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Annual survey reflects sanguine views of school performance

A slide from the Department of Education's presentation of this year's Learning Environment Survey results shows teachers' responses to questions about their evaluations.

Results of the city’s annual survey of what parents, students and teachers think about their schools paints a much rosier picture than data on school performance indicate.

It also offers a rosier picture of teachers’ views of their evaluation system than both city and union officials have painted in the past.

This year, 94 percent of parents said they were “satisfied” with their children’s education, and 95 percent of students said they have to “work hard to get good grades” — figures city officials touted as a sign that the schools are becoming more rigorous. Answering a new question, 94 percent of teachers said their school “does a good job supporting students who aspire to go to 2- or 4-year colleges.”

Those responses suggest that city parents, students, and teachers remain sanguine about their schools even as the city and state have mounted a concerted effort to raise expectations. The Learning Environment Survey results, which the city published today, come on the heels of annual state test scores that showed for the second straight year that fewer than half of the city’s third through eighth graders are reading at grade level. And while the city’s “college-readiness” rate inched up since it was first announced last year, only about a quarter of students meet the city’s and state’s standards.

The survey results do signal that some schools are beginning to ask more of their students. Since 2009, the proportion of high school students who say they are receiving “helpful” college and career counseling has risen from 74 to 82 percent. And while the number of students reporting sophisticated research or essay assignments barely budged, the number who said they had been asked to “complete an essay or project where [they] had to use evidence to defend [their] own opinion or ideas” three or more times increased sharply, from 62 percent in 2011 to 67 percent this year.

That type of assignment reflects a central objective of the city’s new learning standards, the Common Core. This year’s survey polled teachers about their familiarity with the Common Core, which city officials say is key to boosting student achievement and college readiness. Halfway into a year of practicing with the Common Core, nearly all teachers (92 percent) said they “understand” the standards that will underly next year’s state tests.

Survey results count for about 10 percent of schools’ annual Department of Education rating. But teachers’ Common Core responses will not factor in, nor will their answers to questions about the working environment at their schools and about their satisfaction with the city’s current teacher evaluation system.

City and teachers union officials alike have argued that the current “satisfactory/unsatisfactory” system does not capture an accurate or useful picture of teacher performance. But on the survey, half of teachers said they thought the current evaluation system recognizes excellence, and 57 percent said they thought it provided specific enough feedback to help them improve. The state is requiring districts to overhaul their systems according to specific constraints, but so far the city and teachers union have not agreed on a new model.

The city has conducted annual surveys of students, teachers, and parents since 2007, and with nearly 1 million respondents, the survey ranks as the largest conducted in the United States other than the census, Department of Education officials frequently say. Officials have also cited the survey results as proof that “real parents” support the department’s reform efforts, even as some parents criticize the department.

Critics of the surveys have long charged that the surveys evince an overly positive outlook, and some teachers have complained that administrators have pressured them to give positive feedback to manipulate their schools’ progress report scores. At others, low response and high dissatisfaction rates suggest that no manipulation has successfully occurred.

In either case, the survey results matter. In addition to factoring into a school’s annual letter grade, they can provide justification when the department moves to close or overhaul schools. At a hearing about plans to “turn around” Automotive High School in March, for example, a top department official pointed to student opinion about safety at the school to argue that an overhaul was needed.

Detailed analysis of this year’s surveys, as well as school-by-school results, is available on the Department of Education’s website.

  • Larry

    Keep in mind a few things as you read these survey results.

    1.  Many high schools coach the kids into putting good things about the schools on the surveys.  The common narrative is either “they’ll close us down” or “you won’t get into good colleges” if the school receives a low grade on the progress report.

    2.  Many high-school students fill out the surveys for their parents, especially if the school has given them an incentive to turn in the completed survey.

    3.  Teachers will positively rate their own schools and the DOE positively out of fear, rather than honesty.

    In short, these surveys, which were a good idea at the time, have become meaningless.  As long as they continue to be factored into progress report scores, they will continue to be meaningless.

  • Ruthie

    Right you are!!!

  • Cyrus

    Of course half of NYC teachers do not approve of the current “S” or “U” ratings. These teachers are pretty much brand new to the system and have been brainwashed with propaganda dictating that a more “effective” ratings system is needed. I’d love to see if there is a correlation between veteran teachers who are used to and comfortable with the current rating system and all the brand new teachers who are caught up in the whole educational “reform” movement.

  • Follow the Money

    This is actually true. At the last school I worked at, one with a culture of fear, many teachers remarked to me that they were scared to put down their true thoughts, as they weren’t sure if the administration would find out and if they would be risking reprisal. Now I’m not saying there was any validity to these fears… but the fears were there.

  • Larry

    I once worked at a very similar school.  I tried to tell teachers that their surveys would be anonymous, but many weren’t convinced.

    At my current school, which I love, I’m afraid to be critical of the chancellor because I know how vindictive DOE officials are.  I’m afraid that if too many of us give them negative marks, they’ll start sending us all the difficult students. 

  • Leonie Haimson
  • http://nyceducator.com/ NYC Educator

    Current evaluations are not perfect, as nothing is. Unfortunately, the notion that adding VAM, which has been established to work nowhere, will somehow improve evaluation is outlandish. The tendency to introduce things like VAM, or even Common Core, with no testing whatsoever, is kind of amazing. In schools, we teach science. Why those who administer schools are so loath to bother with its practice is a mystery to me.

  • Mathhelper25

    I still cannot believe that we put any validity into these surveys. Has anyone ever researched how these surveys are graded? I have. Just take any statement on the survey and you will see it MATTERS how you answer. For instance if you respond strongly agree with an affirmative statement, you will earn 10 points. If you respond “agree” you will receive 6.6 points. If you respond disagree, you earn 3.3 points. And if you answer strongly disagree, you will recieve 0 points. The way you answer is weighted. Take 20 people. If 15 respond strongly agree and 5 respond agree, your score will be 9.2. Now if you reverse the response, 5 respond strongly agree and 15 respond agree, you score will be 7.5. Both scenerios have the respondants 100% in agreement. IT MATTERS HOW YOU ANSWER

  • Justaparent

    I am just a parent and have always boycotted these surveys. However, this year I did complete the one for my 9th grader’s high school because I have been so Impressed with the teachers and administration. I completed it online and in the spot where they ask for additional comments I wrote that everyone at Tweed should be fired starting with Marc Sternberg and that the DOE needs to hire a chancellor who is an educator.

  • Elaz Laz

    Yes this is true.  We coach the students as to what to write down.  We get coached by our administration as to what to write down.  We were told the surveys are not the place to air complaints.  The surveys are a huge waste  of money.

  • a teacher

    The questions about the rating system were absurd.  Of course a system with only two categories, satisfactory and unsatisfactory, doesn’t “recognize excellence”, but that doesn’t mean I want it replaced by some value-added nonsense.  Even as I answered the questions, I resented the DOE for asking them in a way that seemed designed to get as many teachers as possible to agree with their position.  If they’d asked “Do you think the current evaluation system should be replaced with a system of evaluation that relies heavily on standardized test scores?”, they would probably have seen very different results.  

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1652419195 Travis Dove

    No, my school does not bully students to put good things on the survey. This year my bubble sheet was brutal.

  • Larry

    My school got killed on that last year.  We had very high positives from parents and students, but mostly “agrees” rather than “strongly agrees” and it really hurt our scores.  I actually had to coach my wife through the surveys for our kids’ schools.  She was putting “agree” and I had to explain that she was hurting the school by doing this.

    I wonder if there are cultural elements at play here as well.  Are some demographic groups more likely to rave about their childrens’ schools?  Are parents who are overworked and less involved going to feel confident enough to strongly agree with some measurement of a schools performance, even when the school is doing a great job?

  • Thatipally Swathi

    The responses of this survey suggest that the teachers, students and parents remain sanguine about their schools, even the city people raised their expectations.

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