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Poll: Voters don’t trust city’s teacher ratings but do back release

New York City voters by and large do not trust the teacher ratings released late last month. But most wouldn’t mind if future assessments of teachers’ quality were also made public, according to a poll whose results were released this morning.

The poll, conducted by Quinnipiac University last week, asked 964 New Yorkers about teacher evaluations both in theory and in practice. It found that just 20 percent of voters said they trusted the city’s “recently released teacher evaluations” known as Teacher Data Reports, and nearly half said the results were flawed. (The ratings, which had massive margins of error, were not actually used to evaluate teachers.) But 58 percent said they approved in theory of releasing the results of teacher evaluations to the public.

The poll’s findings suggest voters simply haven’t made up their minds about the role that teacher evaluations should play even as battles over new evaluations have dominated the headlines in recent months.

Just a third of poll respondents said they thought teachers who score low on evaluations should be fired, a use that advocates of new evaluations have championed. But 54 percent said they thought top-rated teachers should be rewarded with additional pay, something Mayor Bloomberg has suggested and the UFT has opposed. And 84 percent said they thought performance should trump seniority if the city needed to lay off teachers, a policy position that Bloomberg made his priority last spring, to no avail.

The poll contained soothing news for politicians worrying how to navigate the rocky terrain of public opinion on teacher evaluations: Sixty percent of respondents said whether a candidate supports the release of teacher ratings would not affect their vote.

Plus, the ratings’ release did not exact a toll on New Yorkers’ opinion of Chancellor Dennis Walcott or Mayor Bloomberg’s handling of the city public schools. Voters’ approval of Walcott, who publicly warned that the ratings were out of date and unreliable, actually rose significantly since February, to 43 percent, the highest since his tenure began a year ago.

Bloomberg, who defended the teacher ratings’ release even when Walcott was more circumspect, also saw a slight uptick in his approval rating on education. The poll found that 32 percent of New Yorkers approve of how Bloomberg is handling the schools, up slightly since February and relatively steady over the long term.

The proportion of New Yorkers who say they have a favorable opinion of city teachers also held steady, at about 50 percent, as did the portion who said the teachers union is playing a positive role in improving schools. (The poll of 964 registered voters, conducted March 6-11, had a margin of error of 3.2 percent.)

Both city and union officials found data points to support their positions in today’s poll results.

A spokeswoman for the city, Lauren Passalacqua, pointed to Walcott’s surging approval rating and noted that “even 74 percent of union households agree that teachers should be considered based on performance and not seniority.”

UFT President Michael Mulgrew, on the other hand, issued a statement targeting the low public approval for the Teacher Data Reports. “If I were Mayor Bloomberg, I’d be asking myself why only one in five voters trusts the information my administration just released on thousands of teachers,” he said.
  • Noah E Gotbaum

    Demagogic policies notwithstanding, the big picture still getting lost: yes 35% may approve of the Mayor’s handling of the schools but almost twice that disapprove of them; even higher among parents. No private sector CEO could sustain that type of customer dissatisfaction. Plus parents choose the union over the Mayor to protect our kids’ interests by a 4 to 1 margin. Are we stupid, misinformed or just “lacking a formal education”? 

  • Larry Littlefield

    If they would report the spending on teachers, including wages, pensions and other benefits, per 20 students, NYC vs. the suburbs, Upstate, NJ and the U.S. using Census Bureau data, parents would be furious at the Major AND the union.  Which is why it doesn’t happen.

    C’mon Mayor Mike. The new data comes out in May.  The report has data by state, but the detailed data is by school district.  Work fast (or just copy my work), and you have a one page double-sided summary of comparative revenues and expenditures given to every parent and teacher in June, and send it home with the property tax bills.

    Meanwhile, this policy and this poll are ridiculous.  Bloomberg would never publicly release his employee evaluations at Bloomberg LLC.  And I’ll bet those polled would have had a difference answer if the question was about requiring their employers to release their own performance reviews.

    This will just make it easier for the politically connected to stick someone else’s kid with the worst teachers, once the Bloomberg Administration ends.  Don’t donate to your incumbent state legislature?  Your kid gets the worst ex-ATR in a class of 35, every year.  Just the way it used to be.

  • Tim

    Despite whatever poll respondents may have said
    about Bloomberg, they are in clear agreement with his stance on LIFO, releasing
    the TDRs, and merit pay.

     

    It’s possible, of course, that public opinion
    on these matters was influenced by the ads Bloomberg took out a while ago. Is
    it also possible that the disconnect between approval for Bloomberg’s policies
    and disapproval of his leadership of the schools might have been influenced by
    ads taken out by the union?

     

    Perhaps a clarifying question this poll could
    have asked would have been, “Which is more important to you: that New York City’s
    public schools are successful, or that an individual or organization receives
    credit for that success (or blame for their failure)?”

  • bee

    Public opinion was also influenced by Bloomberg’s media buddies, and the media in general. I find that true objectivity is almost nonexistent in the media these days.

  • Flerplunk

    Poll respondents are inevitably both stupid and misinformed, just as politicians and unions want them to be.  But as stupid and misinformed as we parents are, we know what the problems are with the city’s schools.  Class sizes are too high and enrichment programs are in a state of perpetual gutting.  These are financial problems and all the merit pay and TDRs in the world won’t solve them.  Nor would revoking mayoral control.  The only things that will solve these problems are (1) massive revenue increases and/or (2) massive non-classroom expenditure decreases.  

  • Teacher District-10

    I could be wrong, but I’m 95% sure that the TDR were used to evaluate and help make tenure decisions this past June for teachers who had them, meaning that the claim in the story that that they were “not actually used to evaluate teachers” is wrong. School principal’s received a report highlighting any teachers who on their TDR were in the top 5-10% and the bottom 5-10% and were told to consider it when recommending teachers for tenure.

  • Sandrine

    It would add more fuel to back educators and the unions’ resistance to TDRs had the unions along with their Democratic allies not backed the Democrat driven policy changes in evaluations (value added hocus pocus) in the first place, in those private sessions to win the Booby Prize – Race to the Top – in May 2010. And more charters, while we’re at it. They pushed the camel’s nose under the tent when they should have been vigorously defending us against its encroachment, first, last and always. They used to be against it. But after Race to a Flop became the bright shiny object to lust after, they did miraculous 180s and we had the spectacle of Mr Mulgrew Goes to Washington… to proudly sit alongside our destroyers and offer us up as a sacrifice. Let’s not focus all of the criticism on Bloomberg, although he certainly deserves his hefty share of it.

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