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Seeking questions about new year for education heavyweights

The start of school in three weeks comes as initiatives to revamp instruction, assessment, and teacher evaluation ramp up.

The climate of change — and what it might mean for the city’s schools — is the subject of the “On Education” panel discussion that Manhattan Media is hosting next week. I’m moderating the panel along with Andrew Hawkins, managing editor of City Hall News.

The discussion, set for Thursday morning, is part of a series of policy breakfasts that Manhattan Media periodically holds, and the company put together the panel of government and policy leaders whose positions have helped shape the city schools.

I’m happy to report that the lineup now includes a working teacher, Stephen Lazar. A GothamSchools Community section contributor, Lazar helped organize the EDUsolidarity blogging event that attracted over 100 educators nationally to write about why they support their unions.

The other panelists are

  • Leo Casey, a UFT vice president;
  • Sydney Morris, co-founder of Educators 4 Excellence;
  • Eva Moskowitz, founder and CEO of the Success Charter Network;
  • Shael Polakow-Suransky, the DOE’s chief academic officer;
  • Bill Thompson, who is running for mayor;
  • Merryl Tisch, Board of Regents chancellor; and
  • Joseph Viteritti, a Hunter College public policy professor.

I have plenty of questions of my own to cram into the hour-and-a-half-long event. But I’m happy to take suggestions in the comments section for what I should encourage panelists to discuss.

  • Ed Watcher

    “I’m happy to report that the lineup now includes a working teacher, Stephen Lazar”. How hard was/is it to find a “working teacher” in NYC? (Please note that I am not dissing Stephen as he is a good teacher and a decent man)  Last time I checked there were around 80,000 teachers in NYC. However, it does not look like there are enough heavy hitters who are very pro teacher on this panel. Actually, from the looks of it, if you open this up for anyone to attend, ya’ better set it up European soccer style with fences separating the opposing supporters! 

  • Marat

    Phillisa, please consider asking Sydney who funds E$E.

  • Lisa Donlan

    How is it that E$E’s Sydney Morris makes it as an “education heavyweight” exactly?

    http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/sarameads_policy_notebook/2011/05/evan_stone_and_sydney_morris_co-founders_educators_for_excellence.htmlAs young teachers in the New York City Public Schools, Evan Stone and Sydney Morris struggled with a feeling that the policies and practices that affected them and their students were being developed with little teacher input or voice. So they decided to work to change that, by created Educators for Excellence to organize teachers and provide an independent voice for them in public and policy debates over education.Today, Educators for Excellence has 2,500 members, a staff of 6 former teachers, and is already putting its imprint on legislation and policy in New York State…Educators for Excellence reflects two emerging trends in education reform today. An avid runner and soccer fan, Stone, 26 was raised in Los Angeles and earned his bachelor’s degree from Yale. Morris, 25, was raised in New York and holds a bachelor’s degree from Tulane and a master’s from Pace University. Both came into the classroom through Teach for America and currently live in Manhattan.

  • Guest

    Please ask Eva Moskovitz why she has the confidence to scale up when she has such difficulty hiring and retaining qualified teachers and principals.  Apparently the leadership of her new schools is minimally experienced; I heard that one principal didn’t even graduate from college. Also I’ve heard that she is losing teachers days before the start of the school year and isn’t fully staffed.

  • Roma Giudetti

    Snore.  This is more of the same old same old here at GS. Why isn’t Leonie Hamison on this panel?  She certainly has more insight to share than Evan Stone.  Where is Julie Cavanaugh – founder of GEM.  If you guys want to get together and listen to each other talk – have fun.   Don’t expect, however, to be taken seriously by parents and teachers.

  • http://twitter.com/SoBronxSchool Bronx Teacher

    I was about to post, but you took the words out of my mouth.

  • HS Biology Teacher

    Even with Lazar, this panel seems stacked against teachers. Morris, Moskowitz, DOE’s #2, and Tisch are all pro-Bloomberg, pro-charter, and pro-business model. Even Thompson has recently advocated for charter schools. I don’t know anything about Viteritti, but it doesn’t seem like teachers have much of a fair chance here.

  • http://twitter.com/SoBronxSchool Bronx Teacher

    Will

    Never

    Happen

  • Ellen

    Please consider explaining why Diane Ravitch decided to remove herself from the panel.  Please consider explaining why no parents were considered for the panel
    Please do not tell us the construct of the panel was not yours but Manhattan Media’s

  • reality-based educator

    That’s the list you came up with for your education panel?

    Seriously?

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…

    This panel is so shilled out and weighted toward pro-charter, pro-testing, pro-corporate reform people, it just can’t be taken seriously.

    Just another example of the corporate ed deform site Gotham Schools pushing the corporate ed deform agenda of its pro-charter, pro-testing, pro-corporate reform overlords.

    I can hear the Gates Foundation money, the Walmart money and the Broad money rolling in already.

    Cha-chinnnnggggggg!!!!!!

  • reality-based educator

    That’s the list you came up with for your education panel?

    Seriously?

    Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha…

    This panel is so shilled out and weighted toward pro-charter, pro-testing, pro-corporate reform people, it just can’t be taken seriously.

    Just another example of the corporate ed deform site Gotham Schools pushing the corporate ed deform agenda of its pro-charter, pro-testing, pro-corporate reform overlords.

    I can hear the Gates Foundation money, the Walmart money and the Broad money rolling in already.

    Cha-chinnnnggggggg!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/SoBronxSchool Bronx Teacher
  • Pogue

    Is this a Roast for public education?  Where’s Foster Brooks, Don Rickles, and Ruth Buzzy?

  • http://twitter.com/SoBronxSchool Bronx Teacher

    I think you need to explain for those under 45 who Foster Brooks is.

    Rickles is hilarious. I hope he shows.

  • I noticed that…

    Phillissa ask Sydney if the extension or discontinuance of probation of her fellow E$E colleagues upholds their education policy and belief of eliminating the tenure law.

  • Pissed off parent

    What about PARENTS? You’re having a forum on education but have no parents on the panel!

  • I noticed that…

    Philissa you don’t state why those candidates were chosen to be on the panel.  BTW, Tisch is Bloomberg’s friend and neighbor.  Thompson’s ex-wife had some money issue and rumor has it that Bloomberg was very helpful.  Eva was Klein’s email side-kick and e-friend.  Since Klein did everything for Bloomberg, by association Bloomberg was also Eva’s friend.  Shael will praise Boomberg’s self-promoting accomplishments.  It would seem like Bloomberg is on the panel and any honest dialogue and education discussion will be as biased as a two-headed nickel.

  • ASTRAKA

    Replace Leo Casey with Julie Cavanaugh.
    Replace Sydney Morris with Leonie Haimson.
    Replace Bill Thomson with Michael Fiorrilo or Arthur Goldstein.
    Then you don’t need to ask us for any questions. In fact if these replacements are not made then the panel is ” stacked against teachers.”

  • http://twitter.com/BNiche B

    My main curiosity is this: for the people who have most at-stake in public education (parents and students especially, but teachers as well), why isn’t there more of a representation of those groups on the panel? 

    As costumers of this product being public education, for this panel, shouldn’t they have more of a say about policies that will directly affect their lives and speak to some of the main players of the policy game with questions and comments? It just doesn’t make much sense to me.

  • The Educated Parent

    Ask the panelists if they consider certain areas in a school building, i.e., rooms next to boiler rooms, stairwells, hall ways, closet spaces, or bathrooms converted to classrooms, in place of classrooms, unsuitable for every day instruction.

    And ask them that if two schools are sharing space in a public school building and one group of students are being taught in classrooms, situated in contiguous space, but the other school has many of its students being taught in spaces as exampled in the above question, is that a fair and comparable use of the building by the two schools?  

  • bee

    Was there a casting call for this theater of the absurd?

    PEP meeting minus parents = no voice, deja vu?

  • Ellen

    The unfortunate part of all this dialogue is that the panelists will probably never hear these questions.  I would bet my bottom dollar that the questions have already been framed, that any public q and a will be limited, that questions will be collected via index card and therefore screened, and that there will be a hurried exit at the one and a half hour mark. 

    Whoever goes, please let me know if my predictions are right or wrong.
    Thanks

  • Roma Giudetti

    Ellen, my point exactly.  This is a group of people getting together to hear each other talk. They’re not interested in what the public has to say or think.  They have an agenda and they will not be deterred; so why even bother?  

  • I noticed that…

    Philissa, please ask Moskowitz if children with special needs are to be removed from a charter school, does she feel that parents should not complain even if they got selected through her lottery system?
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5sIZlJED9s&feature=player_embedded

  • Ellen

    Rome:  you need to know your enemy in order to plan counter their actions

  • Ed Watcher

    Let’s take a look at my quick research&breakdown of folks on the panel who are or have been actual teachers in a public school:
    Stephen Lazar-Is a teacher with a number of years experience
    Leo Casey-Yes, he is a veteran educator.
    Sydney Morris-Teacher of less than 3 years
    Eva Moskowitz-Never was a teacher
    Shael Polakow-Suransky-Has taught, not known how long
    Bill Thompson-Never was a teacher
    Merryl Tisch-Unknown if she ever was a teacher
    Josephy Viteritti-Never was a teacher in a public school
    (This research was just what I could find with a quick search. Sorry If I left any info out)

    *BOTTOM LINE: If this panel is supposed to be about education, it would seem that it would help if there were more actual “educators” present. (Even if the educators are retired educators) Just imagine a panel on modern firefighting that consisted mostly of “experts” who have never held a fire hose or turned on a hydrant in their lives. This panel seems like a sham to give more power to the ed deform movement and their agenda of the privatization of public schooling.

  • Ed Watcher

    Let’s take a look at my quick research&breakdown of folks on the panel who are or have been actual teachers in a public school:
    Stephen Lazar-Is a teacher with a number of years experience
    Leo Casey-Yes, he is a veteran educator.
    Sydney Morris-Teacher of less than 3 years
    Eva Moskowitz-Never was a teacher
    Shael Polakow-Suransky-Has taught, not known how long
    Bill Thompson-Never was a teacher
    Merryl Tisch-Unknown if she ever was a teacher
    Josephy Viteritti-Never was a teacher in a public school
    (This research was just what I could find with a quick search. Sorry If I left any info out)

    *BOTTOM LINE: If this panel is supposed to be about education, it would seem that it would help if there were more actual “educators” present. (Even if the educators are retired educators) Just imagine a panel on modern firefighting that consisted mostly of “experts” who have never held a fire hose or turned on a hydrant in their lives. This panel seems like a sham to give more power to the ed deform movement and their agenda of the privatization of public schooling.

  • Ellen

    Tisch taught in a non public school
    Moskowitz was rejected by the UFT  during a political fight
    Thompson sat on the old Board of Ed
    Viteritti has been a policy wonk forever

    Ask them why only  9.4% of the students with special needs currently in 8th grade perform at or above grade level
    Ask them what’s the difference between now and 1977 for those students with special needs
    Ask them when the plan to break the cycle of failure for these students will end

    And insist they not use robust, accountability or transparency in any of their responses

  • Ellen

    and ps
    ask them why Diane Ravicth stepped down……

  • Brooklynteacher1

    Yes!!

  • Brooklynteacher1

    Yes!!

  • I noticed that…

    Here is the list of those on the panel.  If not on the list, they never taught or taught less than three years.  However, Merryl’s license is still active but she taught less than 10 years in a Yeshiva elementary school.

    SHAEL R POLAKOW-SURANSKY   CertificatesDescription Effective Begin DateEffective End Date StatusSchool District Administrator Permanent Certificate02/01/2006 IssuedSocial Studies 7-12 Provisional Certificate09/01/199708/31/2002ExpiredSocial Studies 7-12 CQ09/01/199508/31/2000ExpiredSchool Administrator/Supervisor Provisional Certificate09/01/200008/31/2005Expired 
    STEPHEN H LAZAR   CertificatesDescription Effective Begin DateEffective End Date StatusSocial Studies 7-12 Professional Certificate09/01/2009 IssuedEnglish Language Arts 7-12 Initial Certificate02/01/201001/31/2015IssuedSocial Studies 7-12 Conditional Initial09/01/200508/31/2007ExpiredSocial Studies 7-12 Initial Certificate09/01/200508/31/2010Expired 
    LEO E CASEY   CertificatesDescription Effective Begin DateEffective End Date StatusSocial Studies 7-12 Permanent Certificate09/01/1988 Issued
     
    MERRYL H TISCH   CertificatesDescription Effective Begin DateEffective End Date StatusNursery, Kindergarten & Grades 1-6 Permanent Certificate02/01/1979 Issued
     

  • Roma Giudetti

    Very true, Ellen.

  • Ms. Tollie

    Dear Ms. Cramer,

    Please ask Suransky and others, how they figure 400+ high schools works financially?  How can you have all these schools with all these principals + assistants making all this $$$.  Are the scores that much better since breaking the large high schools?  Can he actually justify this?  What is it, 4% points higher for graduation rates?
    My school will have 8 principals in it in September.  Each at at least 2 assistants if not more.  DO THE MATH!
    8 principals at approx 1.4 million
    16 assistants at approx 2.1 million

    This gives you about 3.3 million JUST FOR ADMINISTRATION at JUST ONE SCHOOL.  Multiply this by whatever.  Imagine if the PUBLIC saw the front of the Daily News and it read Do the Math?
    1 principal ran the school at 150K.  Now it’s up a million.  Let the public know already.

  • edu4ecelhaslittleexperience

    Please ask Sydney Morris if 2 years of teaching makes her an expert on education or how much money the Gates foundation gave her.  Also ask her if TFA is a 2 year teacher mill. Maybe ask her what she plans on doing after they change teacher assessment as is happening anyway. 

  • BxTeacher

    The gates foundation, disgusting. So i guess you can teach for 2 years with tfa then jump into ed policy as if you are experienced in education, JOKE.

  • Laurie Frey

    Dear Ms. Cramer,

    Please ask Ms. Moskowitz why she changed the name of her new Bronx Success Academy 3 (D7), before it even opened, to the Brooklyn Success Academy 1 and relocated it to District 14.  Even with the last-minute name change, BKSA1 is chartered to open this coming school year just as planned for BXSA3.

    Did Brooklyn gets its first Success (ha!) without a public hearing?  The charter revision was approved by the SUNY Trustees in March before the Success admissions lottery, so I assume they have students.  It seems confusing and sneaky to me.

  • CWT

    Moskowitz was actually a social studies teacher.

  • CWT

    All of the principals went to college, actually. All the staff has college degrees. Make intelligent factual statements instead of rumor mill assumptions. You know what happens when you assume…

  • Agent Orange

    Sadly, Guest is correct.  The principal at the new Brooklyn school does not have her degree and is having to quickly finish it online.  Very embarrassing considering the entire network is all about sending kids to college.  Even more frightening is the prior experience of the individual only includes two years as an assistant teacher (since bachelors degrees are required for all lead teachers in the network) and one year as a dean.

    Similarly, at one of the Harlem schools a 24 year old gentleman was appointed as principal after the beloved leader at that school took off for another charter network (taking half of her staff with her).  The new principals prior experience?  One and a half years teaching dance, 5 months teaching kindergarten (replacing a teacher that was fired mid-year) and one year as a dean of students.

  • Anonymous

    I
    think it’s ludicrous to claim that 92% of parents are satisfied with their
    children’s school when less than 50% of 3rd -8th graders
    are reading on grade level and the 4-year graduation rate from high school
    hovers around 50%.  To then back it up this point by insulting parent
    advocates seems right in line with the systemic vilification of parents and
    teachers under the current regime. 

     

    I
    think Shael’s statement points to this obsession with quantifiable measures
    that when used as evidence of fact, ring hollow and defy logic in what
    reasonable people know to be true.  Similar to Success Charter Inc.’s
    touting their test scores without offering insight to their practice of
    skimming and counseling low performing students out of their schools.

    I’ll give Shael the benefit of the doubt that he misspoke or stated what he did
    inelegantly however it seems par for the course with today’s DOE that he said
    exactly what he meant.

     

    The
    highlight of the day was a really bizarre moment. Stephan Lazar seemed to be
    lamenting that he couldn’t cheat while grading the Regents exam while sitting
    next to Merryl Tisch. 

     

    I
    think his point was valid in that teachers should have discretion to review
    their grading and make changes to their grading if needed – which the state has
    stopped with an its updated and newly implemented regents test grading security
    policy, but his example of passing a student so they could graduate as a reason
    to inflate the grade might speak to why the new strict test grading security
    policy was put in place, it’s pretty brazen to just come out and say (I’m
    paraphrasing), ‘It’s unfair of the state to have these test security policies
    so teachers can’t inflate grades when all I want to do is inflate grades.’

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