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State ed chief calls city’s evals position, turnaround plan kosher

Breaking his silence today on New York City’s simmering labor dispute, State Education Commissioner John King sided with the city on key issues.

King said he does not want to get involved in local disputes over teacher evaluations. But he said the city’s plan to revamp dozens of low-performing schools under the federal “turnaround” model meets the state’s requirements.

“It’s an approvable model,” King said on a conference call with reporters to discuss Gov. Andrew Cuomo’s state budget proposal. “I would expect that if they submit those applications, that we would approve their application to change the model consistent with the federal model.”

The city’s plan, which Bloomberg announced in his State of the City speech last week as a way to sidestep teacher evaluations talks, would require half of all teachers to be removed from the 33 low-performing schools. King suspended federal funding to the schools last month after negotiations between the city and the United Federation of Teachers broke down.

A major issue leading to the impasse was that the UFT wanted third-party arbitrators to hear the appeals of teachers who receive low ratings under the new evaluations. The city maintains that the chancellor should make the final determination on appeals, as has been the case for years.

At a press conference responding to Cuomo’s budget proposal today, Mulgrew emphasized that sometimes principals issued low ratings for the wrong reasons and that the city had made clear in negotiations that it was unwilling to concede based on that possibility.

“The Department of Education, across the table from us, has told us they will not overturn a rating based on the substance of a rating,” Mulgrew said.

King said today that the city’s position is consistent with the state’s guidelines for the new evaluations. The guidelines dictate that appeals should ideally be decided by a district’s chancellor or superintendent and should be considered only when proper procedures were not followed in issuing an evaluation.

“We continue to believe that that is a model that districts should implement, but obviously New York City and the UFT need to work that out,” he said.

 

  • Pjg320

    So Commissioner King, closing 33 schools and replacing all the principals and half the teachers is an acceptable plan …does New York State have a recall procedure for State Commissioners of Education?  The current one is not acting in the best interests of children – just satisfying the political ambitions of a mayor and governor.

  • Vote NO!

    “King said today that the city’s position is consistent with the state’s
    guidelines for the new evaluations. The guidelines dictate that appeals
    should ideally be decided by a district’s chancellor or superintendent
    and should be considered only when proper procedures were not followed
    in issuing an evaluation.”

    Basically..Fire  at  will!    Go  ahead  college  students…,  Spend  50  to  100K  for  a college  degree  to  work  as  NYC  teacher  just  to  be  fired  3  to  5  years  later.  I’m  sure  they  will  forgive  the  rest  of  your  student  loans  even  after  you  are  terminated.

    “proper  procedures”  What  happens  if  the  evaluation  was  a  hit  job,  or  just  WRONG? 

  • JEFF S

    To repeat again, the UFT must not let the threat of the turnaround model scare them off.  If indeed the Emperor and his lackey impose this plan, the 1/2 of teachers not re-hired cannot lose their jobs under current law as long as the UFT doesn’t cave without a 3020A hearing.  These teachers are excessed which means they go into the ATR pool.  Let the ATR pool grow larger and larger.  Yes I know it might be demeaning but at least one retains his or her job and even this Emperor will not rule forever.  When he is gone, we can work on putting the school system he is so intent on destroying back together.  Now if the UFT caves, then the Emperor and his lackey will use the new evaluations to impose quotas on Principals just like they did on tenure decisions the same way they do for cops.  It doesn’t matter if half the summonses issued in this city are bogus.  Gotta issue those summonses.  Same thing as most of the Principals in this city are either Leadership duds or power mad like Ms. Reidy.  Few of this new breed of Principal has the ability to properly evaluate a teacher’s performance or the you know whats to stand up to the Emperor and his lackey.  Allow them to impose this draconian ev aluation system with no right of appeal and it won’t be the ATR teachers end up with still on the payroll, still with their health and pension benefits.  It will be on the umemployment lines forever banned from teaching in New York City again while they bring in scabs.  The UFT has just got to see this is the Emperor and his lackey’s polan to further destroy the school system.

    And if the city loses the money, no harm done.  The vast majority of that money will never find its way into the classrooms.  It will be used to help develop the assessments they will try to use to get teachers.  Not that it should matter to me; I’m long since retired.  But I feel for all the teachers who just don’t get it and hope they understand the importance of standing firm against the Emperor and his lackey.

  • Marty

    With all the crazy, incompetent, and/or vindictive principals out there (not to mention the racists, homophobes, etc), it should be the city that demands arbitration as a way to mitigate the effects of its bad hiring decisions.

  • guest

    I can’t wait until all the teachers who get fired go to court.  I know I would go to court and skip all the other steps.  I would walk out of school and right into a lawyer’s office.

  • Guest

    What are you going to do strike? No one is on your side. The public thinks tenure is ridiculous.

  • JEFF S

    Who cares what the public thinks?  Who cares what the Emperor thinks?  Who cares what Lackey Walcott thinks?  the courts will tie thing thing up until long after the Emperor has been forced to step down (unless he tries to buy himself another term to further destroy the school system).

  • I noticed that…

    Do you really think that teachers have that much money to pay for a lawyer? 

  • Joeschmoe

    “Who cares what the public thinks.” Sadly, the quote exemplifies the fundamental reason the schools must be taken away from the unions. Jeff, in case you never realized it while teaching, you worked for the public. How selfish and pitiful a statement you have made. Thank you for demonstrating the real problem here.

  • JEFF S

    Joes….you’re right.  The statement I made was too broad.  It should have been who cares what the public thinks on this particular issue?  Most of the people commenting simply don’t get it and can’t understand the terrible implicatins for kids if the Emperor and his lckey can impose a system which has no process for appealing an arbitrary rating from a poor Principal of which, unfortunately, there are many now in the system.  Do a google search on Reidy, V to see the kind of Principal I am talking about where a Court threw out a totally unjustified U rating.  But I accept your correction.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Buddy-Bronx/100001292810976 Buddy Bronx

    In regard to poor teachers in the New York City school system, I believe there is one aspect of the problem in which few are recognizing. A supervisor/manager in the NYC DOE has 3-5 years in which to determine whether a teacher belongs in the classroom, requires further development, or should be removed. Mayor Bloomberg believes fifty percent of the teachers should be let go. Interestingly, due to the high turnover rate in the profession, the Mayor and the DOE are responsibile for hiring most of the teachers presently within the system. Additionally, the DOE is given up to five years to pinpoint a “dud” in the classroom and have the teacher removed. Why is the union getting the blame for something that is actually fully in control of the Mayor and the DOE? It is they who are: 1) responsibile for the hiring; 2) responsibile for the direct supervision and training of the new employee; 3) have the power to deny tenure to the teacher up to five years. Therefore, it is possible that the problem for employees that should not be teaching lies more with the hiring, training, and supervision policies of the DOE. They need to look at the hiring process not blame the union. Can we imagine any business organization having at the minimum up to three years and, if necessary, up to five years the ability and power to determine whether to keep an employee or advise the employee to find another career, but not doing so?

  • bee

    This “public” thinks that thinking tenure is ridiculous, is ridiculous. You don’t speak for me.

  • Linda/RetiredTeacher

    Yes, this is so obvious. Teachers do not hire, grant tenure or fire. Administrators do.

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