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One firsthand account of how teachers could soon be observed

The fight over the state’s new teacher evaluations has focused on the 40 percent to be based on student test scores. But the other 60 percent, based on subjective measures like principal observations, could be just as tough.

That’s according to one teacher reporting from a school piloting the city’s stricter guidelines for classroom observations.

Commenting in our Community section yesterday, a reader posting as HS Biology Teacher said that system “seems to be designed to make it extremely easy to rate any teacher ineffective if the principal wants to.”

The DOE has drafted a rubric for rating classroom observations, but it is very tough. To be rated effective (3), you need to really hit every competency on the rubric during each full-period observation… and that is extremely difficult given the language of the rubric. For example, to be rated “effective” (3) in the category of “Using Questioning and Discussion Techniques”, every student in the room must participate in the lesson; if you do not have 100% participation, you can only be rated “developing” (2) in that category. Non-academic teachers (arts, music, physical education, etc.) teachers should be most concerned because the rubric does not really fit their disciplines. Physical education teachers in my building were rated as “ineffective” (1) in “Using Questioning and Discussion Techniques”. To earn a rating of “highly effective” (4) is near impossible.

The result: “the ratings were poor and morale was low.”

Most teachers got a rating of “Developing” (2) or just barely made “Effective” (3) with scores of 65-70 out of 100. I do not know of anyone in the pilot in my building who got “Highly Effective” (4), but I know of at least one “Ineffective” (1).

  • Burned

    Since my school was a “transformation” model school, our A.P.s used this new rubric for most classroom observations beginning this spring.  I was among the vast majority who received an overall observation rating of “effective.” 

  • I noticed that…

    Holy sh*t!  Every senior teacher will be rated ineffective especially those teachers who have level 1 students and every untenured will be rated developing so as to scare the sh*t out of them where they will pass every student in their classroom.   Eventually the year that they’re supposed to receive tenure then they’ll be rated ineffective, where the granting of tenure will be unlikely.  What I see is another way of side-stepping the TDR but still using TDR in an inconspicuous, yet career-killing manner.  DoE wins and UFT needs to explain to the members why the rank-and-file are losing their jobs.

    It’s going to get ugly come the 2011-2012 school year!

  • http://nyceducator.com/ NYC Educator

    I happen to agree student participation is important, but it’s simplistic to think it must happen all the time. And even if that were the case, there are times when it’s better to leave a kid alone. What if the kid just had a tragedy? A passionate disagreement with a classmate that you’ve just gotten under control? What if the kid is hopelessly misplaced in your class and you’ve been unable to cut through the red tape?

    The blatant idiocy of such a system is incredible. How can anyone have the remotest notion of what education is design such a thing?

  • Philip Nobile

    Dept. of Unintended Consequences: Principals are bound to choke on the new ob rubrics because it will be harder to protect their faves. In the good old days they could give out Satisfactorys  from a simple lesson plan or a 10-minute drop-in. Nevertheless, bad principals will find a way to game the reforms just as  they and teachers have already gamed NYSED’s new and ineffectual reforms of Regents scoring.

  • InsideJob

    How can principals or ap’s evaluate anyone before they get evaluated themselves? I have seen some real clueless administrators in my career. Who will provide this service, clueless superintendents? I can’t wait to witness principals trying to provide the ”model lesson.” In the past eight years none of this garbage has worked. Leave the teachers alone.

  • Vote NO!

    The  rubric  passed  by  the  Regents  in  May  establishes  the  minimum  for  “effective”  at  75,  not  65-70.  If  implemented,  the  majority  of  NYC  teachers  will  be  rated  “developing,  or  ineffective.”

  • former teacher

    what are you worried about. its not like there are a million great teachers looking to take your jobs.. we need to eliminate about ten percent of our teachers .. in some schools its more like thirty percent.. and there still are not great people to take there places… we also need to replace close to fifty percent of administrators who are worse

  • Publik Sekta Milyunair

    Everyone knows what a joke this is.  It’s all a mess and it probably will always be.  Years and years have passed and same ol same ol.  Education reformers?  Really?  Gimmie a break!  What the hell is educational reform?  Maybe we should ask Michelle Rhee huh?  She has DISAPPEARED!  LMAO!  I love all the people who look in from the outside and want to change everything.  All these dumb _______es would never last in a classroom, especially my classroom of 34 students are probably 8 different levels with 12 of them not even knowing they should be in special ed.  I’d love to see these “educational reformers” stand in front of this class for 6 hours.  They would go home with their freakin’ head spinning!!!!  What a JOKE!  Oh and by the way, F Status on another comment I read is widespread.  All the F Status “individuals” getting this money were former principals and “hooked up” people.  This system is probably the most bizarre and messed up system or organization in the United States of America.  Bloomberg gets a big thumbs down for thinking he could turn this system into a “company styled runned” organization.  FAIL!!!  Even funnier is the entire Deputy Staff who left the system high and dry after they saw what was coming.  Breaking schools up into 9 mini schools with 9 principals in 1 bldg on different schedules and different rules is HYSTERICAL.  I love the CHAOS!  No one knows what the hell is going on.  This is better for me and I love it.  I think the D.O.E. should hire more consultants, more principals (from the academy), more F Status former principals, more network leaders, more network leader supervisors, more network leader district supervisors, and more network leader c.e.o.’s.  This would really benefit our kids.  Ah ha ha ahaa hhah aha ha hahhahhahahha ahhaha aha ha haahha hahahhaha hah ahahah ahha hahahah hah ah ahhahahahhahha ha hahhahh ahahah aha hah ahhahahhahhahahahahahahhahahhahahahahhahahahahaha ah ha  ha ahha  ah ah a ahahahahha ah a ah ah ahaahah ah ahha ahhaaaa!  This is a great web site.  I work with Tweed staff too.  You should do a story of how much they charge per year on their “lunch accounts” for business related topics.  Ahha ha aha hah aha h ah ah ah ahahahha ah ahahahahah hah ahaha.  You go education reformers!  Woo hooo!!!!!!!!!!!

  • former teacher

    i am one of those dumn _____es and i did last in a classroom.. but i agree they dont get what is going on.. and you are right that the deputy’s all abandoned ship and now there is a power vacuum… feels like everyone is covering their butt… and no one at the top makes real decisions.. just covers their butts… and that no one is really in charge… missing klien … bc now it seems like a joke… with no one at the helm… principals however and schools are doing their thing… the rest of it … is just a big nameless, faceless, place.. where no one seems to own anything anymore…

  • Francis

    Dear Ms Darville
    Rubric will not do any good to us if we do not have  videotaped lessons of effective or highly effective teachings from school -based supervisors who are or will be involved in observing our educators.

    Talk and recommendations are cheap instead show me how on videotape of your effectively-rated lesson in my field/subject area as an example.Videotaped lessons of the school-based supervisor/s as well as evidence of her/his academic background in the area/s of observation will help us otherwise it will still be an exercise in futility

    Peace

    Francis

    fsmedu@msn.com

  • Francis

    FYI

    Francis has been an educator in the NYC Public School System for about 38 years.Yes I just retired from teaching social studies in the high schools and taught french early on in the system.

  • Slick

    Cheating amongst principals are RAMPID.  90% of schools are changing grades!  FACT!  Does not really matter, no one can truly prove it.  Go for it!

  • No

    They can change a student’s grade without the teacher’s permission and most don’t notify the teacher when they change it.

  • Debbiee413

    Let’s see.  In every single lesson, every single day, within a time period of, say, 45 minutes, every teacher should be asking every student a question, waiting for an answer, giving acknowledgement/acknowledgment to each student in order to “prove” he/she is a highly effective teacher.  Hmmm.  At what point in that time frame does he/she TEACH?  With 30 students, given 1.5 min of Q/A time, that would take the 45 minutes.   Also, the students that are in a particular class can be stacked against a teacher who isn’t a butt kisser to his/her “superiors”.  Honestly, it is not applicable to the teaching profession.  I just think this business model … is ridiculous.

  • Anonymous

    Putting a malapropism in all caps is not the way to make credible comments in a debate about education.

  • Pinklady

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  • Kelly944

    I don’t know any principals that change student grades Slick. As for the rubric for how teachers should be rated, I would like to see one of these people come in and teach a class of thirty students for a month and be rated every day for a month with their own rubric. Most of them would fail using their own rubric. Go Pink Lady

  • Bloomberg Suxx

    It WAS a complete joke with Klein. Yearly reorganizations, creating an anti-teacher environment, demonizing teachers in a way that rivaled Hitler’s demonization of the Jews, no-bid contracts for failed, flawed curriculum programs like Everyday Math, Reader’s Workshop and Writer’s Workshop resulted in the dumbing down of the tests in order to give the false illusion that Kleins “reforms” were working.

    And the word is “deputies,” NOT “deputy’s.”

  • Bloomberg Suxx

    It WAS a complete joke with Klein. Yearly reorganizations, creating an anti-teacher environment, demonizing teachers in a way that rivaled Hitler’s demonization of the Jews, no-bid contracts for failed, flawed curriculum programs like Everyday Math, Reader’s Workshop and Writer’s Workshop resulted in the dumbing down of the tests in order to give the false illusion that Kleins “reforms” were working.

    And the word is “deputies,” NOT “deputy’s.”

  • Bloomberg Suxx

    It WAS a complete joke with Klein. Yearly reorganizations, creating an anti-teacher environment, demonizing teachers in a way that rivaled Hitler’s demonization of the Jews, no-bid contracts for failed, flawed curriculum programs like Everyday Math, Reader’s Workshop and Writer’s Workshop resulted in the dumbing down of the tests in order to give the false illusion that Kleins “reforms” were working.

    And the word is “deputies,” NOT “deputy’s.”

  • Chgotchr

    That seems to the point of the rubric

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