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Parents press for transparency on inchoate turnaround plan

Monique Lindsay, a member of the Citywide Council on High Schools and a Grady High School parent discusses the city's turnaround plan.

With the first round of school closures that the city proposed now approved by the Panel for Educational Policy, the Department of Education’s attention is turning to another set of 33 low-performing schools that it has said it would “turn around.”

The controversial plan, announced by Mayor Michael Bloomberg last month in his State of the City address, requires that the city abruptly close and then reopen each school with a new name and many new teachers. The city is set to submit its formal proposal for the turnarounds — and their accompanying federal funding — to the state today.

City officials have explained the plan at each of the schools on the list and heard concerns at a slew of recent hearings and meetings with the schools’ superintendents, who are required to hold meetings at any school proposed to be closed.

But when the Citywide Council on High Schools devoted its monthly meeting to a question-and-answer session about the model on Wednesday, parents from several high schools that would undergo turnaround said they still felt uninformed about the plan.

About 30 parents, teachers, and community members attended the meeting and several pressed Elaine Gorman, the DOE official overseeing turnaround, about the plan.

Karen Marreao, whose daughter is a senior at John Dewey High School but not on track to graduate this year, said she viewed the turnaround as the latest status update tacked onto an ever-growing list of school reform measures that have been applied to Dewey in recent years.

“My daughter’s been there for four years now, what makes you think it’s going to improve the school?” she asked. “Two or three years ago you threatened to phase us out. That turned out to be just a threat. Now you’re scaring the kids with this, you’re scaring the parents. Is this reality, or are you scaring us again?”

Marreao said the school’s administrative problems and lack of student disciplinary systems won’t be solved by the turnaround, and that an effective intervention would address those issues first.

Joe Doyle, a history teacher at Newtown High School, said turnaround would do little to address what he views as his school’s biggest impediment to scoring well on city progress measures: its open enrollment policy, which has attracted several hundred English language learners in recent years.

“Open admissions has been the kiss of death for our school,” he said. “Schools that prosper are the ones that reject students.”

Vanessa Sparks, a former member of the Community Education Council for District 28, said she felt compelled to attend the meeting after several parents from August Martin High School in Queens complained to her that turnaround would be harmful to the students. She said some parents were also concerned that eighth-graders who applied to August Martin through the high school admissions process before the turnaround was announced had been “cheated” out of the opportunity to attend a school at the top of their list. Though the turnaround schools will remain in the same building and retain 50 percent of their current staff, the city will give each school a new name and numerical code.

“We play by the rules,” Sparks said. “But the DOE changed the rules of the game midstream. There are students who are saying, ‘I don’t want to go here, this is not what I signed up for.’”

Monique Lindsay, a member of the Citywide Council on High Schools and a parent at William Grady CTE High School, which also would turnaround, echoed those concerns after department officials delivered a presentation detailing the turnaround model.

“My son is a guinea pig,” she said. “This does not give me any answers, Ms. Gorman, it really doesn’t. I want to see data that’s going to tell me if this is going to be successful.”

Gorman said the DOE would ensure that the turnaround process preserves each school’s best attributes and builds on the reform work already underway. Twenty-seven of the schools had already begun implementing two different federally prescribed overhaul strategies, known as transformation and restart.

“We’re not going to throw out the things that are actually working here,” Gorman said. “It is absolutely not true that things that were taking root and working have to be thrown away.”

  • Ronnie125

    Do you have a list for the 18 schools that are being closed?  The small schools that replace the larger ones very rarely succeed as I saw on the Franklin K. Lane Campus.

  • nuff said

    if there are things that are actually working why are they closing the school??

  • nuff said

    And when the next 33 come up just how will they be restructured fairly? The DOE will appoint 2 committee reps and the Principal and the union 2 reps to decide who stays and who goes. Why bother the vote will always be 3 to 2 since the Principal either votes their way or is fired—just like how PEP works. All the greatest fears of Mayoral control have now come true

  • Guest

    Hey, Larry, where are you?

    Shouldn’t you comment on how expensive it is to close a school and open it with a new name. If they use this plan, they must rename the school.  All the new letterhead alone is a pretty penny.

  • Awqq

    Like the parent asked, “show me the data that this works.”. It will not and the overwhemingly minority children are being used as guinea pigs. This is as obviously wrong as Cathie Black was..

  • abc

    SHOW US THE EVIDENCE THAT THIS WORKS!!! -These 33 PLA schools are holding way too much issues not because of teachers, but because of the students who come to school with already way too much issue.. These schools -students, teachers and parents- need SUPPORT (like SIG grant that’s been suspended), not 50% staff renewal! What can the newly assigned teachers from the current ATR do to make our students’ lives better?  It will cause another enormous disturbance in the school reform under the brand new name, with the same kids and the same problems but with the new teachers who will have to investigate what these problems are again, for at least another couple of years.. Stop creating more burden on existing teacher, kids and parents who are already struggling with so much of the social burden.      

  • Ginoferrariarthurave

    WooHooo.  The best news last night!!  I teach at Grace Dodge in the Bronx which is now phasinng out.  This will take 4 more years and just enough for me to stick around and do nothing because no one cares anyway.  Retiring in June of 2016 when the school officially closes.  This is such great news for me and all old timers – free 4 years.  Thanks Bloomberg!!  Awesome news man!

  • Teacher that cares…

    Was there ever a younger version of yourself that genuinely cared about teaching young people?  That teacher that cared about selflessly helping others in need?  Because that teacher is gone and what’s left is a vampire, praising the closing of a school, counting down the days to retirement …  And you think Bloomberg is the problem?

  • Jot

    Wait until groundhog day to get an answer. Sorry it passed  he went back into his den

  • NYCparent

    Surely you must realize  Ginoferriarthurave  was being facetious?  Arch?  Cynical?  Amusing?  All as in calling the mayor’s out?  It’s a natural reaction to help ease the pain of what it must feel like when you are a teacher who cares, but work for a mayor and a system that don’t.  

  • NYCparent

    Ty-po …. 
    calling the mayor out …

  • http://www.teachertantrum.com/ Teachertakeover

    33 low-performing schools? If you are planning at replacing all the teachers at everyone of the 33 schools, you better start recruiting now. This is the craziest plan I have ever heard of. I doubt the teachers are the issues at all 33 low-performing schools. How do you feel about this soon to be replaced teachers? teachertantrum.com

  • Ubayed Muhith

    As a student on Lehman high school I’ve seen the wonders of the Transformation fund we received this year. $1.8 million were directed towards the establishment of PM school and tutoring services. Most notably our new principal has done absolute wonders in strengthening the culture and moral of our school. All this in seven months. Now we are threatened to have 50% of our teachers removed. Can we at least have a chance to see how the results played out with the Transformation fund???

    This impedes our progress as a school and puts all 4000 of our kids at an uncertain future.

  • I noticed that…

    It would seem that you’re being flippant about the closing of schools.  I have only 11 months before retiring after teaching 23 years and my school is not closing.  I am fighting for my union brothers and sisters, for my colleagues, for all the students, for the parents, and for the community.  These are not the times for trying to be funny when students will be displaced and their education disrupted.  We need everyone to come out and fight the mayor, the chancellor and fight against the closing of schools.

  • michael

    It’s not about the kids. It’s about replacing expensive senior teachers with cheap beginner teachers. It’s union busting at it’s best.

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