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Schools call new discharge reporting requirements burdensome

An audit by the state comptroller found that the city might have underreported its dropout rate by reclassifying dropouts as “discharges,” or students who have moved out of the district. But new procedures actually make it extremely burdensome for schools to classify students as discharged, school officials say.

Until this year, high schools could classify a student as discharged to another state or city as long as the student provided proof of address that was confirmed by two people. That meant the student was removed from his original school’s roster without hurting its graduation rate.

But now the city requires city schools to prove that a school elsewhere requested transcripts of students they say are discharges, not dropouts. School administrators say this requirement presents a mountain of new paperwork for overworked personnel and, sometimes, real difficulty, as transfer students often encounter complications enrolling in new schools.

Students might take a long time to find a school in their new home. They might have a hard time navigating an interstate paperwork shuffle. Their new school might not require a transcript. Or they might be kept out of out-of-state schools altogether because of their disciplinary records or language needs, according to Rhonda Hugel, assistant principal at Lower East Side Preparatory High School, which serves a large Chinese immigrant population. “Who knows if these states have the resources for the kids,” she said.

The stakes are high. If schools don’t get sufficient documentation from a student’s new school within 20 days, he could be counted as a dropout, and the school’s graduation rate could fall.

“[The new rule] puts too much weight on school systems,” said Susan Vaughn, secretary at the Global Enterprise High School in the Bronx. If, as frequently occurs, the family does not provide information before leaving the state, then the school has to work with school districts in other cities and states to track down proof of enrollment. “It takes time away from the kids who are here,” Vaughn said.

Pushing back against the state comptroller’s audit, Chief Academic Officer Shael Polakow-Suransky argued that many students really do leave the city with their families and enroll in school elsewhere — and that schools can’t always know where they end up.

“When a student stops attending school, there is a legitimate, reasonable and necessary distinction to be made between truants and dropouts living within New York City, on the one hand — and students whose families have left New York City — in many cases without prior notification to the school, on the other hand,” he said.

The distinction highlights a disagreement between city and state officials over the reporting requirements, which appear in the city’s own regulations but which Polakow-Suransky called an “unfair burden on individual schools.”

While no one has yet made the claim that the dropout rate might itself be inflated, department officials emphasized that the comptroller “only audited discharges in one direction” and that some students labeled as dropouts might actually have left the city and enrolled in a school elsewhere.

“There was no review to determine whether some students coded as dropouts may have met the criteria for a non-dropout discharge code,” said Matthew Mittenthal, a DOE spokesman.

  • old teach

    An unfair burden on individual schools, a great quote by the lower half of Cathie Black. What is very unfair are the worthless diplomoas that have been issued by the Bloomberg/Klein administration. How many students have had to take remedial course work when entering colleges? The numbers reported are at an all time high. Community colleges in CUNY are forced to offer more remedial classes and students have to utilize a portion of their student loans for these non-credit courses. This is the result of the DOE’s allowing for such fraudulent tactics such as credit recovery, component retesting, on line course work, and the pressure for data that has fostered a climate of cheating, scrubbing of examinations, and in some instances changing of grades. This was orchestrated by Klein and company to allow the mayor to boast of his education record and steal the third term. Everyone in the high schools know that this to be the case.

  • Anonymous

    This is a very one-sided account. In half of the cases of students reported as discharges, there was no proper documentation. Even after giving DOE months to follow up, the DOE could provide no evidence that 15-20% of the discharges were not actually dropouts.

    There is an account in the audit of DOE claiming to the OSC that they had followed up and gone to the house of a student, and that she was were no longer living there and neighbors “claimed” she had moved to the DR. When the state comptroller’s auditors visited the house, the student was still living there and said she had tried to go to school after Xmas vacation but the school had told her she could no longer attend, since they had reported her as discharged already.

    Clearly, this shows a real problem if you are going to rely solely on the anecdotal accounts from schools or DOE, which will continue to allow schools to “push out” students in order to artificially inflate their graduation rates.

    If this is an unfair burden on schools, let the accountability office follow up with the verification process. Its staff has grown immensely over time. It’s not wise to leave it solely in the hands of schools anyway, since they have a huge incentive to report as high a graduation rate as possible for fear of closure.

    Next time, perhaps you should cover the other side of the story.

  • asevans

    With all the lip-service to accountability, and enormous amounts of money spent on DOE accountability technology, et.al, why all the sloppiness with discharge and dropout rates?

  • asevans

    With all the lip-service to accountability, and enormous amounts of money spent on DOE accountability technology, et.al, why all the sloppiness with discharge and dropout rates?

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