 — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:40:00 +0000

I understand the need for discipline and I also understand that we need an alternative to suspensions. Administrators really need to begin hiring the best match for the students they serve.

I believe that the changes in the discipline code will force administrators to come up with creative ways to discipline without disenfranchising minority students.

By: CannabalL

CannabalL — Thu, 30 Aug 2012 00:16:00 +0000

hey lomanshirerr. What’s is your profession, and what do make. I have been
teaching for 38 years and will retire this year. My pension will be 94k, plus I will get 50k for my sick days. I will collect social security for another 22k. The interest on my TDA at 7% will add another 63k a year and my medical benefites are probably worth another 10k at least. I should be able to afford to voice my comments. If when you retire you need a job you can always come work for me at my beach house in lido, I might even let you polish my vet. Until you walk a day in my shoes shut the “F” up.

By: guess

guess — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 22:20:00 +0000

Exactly. I take mine every year! With per session I actually take 118K-120K and I never complain, I just laugh.

By: Mr. Flerporillo

Mr. Flerporillo — Wed, 29 Aug 2012 18:50:00 +0000

I’m “liking” this exclusively on style points.