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If you have 10-20 years in the system and you have very good results on state tests, the better schools will look at you.  If you look at the time in for teachers in the better schools, it is shockingly high.  I know that once you are in a good school, people don’t leave.  But, they rarely higher new teachers. They poach, after a few years experience, from other schools.  I know in my school, results are the most important thing.

I also think that it depends on what you teach.  I’m sorry to say, but grade school teachers, Music, Art, English and Social Studies teachers are a dime a dozen.  I’m not talking good teachers, I am talking bodies.  Science is a little different because they go by subject area so some subjects don’t have a lot a teachers around.  Math teachers teach everything and there aren’t as many coming up, but math teachers are really judged on their regent results.

My school LOST ten teaching positions because of budget, but i know the two teachers they wanted to hire had more than ten years each.  Sadly, unless the person has an amazing reputation, i don’t see people with more than 20 years getting a job at the better schools.  Since I have more than 20, I would look at some of the crappier schools and pitch my experience to help with all the newish teachers.  I know my courses inside and out.  I think many of the principals do want a few experienced teachers for that reason. Some schools have the money but can’t get decent teachers, so there is a shot. Many teachers are retiring each year and most new teachers are leaving, so there will be openings, eventually.  Also, the last few years have produced some awful student teachers.  From what I’ve heard, some cooperative teachers have given them failing grades.

I wish I knew if third year math teacher found a job. 

Good luck to all the ATR’s.  I just want you to know that many teachers who have decent relationships with their AP’s and Principals have been pushing them to look at the ATR’s first.  Some seem willing, but there is no money for hiring and most are losing positions, it probably won’t be this year.

I don’t agree this will only hasten the demise of our profession. What needs to happen is a more equitable teacher salary allotment system, but no matter what they do and Charter schools are finding this out location and amenities are what attract competent teachers.

Yep, the Open Market Transfer Option sure is good for those untenured, very few years in the systems, TFA/TF teachers who will be at-risk employees, and have their probation extended two-fours times.  And the ATR deal doesn’t seems like a good deal afterall.  Now someone please explain who got royally screwed!

I saw an ATR of mine at the rally outside Bergtraum. She’s upset because she’s in limbo again thanks to the deal the UFT brokered to avert teacher lay-offs (but perhaps thousands of per-diem union members are going to get the boot). Under the deal the DoE can shuffle her around from school to school, not giving her a chance to build relationships with students or staff. It’s going to be demoralizing. 

It’s all part of the 1 – 2 – 3 punch Bloomberg and Klein dealt the UFT. Punch 1: Eliminate seniority transfer for open market (2005 Contract), Punch 2. Eliminate the right to grieve a letter in the file (also a 2005 contract giveback), and Punch 3, this explains it all, Klein changes school budgeting rules to make schools pay the higher salaries for more experienced teachers, where such costs were absorbed by the DoE before. 

WHAM! Now you gott’em. Experienced teachers are trapped because they are too expensive for schools, they can be pummeled with letters in the file they cannot grieve and then harassed to retire early or brought into license revocation hearings. A sinister plan successfully executed by the DoE. 

Look, I love teaching and think it’s the greatest job ever, but the lady in the article who has 30 years exp. and can’t find a new school – come on, grandma!  Retire already.  It is my belief that people need to develop a life outside of teaching, and when you are eligible to retire at 25 years (or 30), you need to let go and volunteer as a tutor or join the peace corp or whatever.  Those of us with 5, 10 or 15 years exp. have a better chance at making it to retirement if those who can leave with a full pension, do.

This whole new ATR system stinks and the UFT let it happen.  The UFT is being very closed mouth about the way the system will work next month.  Principals will have to interview 2 ATRs for each vacancy, but they don’t have to hire any ATR for the vacancy.  Once they interview the 2 ATRs the principal can andwill say the ATR isn’t right for the

vacancy and the just hire the person (New TF or TFA) thay they probably already interviewed for the position.  Bloomber and Walcott new this when they agreed to this new system.  It is a way to do away with the older ATRs.  Make their lives unbearable and maybe the ATRs will retire if they can or just get fed up and leave.  Where is the UFT?  The UFT agreed to this.  What did the UFT get out of it?  The UFT doesn’t care about the ATRs at all and this year they showed it.  This sytem sucks.

I’m not a teacher, but I am a member of the UFT.  I’m a school secretarywith 17 years of seniority and in 2010 I was excessed. Seeing secretaries with only a year or two at schools in my neighborhood keeping their job wasn’t fair.   Losing the seniority based transfers really stinks.  I was excessed from a school where I was the only secretary.  I did both jobs — the job of a payroll secretary and the job of a pupil accounting secretary.  There were close to 700 students at the school.  Every school is supposed to have at least one secretary — but because of budget cuts I was excessed.  The DOE allows principals to excess whoever they want — but in certain schools elementary and middle school a parent coordinator must be on staff.  The position of a parent coordinator was created a few years ago — and the DOE said at the time that the position was created, that in the time of budget cuts the parent coordinator position would be eliminated — but that doesn’t seem to be the case.  The only school that can excess a parent coordinator is a high school, but some principals would rather have a parent coordinator on staff instead of a school aide or secretary.

I happen to be one of the lucky ATRs — after a few monhs I found a job at a school where I am very happy at, but I was originally placed in a school that took over an hour of traveling and at a school where they didn’t even have a desk that I could work at.  I spent the first month at a school walking around holding my purse.  In high schools an ATR can be placed in a school in any district.  In elementary and middle school an ATR is placed at a school in their home district.  I got in contact with the UFT and they did absolutely nothing about the situation.  I would have to grieve what happened to me but I know that if I did and the principal was forced to take me back, I know I wouldn’t have been happy — putting it mildly.  To many schools are getting away with this and the UFT sits back and does nothing.  The UFT wants secretaries to be the snitches — when a school aide or someone other than a secretary does a secretary’s job, but when a secretary does snitch — I am sure that the UFT knows the secretary will pay for opening their mouth.

I really feel that all ATRs are getting the shaft, especially the more experienced (higher salary) ones.