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City officials are short on answers at Brooklyn turnaround forum

Wearing red shirts that read "We Believe in John Dewey," a row of teachers from the South Brooklyn high school give a student's testimony a standing ovation.

Teachers and students from Brooklyn schools proposed for turnaround brought protest signs and pointed questions to a Monday night meeting with city officials — and left with few concrete answers.

As representatives of most Brooklyn schools proposed for turnaround pled their cases in front of city officials tasked with closing an extra 33 schools this year, members of the overflow audience interrupted with shout-outs, standing ovations, and, at one point, sustained chanting of “Free the 33!”

School communities have argued against the turnaround plans in tandem before, at an event in Queens and a meeting of the citywide high schools parent group. But this is the first time schools have been invited to testify in front of city officials masterminding the changes. Officials also heard for the first time from schools that have been almost completely silent about the reform plans.

Elaine Gorman, the Department of Education official overseeing turnaround, opened the meeting, organized by Brooklyn Borough President Marty Markowitz, with an overview of the proposals, which would call for each school to replace at least half its staff and to be closed and re-opened with a new name. Then representatives from the 11 Brooklyn turnaround schools were invited to give testimonies about their schools.

John Dewey High School teachers, parents, and students reprised their frequent protests by turning out in full-force; at least 100 of them sat in the audience sporting their cheerleading outfits or T-shirts in the school’s signature red, and lept into standing ovations each time a Dewey student or teacher spoke. And a half-dozen William Maxwell High School teachers, unhappy that their A grade on the city’s annual progress report would not be enough to protect their school from closure, waved poster-sized versions of the report card and the letter A when it was their turn to speak.

They were joined by a slightly more subdued group of parents and teachers from Sheepshead Bay High School, the Cobble Hill School for American Studies, and Franklin Delano Roosevelt High School, and a lone middle school student from the School for Global Studies, who spoke about the school’s co-location with a charter school.

“We’ve got to have some discrimination here, because we’re closing down 33 schools because we don’t like something that happened between our union rep and the mayor,” said Bruce Sherman, a guidance counselor at Sheesphead Bay, referring to the deadlocked city-union negotiations over teacher evaluations that the city has blamed for the turnaround plan. “The staff is not the problem.”

Sheesphead Bay High School was named a federal “restart” school in 2011, meaning it would receive millions of school improvement dollars and be run by an Educational Partnership Organization. But a legal dispute with the city and the nonprofit EPOs stalled reforms at Sheesphead and other restart schools. In December, Principal Reesa Levy unexpectedly announced her retirement—a move that worried staff and students who knew the leadership change would hold up school improvements even more.  Sherman said the new interim principal, John O’Mahoney, “has his act together,” and has kept teacher morale from dropping further since he arrived at the school earlier this year.

“We believe that restart should still go into effect,” said Thaddeus Russell Jr. a father of three Sheepshead alumni and one current student. “The reason I disagree with turnaround is because the model says only 50 percent of the staff can be re-hired. I don’t believe that’s to the benefit of any students. How can the current freshmen, sophomores, juniors, how can we continue with the academies that have been instituted, if half the staff is not there next year?”

Teachers from the Cobble Hill School for American Studies all noted that the school had made strides in recent years, earning consistent B grades on its annual report card.

Teachers from William Maxwell High School wave signs they made to show off the A they received on the city's annual school progress report.

“Can you imagine a student a senior with three straight Bs coming back to school for their senior year and being told its not good enough? That’s unthinkable,” said Jeff Slater, the teachers union representative

Patricia Gentile, a teacher from Franklin Delano Roosevelt High School, which also earned a B on its most recent progress report, told Gorman that teachers have shown their dedication to the school by logging 12- to 14-hour workdays.

“When we found out we’d be a “transformation” model school the staff said, ‘What can we do?’ They didn’t put their hands together,” she said. “We’ve been a solid, consistent school that everybody is proud of.”

Gorman said she could sympathize with the groups’ frustrations, referring to a job she once had inside a closing school. But she responded to most of their questions with a promise to follow-up over email.

As the three hour-long meeting wound down, one Dewey student asked Gorman a rare big-picture question, “Why do you think [turnaround] is the most effective way?”

“I’ve tried to answer that question most of the night,” Gorman responded. “We want to take the components of the schools that are working best; we want to reassess what is working and why; we want to take a look at what is the best match. We’re hoping that we can leverage the best of what’s going on with the most qualified teachers to make the improvements that have started to happen even quicker.”

“You didn’t really answer the question,” a girl in the audience whispered as Gorman turned to the next speaker in the line of two-dozen people waiting to ask questions.

Will parents be placed on any turnaround school personnel committees? What will happen to the “magnet” grants that some schools are already receiving? Can a new school choose not to keep on its EPO? How will students be able to ask former teachers for college and job references? Several teachers from different schools also noted that parents and teachers had been given conflicting information about their public hearing date—and asked how the problem could be fixed.

Gorman said she would have to consult with other officials and respond to these questions over email—but she did not immediately dismiss them.

“These are good questions…they are worth our exploring,” Gorman said to one parent. To another Dewey student, who suggested the turnaround would make it harder to graduate on time, she said, “It isn’t the intention to make it harder for you, but I know it feels that way.”

  • Matt

    Typo: …”unhappy that their A grade on the city’s annual progress report would not be enough to protect their school from closure, waved poster-sized versions of the report card and the letter A when it was there turn to speak.”

    First and second “their” is correct, then “there” is incorrect.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002397245457 Mary Conway-Spiegel

    This year’s theme at hearings, PEP meetings and forums is “dialogue.”  ”I want to hear what you have to say…” at Gompers, “…this is part of our dialogue…” at PS 119 and now “These are good questions…worth exploring.”
    These gatherings are essential as all testimony is recorded, becoming part of the history we’ll all look back on (hopefully) as we try to build trust between DOE policy makers and parents/students.
    These gatherings have the therapeutic effect of allowing us to speak our anger and frustration, to get it outside of ourselves because it is so painful to witness the demolition of our school communities.
    But none of this policy-that’s-so-good-for-us-we-can’t-figure-it-out-yet, is meant to include parent/teachers/communities.  The continued infantilization of parents/adults is patronizing and disrespectful. Maybe next hearing season those sitting on panel(s) should either say nothing, or tell the truth, “feel free to share your data, successes, “A” grades, etc…we’re still going to do it our way.”

  • JEFF S

    This reminds me of the time I called a bank and a person with an Indian accent answered the phone and I asked a complicated question and there was a pause as he went through his programmed responses as listed in the loarge book in front of him.  I asked him where he was from and he told me he was in India.

    These Tweedies only have answers t the questions they have been programmed to answer.  Ask them a question for which Tweed has not told them how to respond and you get I’ll have to get back to you.  This Ms. Gorman person probably has no idea of just why this program is being imposed or if she knows (as we all do it’s the Emperor’s ego which requires him to be able to tell the world when he is unable to buy a fourth term how many ikncompetent teachers he fired even though we know none of the these teachers will really be fired) she cannot tell the truth.  But at least it will give people a chance to ventilate.

    I still wonder what would happen if the UFT refused to participate in these death committees and grieved it up the gazoos.  Why isn’t the UFT threatening that?

  • Manhattan70

    What nonsense.  So Gorman thinks the DOE can determine who are the most qualified teachers based on a five minute interview by one of their death committees?  The only people the DOE is going to consider qualified are those making less than $50,000.

  • Where R the Officials?

    EVERY DAY – MORE N MORE CRAP!  PEOPLE DISGUSTED, OUTRAGED, ETC…. WHERE THE HELL IS THE MAYORAL REFORM?  WORST EDUCATIONAL MAYOR EVER!  WHERE’S THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN THE COMMUNITIES?  HIDING????

  • Transformation Teacher

    Why did Ms. Gorman even open this up to public comment/questions? It is quite clear that she never had any intentions of answering them. GS, can you guys do a follow-up in a week, and see if she actually “e-mailed” responses back to these questions?

  • Fisz

    can you imagine to fire all professionals who work more than 5 yers in law, in media,in hospitals? and students lerning from newspapers only? they showed me old movie ,logans run- nobody knew nothing

  • http://twitter.com/JimDevor Jim Devor

    I’m not sure the report captured just how well informed and rightfully proud the majority of speakers were last night.  From widely disparate venues, they effectively laid out their very real obstacles and their amazing accomplishments over and over again.  They reflected what is absolutely the best in public education – both as parents and as teachers. 

    Ms. Gorman called all this a “dialogue”  or a “conversation” that would be duly considered by the Panel for Educational before it acted.  Both the crowd (and undoubtedly she) knew better.  Too bad.  It should have been one of the finest civics lessons our “leaders’ would ever have had the honor to observe.

  • JEFF S

    btw…How many of the spineless Principals were there to stick up for their schools and their staffs?  Or were they down at Tweed working with people such as Ms. Gorman and Mr. Sternberg to help destroy their schools?  Even those who would lose their jobs under this process.  One would have to assume theese wonderful educators have been promised jobs under the new regimes.  Quite sickening.

  • Flerplunk

    re: law — you have just perfectly described how large law firms operate. 

  • Shanudge

     I can speak for John Dewey…our Principal and most of our Assistant Principals were there…to my knowledge, none of them are aware of where they will go if the Turnaround Model is put through. They have all been extremely supportive of the staff. My principal chose not to speak so the voice of the teachers and students could be heard instead.

  • Jlittle

    Cobble HS is one of the worst city highschools.  The absentee rate is staggering.  The school pads its attendanceand it is still very low.  The teachers have been discusting and deserve to go bye.  It is a wonder why your Principal would politic to close your school Jeff.

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