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Comptroller finds city underreported high school drop-outs

City school officials have underreported the number of students who dropped out of high school in the past by reclassifying some of them, according to a report released by the State Comptroller today.

The report, which comes out of an audit completed by Comptroller Tom DiNapoli’s office in January, examines a group of students that are labeled as “discharged,” meaning they have left the school system for legitimate reasons, such as moving to another state or deciding to enroll in a G.E.D. program. It finds that some of these students should actually have been labeled as drop-outs, but because of paperwork errors or school officials’ failure to follow state regulations in certain cases, they were counted as discharged.

Students who are discharged don’t count towards the city’s drop-out rate and some advocates have argued that principals can misuse the discharge code, entering students who simply dropped out in order to inflate their graduation rate artificially. Overall, the comptroller’s report found that even with the improper discharge classifications taken into account, the city’s graduation rate was “generally accurate.”

To determine whether the city’s Department of Education was improperly classifying drop-outs as discharges, auditors in the comptroller’s office examined the records of students who started high school in 2004 and should have graduated in 2008, but were discharged along the way. They randomly chose 500 of the 17,025 general education students who were discharged and 100 of the 1,923 discharged special education students.

Through interviews with principals and guidance counselors and analysis of students’ records, auditors found that 74 of the 500 (about 15 percent) discharged general education students and  should have been considered drop-outs. For special education students, 20 of 100 did not have enough documentation to prove they had been discharged.

The report notes that in the vasty majority of these cases of improperly labeled students, schools weren’t able able to find enough documentation of students’ new schools or entrance in G.E.D. programs to satisfy the State Education Department’s requirements for discharge.

But in some cases, the report says, the students had clearly dropped out. According to the report, one student who quit high school to join the military was classified as discharged. Another dropped out and was labeled as such, but then the school changed the students’ classification to discharged and couldn’t provide auditors with documentation to show why.

DOE officials responded to the report by saying that most of the students who the comptroller designated as erroneously discharged were not hidden drop-outs. Instead, they are victims of a discrepancy between the city and state’s standards for proving students have been discharged.

“We believe that, in practice, they [the state standards] impose an unfair and unwarranted burden on school principals, administrators, counselors, and outreach workers,” said Chief Academic Officer Shael Polakow Suransky in his written response to the audit.

In response to the audit, school officials challenged some of the report’s findings. One example they cited as evidence of the state’s overly strict standards was the case of a student who left her New York City high school and returned to West Africa after her father was deported. Her uncle confirmed that she had left but because her school couldn’t verify this directly with the student’s father, auditors said she should have been labeled a drop-out.

In the report, the comptroller’s office responds that the student was discharged in 2004 but it wasn’t until May of 2010 that city officials interviewed the girl’s uncle and learned that she had returned to West Africa in 2007. For the three years between when she stopped going to high school and when she left the country, the city had no documentation proving she had been in school.

Lower East Side Prep High School Principal Marth Polin said that properly discharging students is not easy. Many of her students are recent immigrants from China and it’s not unusual for them to leave the U.S. or New York City without telling anyone at her school.

“It’s very arduous,” she said of the discharge process. “The problem is they often don’t tell us they’re leaving, and then we’re held accountable for them.”

When Polin’s students do tell her where they’re going, they still have to sit for a planning interview, sign papers saying they are discharging themselves (or their parents are), and provide a plane ticket proving they are leaving the country. Once they’ve left, they have to prove they’ve enrolled in a new school, otherwise they’re classified as drop-outs.

“I don’t think it’s entirely fair because any of us that do take a lot of immigrant kids, we do take the biggest hit,” Polin said.

“It may be arduous but there’s no other way to get around to actually verify this stuff,” said Leonie Haimson, executive director of the advocacy group Class Size Matters. Two years ago, Haimson and Jennifer Jennings, an assistant professor of sociology at New York University, released a report on the city’s increasing number of discharged students.

Haimson said that because schools are graded — and sometimes closed — based on their graduation rates, principals have an incentive to use the discharge label for their students who drop out.

“It’s a combination of sloppy oversight and an accountability system which really hurts these kids the most, by having schools push them out and then lie about it,” she said.

  • Pogue

    Smoke and mirrors, house of cards, fraud and corruption. While Bloomberg, mayoral control, and the NYC DOE under his command have destroyed NYC public education for 9 dark and destructive years, teachers and real education bloggers refuted this malfeasance time and again.

    It is all nothing new and no surprise to people on the educational front lines. This mayor is educationally corrupt and has been given cover for too long,

    Get ready for no-bid crony contracts to come out next.

  • Anonymous

    Any way you look at it, a 15-20% error rate in discharge reporting is very high; for a less forgiving analysis of the results, check out my statement at http://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/2011/03/statement-on-dinapolis-discharge-rate.html

  • michael

    Bet if the Comptroller chose more then the 500 students for his report the numbers would have been even higher. Why isn’t the attorney general investigating all those bogus numbers this corrupt mayor is dishing out.

  • Dee Alpert

    The DiNapoli discharge audit provides some interesting information but, at the same time, raises even more and more serious questions.

    Unlike some prior NYS Comptroller audits, this report doesn’t list the schools audited. For example, were any NYC DOE GED programs in District 79 included? D. 79, according to recent media reports, enrolls 30,000 students in its various GED programs. That is not chump change, not by a long stretch. NYC DOE data shows that virtually no students earn GEDs. Tweed holds close virtually all Distrit 79 numbers. Under NCLB rules, students who drop out of a district-operated GED program must be counted as dropouts – in the cohort of the original regular district high school in which they enrolled. Did the Comptroller look at District 79′s schools’ records at all? We just don’t know. It may well be that students are discharged from District 79′s GED schools at far higher rates than students in “regular” schools are. This would decrease the NYC DOE’s graduation rate and boost its dropout rate even higher.

    The NYC DOE’s response to the audit is appalling. While Mayor Bloomberg and Chancellor Klein touted their increase in graduation rates as the hallmark of their accomplishments, the response to the audit basically complains that doing the hard work needed to arrive at accurate graduation, dropout and discharge rates is too much to ask NYC DOE staff to do. I have no problems with that … as long as inflated graduation rates are not then used as support for claims of improvement. City Hall and Tweed can’t have it both ways!

    It’s of special note that a higher proportion of unsupported discharges were reported in the special ed. group analyzed separately than for the non-disabled and very mildly disabled kids in regular schools’ classes. NCLB, of course, does not permit this artificial bifurcation of kids’ outcomes. The NYC DOE’s special ed. programs and services have long been known to be sub-par, at best. With ginned-up numbers, people who are just not doing their jobs, or who doing them very poorly cannot be held accountable for their failures. It’s time to stop blaming these kids for this and get serious about making the NYC DOE’s special ed. programs something other than a very, very expensive black hole.

    Heads should roll in schools Comptroller DiNapoli found to have massaged their numbers improperly. School report cards should be updated with accurate information so that kids and parents looking at high schools will not be misled. Will they? One doubts it since Tweed and City Hall benefitted from these principals’ misconduct. In other words, same old, same old.

    If we’re lucky, Comptroller Liu will take a deeper look at these numbers and hopefully in more places, to boot.

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  • I noticed that…

    Pogue is so on target. Teachers for years have been blogging that there’s corruption and malfeasance in Tweed with the Mayor. The public and certain politicians were afraid to challenge this billionaire mayor whose platform pledge was to control the school system and to surreptitiously fudge the numbers.

    Credit recovery program – scam! YABC programs – scam! No Bid Contract – double scam! Co-location of charter schools – worst scam! Closing schools based on Progress Report – shameful scam! Now coming to all schools: izone and School for One – future scam!

  • Koozy14

    This is just the tip of the iceberg. Factor in the bogus “Credit Recovery” programs that the DOE allows to run in high schools where kids get credit for not going to school. Factor in the fact that 78% of the kids who “graduate” need remedial classes when they get to college. Factor in the fact that the NYSED “dumbed down” Regents exams and manipulated the “scale score” of those exams to produce the results they wanted. Factor in the fact that the DOE budget went from $13 billion to $23 billion under this regime. When you consider it all, Mayor Bloomtard and all his croonies–local, state, and federal, have perpetuated a scam bigger than his boy Bernie Madoff could have ever dreamed of. 10 “graduating” classes in the City of New York have been ripped off, an there are 3 more to go before this phony leaves. The shame is, it will take 10 more “graduating” classes to fix the mess Mayor Bloomtard has made. Hey, at least they will have bike lanes to use.

  • Ralph

    My school is on the PLA list and we will have to go through the transformation or turnaround model come September… our school reported discharged students the honest way, so I can’t help but think we’re going to be losing our jobs because my school didn’t report drop out fraudulently.

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