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The day after: What we learned at last night’s turnaround hearing

A teacher from Lehman High School testifies at Thursday's Panel for Educational Policy meeting. The panel voted to close and reopen Lehman.

Here are seven things you should know about last night’s Panel for Educational Policy meeting, in case you don’t have time to read the live-blog we maintained for more than six hours as the panel weighed whether to approve “turnaround” closure plans for 24 schools.

1. There’s a new form of school closure in town. Usually, when the Department of Education decides to close a school, it embarks on a multi-year process of phasing out the old school and phasing in a new school, or multiple new schools, in its place. The department has used this process well over 100 times in the last decade and has said it results in stronger student performance. This process is what the panel okayed in February, when it signed off on plans to close or shrink 23 schools.

Turnaround is a little different. It speeds up the process so phasing out and in happen at the same time, essentially overnight. It remains to be seen whether years of transition or rapid change can be judged to be more effective at boosting student achievement. The city turned to turnaround this year to make schools eligible for federal funds. But if the city determines that turnaround has advantages over phase-out, the city could use it again in the future.

2. But turnaround isn’t really as new as Mayor Bloomberg made it out to be. On the dais, Chancellor Dennis Walcott said that a panel resolution to prohibit turnarounds was inaccurate because it stated that the reform initiative was unknown in New York City. In fact, Walcott said, the city has used turnaround before –  but to a lesser extent. They also have never called their reform efforts turnaround, a term that comes from the Obama administration’s school reform vocabulary list.

What they have done is close low-performing schools and open new ones in their place that serve all of the same grades and students. When that has happened, in some elementary and middle school overhauls, the principals of the new schools have been bound to hire from the old schools’ staff in accordance with the same clause in the city’s contract with the teachers union that the city is invoking in the turnaround schools.

Walcott pointed out that one of his deputy chancellors, David Weiner, had actually overseen a turnaround school when he was the principal of the now-closed P.S. 314 in Sunset Park. Weiner closed down the school and reopened it as P.S. 503 The School of Discovery.

“I want to change the misinformation that’s saying it hasn’t been done,” Walcott told Dmytro Fedkowskyj, the Queens representative who authored the resolution. “It has been done.”

3. A hearing just isn’t the same without the UFT’s involvement. In the past, the union has chartered buses from all over the city to PEP meetings to make sure the full range of opposition is represented from teachers working in schools being affected by panel votes, and organized dissent has resulted. But this month the union not only cancelled the buses, it sat out of the panel meeting entirely, creating a scattered presence of teachers who attended on their own initiative.

Close to 100 teachers and supporters were at the union’s rally earlier in the day, but the vast majority of them went home after drying off at the union headquarters. Without a critical mass of people, the teachers who did trek to Prospect Heights sometimes found their messages lost amid the sea of organized charter school supporters who turned out to testify on co-locations up for a vote.

In fact, only a fraction of the schools on the turnaround list were represented at all, and only one representative of the seven middle schools at risk — a principal who would be replaced under turnaround — spoke out. Only about two dozen students attended and parents were even less plentiful.

The largest and most contingent at the meeting came from two charter school networks, Democracy Prep and Success Charter, who both brought buses of supporters to back co-location proposals before the panel. For a time during the public comment period, one could forget that turnaround was on the agenda at all.

4. But we haven’t heard the last from the union. Just days after Mayor Bloomberg announced the turnaround plan in January, UFT President Michael Mulgrew left little doubt about how the union planned to respond. “If the Department of Education tries to implement changing these schools from their current status, we will be taking appropriate legal action,” Mulgrew said at the time.

Last night, we saw that the union is dotting all its i’s in preparation for a lawsuit.

Vice President Leo Casey was the only union official to appear at the hearing after most stayed away to protest the panel’s pro forma votes. Why did he make the trek to Brooklyn? “I just want to make an official objection for when we sue them,” Casey said.

A union official said this morning that a lawsuit would not be filed today. The official would not say whether the union had a timeline for lodging a legal complaint.

5. Panel members aren’t just sitting silently before they vote. Critics often mock the panel’s mayoral appointees as “puppets” who do little besides keep their seat warm and wait until it’s time to vote “yes.” The mayoral panelists all voted yes in accordance with Mayor Bloomberg’s wish, doing little to curb the criticism.

But in a departure from the norm, a majority of the mayoral appointees were visibly grappling with the proposals before them.

“I know the panel members want us to engage,” said the first mayoral appointee to ask a question, Jeffrey Kay. Kay asked Deputy Chancellor Marc Sternberg to repeat some of the key points of the proposal: ”Outside of the change of the name of the school and the possible elimination of poor teachers, what else is this program going to do?”

Sternberg was patient, but he also seemed weary as he rehashed the policy points that had already occupied the panel for five hours. “I’ve already said some of this,” Sternberg began.

After hearing Sternberg’s explanation, Kay expressed disbelief that anyone would oppose turnaround and criticized Manhattan representative Patrick Sullivan for calling the plan “barbaric.” Sullivan in turn chided Kay for not understanding some of the complexities of the proposal.

“Maybe if you had actually read the plans” you’d understand it better, Sullivan said. Sullivan was one of several panel members to request the city’s application to the state for federal turnaround funding, and he had spent the days before the meeting poring over more than 800 pages of plans. The city barred the panel members from discussing the applications publicly because they are not final.

Judy Bertgraum, who was appointed earlier this year, said that in her 30 years of working in education in Queens schools, many of the schools on the turnaround list had long been struggling. ”The issue with these schools have been there” for years, she said. “I see this as an opportunity that’s never come before. This doesn’t come very often.”

Joan Correale, who became a panel member just in time for the meeting, said her daughter’s Bronx high school had undergone something like turnaround. The process led to principal turnover, but in the end the school was a better place, she says. (Correale had previously served on the panel as the appointee of the Staten Island borough president.)

And Brooklyn’s Gitte Peng said she wanted to know what the DOE’s communication plan was for making sure students and parents understood all of the changes that were about to take place over the next several months. ”One concern is the potential for confusion on the part of kids and parents in the community for what next year will bring,” she said.

6. The city thinks good teachers are worth millions of dollars. Deputy Chancellor Marc Sternberg emphasized that point after multiple panel members, including Fedkowskyj, expressed disbelief that principals would choose to jeopardize their chances of winning millions of dollars in federal funds. Schools are eligible for the funding only if they replace 50 percent of teachers who have been on staff for more than two years, a quota that DOE officials have repeatedly said principals are not required to follow.

“Our direction to them is hire the best possible staff as they can and if that means they are hiring more than 50 percent of their staff then that’s exactly what they should do,” Sternberg said again at the meeting.

Fedkowskyj challenged that talking point. He said he could envision a scenario where principals, lured by money for their schools, would justify a decision not to rehire teachers in order to reach the 50 percent benchmark.

Sternberg quickly interjected and said the money should have no bearing on hiring decisions, even if one teacher stands in the way of reaching the 50 percent quota.

“Any principal that turns down one talented educator, they are making the wrong decision,” Sternberg said.

7. Here are the schools that will undergo turnaround:

Alfred E. Smith CTE High School, Bronx
August Martin High School, Queens
Automotive High School, Brooklyn
Banana Kelly High School, Bronx
Bread & Roses Integrated Arts High School, Manhattan
Bronx High School of Business, Bronx
Flushing High School, Queens
Fordham Leadership Academy, Bronx
Herbert Lehman High School, Bronx
High School of Graphic Communication Arts, Manhattan
I.S. 339, Bronx
J.H.S. 22 Jordan L Mott, Bronx
J.H.S. 80 Mosholu Parkway, Bronx
J.H.S. 142 John Philip Sousa, Bronx
J.H.S. 166 George Gershwin, Brooklyn
John Adams High School, Queens
John Dewey High School, Brooklyn
Long Island City High School, Queens
M.S. 126 John Ericsson, Bronx
M.S 391, Bronx
Newtown High School, Queens
Richmond Hill High School, Queens
Sheepshead Bay High School, Brooklyn
William Cullen Bryant High School, Queens

  • ?????

    and next year? how many? 50-100-150—-ALL?

  • http://perdidostreetschool.blogspot.com/ reality-based educator

    When asked about Bill Thompson’s statement that Bloomberg planned to close 75 schools next year, the mayor said he had no concrete number for next year and put it somewhere between less than all the schools but higher than zero.

    LINK: http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/politics/2012/04/5722030/bloomberg-touts-school-openings-says-he-doesnt-know-yet-how-many-wi

  • Ruben

    I’m unclear on which model the city is adopting for which school if it is seeking SIG funds for all 24. Turnaround refers to a very specific plan that requires firing the principal and no fewer than 50% of staff. Are all 24 following a turnaround model or are any using the restart, transformation or closure model?

  • Vote NO!

    What  we  learned  about  last  night’s  hearing  is  that.  It  is  now ” ok”  to  close  schools  for  political  reasons.  If  it  was  really  about  educating  children,  many  of  the  schools  with  better  educational  statistics  than  Grover  Cleveland  would have  been  spared  as  well.  Unfortunately  for  those  schools,  they  didn’t  have  the  Assembly Education  Committee  chairperson  as  a  powerful  alumnus  advocating  for  them..

  • A Brooklyn Turnaround Victim

    Here’s what I learned from last nights PEP….it doesn’t matter how your school is doing, how good your stats have become and how many wonderful programs you put in place to help your population of students become successful adults. It doesn’t matter how many times you speak out, or march outside your building,or go to rallies or meetings at Marty Markowitz’s office It doesn’t matter how you work like a dog, put in the extra time. go that extra step……it doesn’t matter at all. Because at the end of the day, if they want your school to fail, they will make it happen….and if you try to change that, they get your school anyway…..

  • Proteach

    Ruben’s back.   *sigh*.  Probably curious so he can come in to the transformation schools as an “educational expert” and lead “professional development” sessions for a comfy 6-figure salary

  • Kinkoloudubs

    Almost 50% from da Bronx … hmmmmmmmmm??  Weak politicians!

  • Puzzled

    I don’t understand; who makes the decision on who gets re-hired- the old principal, or the new one?
    And what do they base their decisions on?

  • DAVE

    PUZZLED raises a good point.  How will the new principal know which teachers are worth keeping?  Also, where exactly are all the new teachers going to come from?  I foresee a bunch of teachers moving from one PLA school to another and then the rest of the new teachers to be first-year teachers fresh out of the Fellow Program. 

  • Save our school

    They will try to eliminate veteran teachers, or rate these teachers U if the principal has a chance to stay.It is called discriminate against those who have reached their maximum salaries.

  • Save our school

    They will try to eliminate veteran teachers, or rate these teachers U if the principal has a chance to stay.It is called discriminate against those who have reached their maximum salaries.  Yes, discriminate against those who started bacause they have reached their maximum salaries. Now they are made the scapegoats by the powerful people of TWEET, and the mayor’s office. Make them ATRs, then make political statements that they cost too much to maintain all these ATRs and try to convince the public if they do not get an assignment within a year they will be terminated. It is called age discrimination. That is how TWEET and the mayor act by giving the boot to good experienced teachers, the turnaound model creates chaos and instability in the system.

  • Anonymous

    Small error above. MS 126 is not in Bronx, it is in Greenpoint Brooklyn. The former principal Rosemary Ochoa is gone. Anyone know what happened to her? State JIT report said she should be replaced and basically incompetent. She was probably promoted to a higher level in DOE.

  • Filthy

    Rosemary Ochoa is now the Executive Director for Teacher Planning.  NO, wait that position belongs to Emily Sherrock who never taught or planned.

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