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Study looks at what influences students’ high school choices

When black and Hispanic students sit down to fill out their high school application forms, they tend to prioritize schools that are better performing and more racially diverse than their middle schools, which are on average, lower-performing and more racially isolated. But a study shows that the schools that actually accept them are more like the middle schools they come from.

That’s one of the findings in a study that tries to begin to understand the mysteries behind the city’s enormously complex high school selection process. Completed by New York University Assistant Professor Sean Corcoran and Teachers College Professor Henry Levin, the study was presented at a forum on high school choice at the New School today and also appears in the book Education Reform in New York City that was published this month.

Corcoran and Levin’s findings are interesting not only as an insight into why some students make the choices they do. They also add depth to the core claim of Mayor Bloomberg’s reforms: that by expanding students’ options for where they go to school, the quality of their education will improve.

Among the study’s other findings are:

  • The average number of programs that students list — they can name up to 12 — has fallen between 2004 when the new high school admissions policy began and 2008, when the study’s most recent data was gathered. Still, about 21 percent of eighth graders list the maximum of 12 schools. About seven percent of students only write one school on their list, but 82 percent of them were matched to this choice. There are a handful of explanations for this high matching rate. One is that these students applied only to their zoned school, or a guidance counselor applied for them. Another is that they applied to continue on into ninth grade at their current school.
  • A student’s socioeconomic background, academic strength, and neighborhood all have a hand in influencing how many programs they list. Students in the Bronx and Manhattan listed more choices than their peers in Staten Island, Queens, and Brooklyn. Students who were economically and academically disadvantaged were more likely to rank more choices than their advantaged peers.
  • A student’s middle school guidance counselor also matters. Controlling for other predictive factors, Corcoran and Levin found that students submit shorter or longer lists depending on their middle school. The study says: “Counselors are ultimately responsible for submitting applications, and thus may have a high degree of influence on the number of choices.”
  • Low achieving students were more likely to rank schools with low graduation rates and largely low-income student bodies as their first choice. Students who were in the bottom third in math picked schools with an average four-year graduation rate of 66 percent and schools that were unlikely to have an A on their most recent report card.
  • White students, students from Staten Island, and students who aren’t fluent in English were more likely to rank the school closest to their home as their first choice than were black students. Only 8 percent of black students did so, whereas the citywide average was 14 percent.

Members of a panel moderated by New School Center for NYC Affairs senior editor Clara Hemphill discussed how guidance counselors and enrollment centers can affect where students apply to high school.

A doctoral candidate at New York University, Carolyn Sattin-Bajaj said that at one of the middle schools she’s spent time in, where many students come from low-income, immigrant families, guidance counselors filled out high school admission rankings for about 20 students without the students’ input. She said that using the percentage of students who get their first choice school as an indication of how well the system is working could be misleading.

“Getting your first ranked school doesn’t necessarily mean that a kid did a lot of research,” she said. “The kids didn’t turn in their applications so the guidance counselor put down their zoned school as their first choice and they got it.”

Carol Boyd, a member of the New Settlement Apartments Parent Action Committee, said she re-wrote the city’s guide to high schools to make it more accessible to parents in her Bronx neighborhood. On their own, the schools’ guidance counselors couldn’t make the process clear to students and parents, she said.

Recently named CEO of the Department of Education’s Enrollment Office Robert Sanft said that the DOE had improved communication with parents about the process. This year, it added schools’ graduation rates to the high school directory, which caused more students to apply to high performing schools. Sanft said that supply and demand remains a problem for the DOE — the isn’t creating good schools fast enough, he said.

Corcoran and Levin’s study does not include two groups of high school students: those coming from private schools and those who move to the city after the application process is over and are known as “over the counter” students.

  • Miss Eyre

    As a former 8th grade teacher who did not attend the city schools growing up (I’m from a small town out of state), I’m fascinated by the high school selection process. I frequently talked with the counselor from the middle school at which I used to work about how he counseled the kids. He was a big believer in maxing out the list at 12, often expressing frustration with students who would only fill in a few schools and then be upset when they weren’t matched to any of them.

    Now having taught both high school and middle school, though, what I’d like to know more about is how students are actually selected into the schools.

  • Miss Eyre

    As a former 8th grade teacher who did not attend the city schools growing up (I’m from a small town out of state), I’m fascinated by the high school selection process. I frequently talked with the counselor from the middle school at which I used to work about how he counseled the kids. He was a big believer in maxing out the list at 12, often expressing frustration with students who would only fill in a few schools and then be upset when they weren’t matched to any of them.

    Now having taught both high school and middle school, though, what I’d like to know more about is how students are actually selected into the schools.

  • Ms. smith

    Everyone is my neighborhood went to the local high school which was very good. It was very good because it was a community school and the real estate value was tied to how good the schools in the neighborhood were. It is still a good school today. Too bad the mayor screwed it all up

  • Anonymous

    “They also add depth to the core claim of Mayor Bloomberg’s reforms: that by expanding students’ options for where they go to school, quality of their education will improve.”

    Please fix the typos and the concept. The trivial claim that more choice is better is like claiming that better schools will improve education. It’s the way he’s been going about it that’s destructive, unethical, unlawful and divisive.

  • yes

    The HS process is a joke. informed parents (at least in brooklyn ) put down only a limited number of choices knowing you will get matched with a lousy school if you put 12 choices.
    Middle school GC in lower preforming middle schools tend to advise students (those who have parents that are just not involved or aware of the process and application ) to put 12 choices and the student will be placed in a lousy school just because they put it down.

    unfortunately,there are so many kids with attendance problems and behavior issues and uninvolved parents that they make the HS schools in general poor schools. there are so few choices for your average 8th grader,just like there were so few choices when they were 5th graders
    Unless your kid does so well they go to a Specialized HS or they have a talent and go to one of the Schools w/ auditions,you have to pray you make it into Murrow,Goldstein or Midwood. if not you have to be lucky enough to be zoned for Madison.
    the small schools (in general) are the same old crappy schools w/ the same students that made them a disaster in the first place.
    I pray for my last 2 kids to finally be done w/ the NYC schools system (One more kid to go w/ the HS process this September). God help those who are just starting out .
    You will really need it.

  • Miss Eyre

    I have to disagree with your assertion that only low-performing schools advise students to fill in all 12 choices. The middle school in which I taught was very good by any measure–test scores, discipline, parental involvement, environment–and our guidance counselor always encouraged kids to put 12 choices. I grant that there may be a difference because this was a different area of the city from what you’re discussing, but it’s misinformation to claim that only poorly-performing schools advise students in that way.

  • bklyn parent

    Re comment by “yes” : My son listed 12 schools (the last couple reluctantly) and was matched to his second choice. I know a girl who listed 3 schools on the first round and wasn’t matched to any.

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