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	<title>Comments on: Legislators pass teacher data shield bill despite reservations</title>
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		<title>By: Follow the Money</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2012/06/21/legislators-pass-teacher-data-shield-bill-despite-reservations/comment-page-1/#comment-373798</link>
		<dc:creator>Follow the Money</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 16:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rumor has it that Mayor Bloomberg will be demanding that all NYC Principals CALL parents to inform them of teacher scores. This is not a win for teachers. Send a message that this is not okay:  tinyurl.com/stopshaming]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rumor has it that Mayor Bloomberg will be demanding that all NYC Principals CALL parents to inform them of teacher scores. This is not a win for teachers. Send a message that this is not okay:  tinyurl.com/stopshaming</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every news outlet that published the VAM scores did so with the justification that it was essential information for parents to know. Parents can get the information now, and other stakeholders can see information on a school-wide basis. I&#039;d expect the media to honor the spirit of the law, probably even the Post (seriously).  

Frankly, I&#039;m far more worried about how this is going to affect how individual schools are run. It&#039;s a potential nightmare for principals, having to deal with requests to see scores and then the parents who&#039;ll ask for their child to be placed in a particular teacher&#039;s class or NOT placed in another&#039;s. The first issue could be dealt with pretty easily, I think, by making the information available via ARIS. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every news outlet that published the VAM scores did so with the justification that it was essential information for parents to know. Parents can get the information now, and other stakeholders can see information on a school-wide basis. I&#8217;d expect the media to honor the spirit of the law, probably even the Post (seriously).  </p>
<p>Frankly, I&#8217;m far more worried about how this is going to affect how individual schools are run. It&#8217;s a potential nightmare for principals, having to deal with requests to see scores and then the parents who&#8217;ll ask for their child to be placed in a particular teacher&#8217;s class or NOT placed in another&#8217;s. The first issue could be dealt with pretty easily, I think, by making the information available via ARIS. </p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As AMNY reported: &quot;But the bill doesn&#039;t punish parents who give out the information on their own.&quot;

It&#039;s privacy with a catch. How is it teacher privacy if, at any moment after receiving the data on the teacher, the parent can give that information to the Post or other newspapers with absolutely NO penalty afforded to them?

@5786d2c8a165799285ab552fb82733c3:disqus , are you seriously going to tell me that in a school district of 1.4 million students (and with more tests coming down the pipeline equals more parents with more information), not ONE parent will violate a teacher&#039;s privacy and report a name to the Post because she or he is quite upset with the teacher&#039;s scores? It&#039;ll be the Pascale Mauclair situation again and again. Let&#039;s not even get into the formula and the numbers used to access these teachers...

I don&#039;t really have any strong feelings towards or against it, but if there&#039;s a catch and there&#039;s no punishment for violating said &quot;teacher privacy&quot;, is it truly teacher privacy? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As AMNY reported: &#8220;But the bill doesn&#8217;t punish parents who give out the information on their own.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s privacy with a catch. How is it teacher privacy if, at any moment after receiving the data on the teacher, the parent can give that information to the Post or other newspapers with absolutely NO penalty afforded to them?</p>
<p>@5786d2c8a165799285ab552fb82733c3:disqus , are you seriously going to tell me that in a school district of 1.4 million students (and with more tests coming down the pipeline equals more parents with more information), not ONE parent will violate a teacher&#8217;s privacy and report a name to the Post because she or he is quite upset with the teacher&#8217;s scores? It&#8217;ll be the Pascale Mauclair situation again and again. Let&#8217;s not even get into the formula and the numbers used to access these teachers&#8230;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really have any strong feelings towards or against it, but if there&#8217;s a catch and there&#8217;s no punishment for violating said &#8220;teacher privacy&#8221;, is it truly teacher privacy? </p>
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		<title>By: Nycdoenuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nycdoenuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 11:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Vote No! 
If having my name is newspaper is the only way to get protection from APPR, then I have to say no thanks to protection from APPR. I&#039;d rather have my privacy; it&#039;s that important to me. It&#039;s something I didn&#039;t have before and something and we both have now. That&#039;s important.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vote No!<br />
If having my name is newspaper is the only way to get protection from APPR, then I have to say no thanks to protection from APPR. I&#8217;d rather have my privacy; it&#8217;s that important to me. It&#8217;s something I didn&#8217;t have before and something and we both have now. That&#8217;s important.</p>
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		<title>By: brett</title>
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		<dc:creator>brett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 01:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Still waiting for info on how PE and other non-core-academic course instructors, as well as pre-k and K-2 teachers, as well as teachers in untested academic courses will be rated.  Also, how are those who teach repeater courses going to be fairly rated alongside honors and AP teachers?  Oh, and one more thing:  I was just wondering when we could set up a rating system for administrators, counselors and school psychologists?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still waiting for info on how PE and other non-core-academic course instructors, as well as pre-k and K-2 teachers, as well as teachers in untested academic courses will be rated.  Also, how are those who teach repeater courses going to be fairly rated alongside honors and AP teachers?  Oh, and one more thing:  I was just wondering when we could set up a rating system for administrators, counselors and school psychologists?</p>
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		<title>By: Vote NO!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vote NO!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2012 01:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This  is  NOT good   for teachers.  The  new  teacher evaluation  law  is  very  unfair.  It  will  make  it  very  easy  to  fire  teachers. Transparency  was  the only  real   protection  teachers  had  against  the  APPR.  Now  it  will  be  very  easy  to  fire  them  under  the   &quot;cloak  of  darkness.&quot;   That  is  why  so  many  politicians  voted  for  it.  They  don&#039;t  want  the  public  to  see  how  destructive  THEIR   new  evaluation  law  is.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This  is  NOT good   for teachers.  The  new  teacher evaluation  law  is  very  unfair.  It  will  make  it  very  easy  to  fire  teachers. Transparency  was  the only  real   protection  teachers  had  against  the  APPR.  Now  it  will  be  very  easy  to  fire  them  under  the   &#8220;cloak  of  darkness.&#8221;   That  is  why  so  many  politicians  voted  for  it.  They  don&#8217;t  want  the  public  to  see  how  destructive  THEIR   new  evaluation  law  is.</p>
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		<title>By: Nycdoenuts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nycdoenuts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2012 23:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[BEFORE this bill passed, teachers&#039; privacy wasn&#039;t protected. Now it is. Albany acted to protect teachers...Wow.

In fact, this is the first bill to protect teachers that I&#039;ve seen come out of Albany in a few years. That&#039;s a very cool thing ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BEFORE this bill passed, teachers&#8217; privacy wasn&#8217;t protected. Now it is. Albany acted to protect teachers&#8230;Wow.</p>
<p>In fact, this is the first bill to protect teachers that I&#8217;ve seen come out of Albany in a few years. That&#8217;s a very cool thing </p>
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