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Union and city spar over public release of teachers’ scores

Calling the city’s reports on teacher effectiveness “misleading and grossly flawed,” lawyers for the teachers union argued that the city has no right to release them with teachers’ names attached.

Attorneys representing the city’s Department of Education, United Federation of Teachers, and several city news outlets made their arguments for-and-against the information’s release in New York’s Supreme Court today. Over the summer, several reporters asked for teachers’ effectiveness scores with names included under the Freedom of Information Law. Though the city initially planned to give reporters the scores, it left the decision in the court’s hands after the union sued to prevent the release of teachers’ names.

Contained in documents called Teacher Data Reports, the scores measure how a teachers’ students performed on state math and reading tests against how a model predicted their students would perform. Though the city and union have agreed to include these scores as a factor in teacher evaluations, they’ve become a lightning rod for criticism as some academics have questioned their reliability.

Arguing before Justice Cynthia Kern, a lawyer for the union said the scores with teachers’ names attached are exempt from disclosure under Freedom of Information law because they are intra-agency documents and because they have the potential to harm teachers, impinging on their right to privacy.

“These reports were to help teachers improve themselves and to help principals,” said union lawyer Charles Moerdler. “If there’s anything that’s intra-agency, it’s that. It isn’t for the purpose of providing fodder for the media.”

Senior lawyer for the city Jesse Levine argued that while the analysis and data that go into producing the reports are considered intra-agency materials and not subject to FOIL requests, the reports themselves are not.

“The statute is very clear: it does not allow us to withhold these statistics and that’s what they are,” Levine said. “They are factual, they are objective, and the numbers speak for themselves.”

Moerdler contested this point, saying that the reports may contain statistics, but the data used to create them is subjective.

“If you look at their Teacher Data Reports, it says this is the predicted score of the person, not the actual score — not a score that is something that is certain,” Moerdler said. “A prediction is not objective. It is layer upon layer of subjective information.”

Moerdler also argued that a deal made in 2008 between then-president of the United Federation of Teachers Randi Weingarten and Department of Education Deputy Chancellor Christopher Cerf that the city would keep the reports private, amounted to collective bargaining. He said that the city had bargained away its right to release the scores with names and that, in the past, when reporters had submitted FOI requests for “all” the data reports, the city had declined to release them with teachers’ names.

Now, the city’s intent to release them with names is “arbitrary and capricious,” Moerdler said.

“The city cannot bargain away the public’s right to those documents,” responded David Schulz, a lawyer representing several news outlets. He also argued that teachers, as public employees, lose their right to privacy when they take jobs working for the government.

After the hearing, Moerdler told reporters that he believes that, outside of the law, there’s a moral problem with the city’s eagerness to release teachers’ names along with their effectiveness scores.

“It’s morally wrong, it’s ethically wrong, to put out libelous material,” he said. “Particularly at this time of the year, you do not go out and hurt people,” he said, invoking the holiday spirit.

  • Fort Tryon Teacher

    The city says it has no choice, legally, but to release these documents. Their early rhetoric made it seem as if their backs were against the wall and they simply had to release them. Now, they’re paying lawyers to prove it? Why isn’t this a legal battle between the press and the union? If the city is only doing it because they have no choice, why are they fighting so vigorously now?

    This really makes no sense to me.

  • Empire of Illusion

    You wanna print my name? Anytime, as long as they audit all the principals and publish their lying, cheating, and stealing. Audit them all.

  • Mustafa

    Dear City Teacher,

    In the spirit of this holiday season and with acknowledgement of all the hard work you do, The NYC DOE would like to take a moment to ruin your holiday season.

    Layoffs may be coming, we might decide to close your school and displace you, and expect to see your name with that flawed TDR report printed in a newspaper soon.

    Thank you for all of your effort!

    Mike, Joel, and Cathie

  • SickofBloomberg

    This is not a complicated issue. The TDR’s are based on a THEORETICAL, NOT ACTUAL, prediction of what a teacher SHOULD be doing, not WHAT THEY ARE DOING. Since any statistician knows that statistics can be manipulated, that maks these “reports” a fantasy. Sadly, due to the general popuplation’s ignorance regarding Statistics and Probability (yes, a college level math course) and the media’s feeding frenzy, the truth has once again been abscured. The equivalent woul be to publish a rating of doctors based on how well patients followed their doctor’s advice. Now who wants to see that??? Or perhaps we could publish stockbroker’s individual ratings based on statistical predictions of how they should make client’s investments peform????

  • SickofBloomberg

    Corrections: makes, population’s, obscured. Sorry

  • SickofBloomberg

    “..it does not allow us to withhold these statistics and that’s what they are,” Levine said. “They are factual, they are objective, and the numbers speak for themselves.” ”

    What law school did this fool fail out of? Statistics are by their very nature and definition NOT FACTS!!!

  • Invictus

    Another way of thinking about it, if this is ever released, the complacency of the primary school and middle school ufters towards raises and other ‘bait and switch’ tricks that City Hall has been using to get the membership to approve the last contracts will be shown in retrospect as a ‘poison pill’ that the entire membership took, in order to denigrate and distort our jobs beyond what is reasonable, recognizable.  

    To think of the last raises that were provided, they were peanuts compared with the immensity that was taken away through the back channel.

    Take this as a cautionary tale, told to prove that nothing is ever sacred for the educational Deformers.  

    PS:  I agree with Empire of Illusion, print, disseminate and let it be known to the world the corruption and illegal data manipulation behind the farce that are Progress Reports and the like.

  • Teacher of LD kids

    Another big problem with releasing TDRs is the fact that only teachers who teach “major” subjects (someone help me out here, this means just English and Math, right?) have them. It seems to me that using a TDR to fire an “ineffective” teacher violates equal protection. It’s the same problem with so-called “merit pay” – if the only way to evaluate teachers involves collecting “data” on how well their students do on standardized tests, then what do you do about art teachers? music teachers? social studies teachers, if NYS does indeed go through with eliminating the eighth grade SS statewide test? speech therapists, who are licensed as classroom teachers but who do not teach any particular subject? special education teachers who work with the most delayed and impaired populations? On the one hand, firing them for incompetence can’t be justified because there’s no equivalent of a TDR for them, and on the other hand, they’ll never get “merit pay” because they’ll never have any statewide test scores to reflect how well they’re supposedly doing.

  • A Teacher

    Many teachers wouldn’t have data to publish. The data is flawed. There isn’t as much variation amoung teachers as they would make it out to be. The whole point is not releasing the data but rather the debate itself in which they can frame teachers as ineffective and wanting to cover up all the bad teaching that’s going on.

  • Tired of the Game

    Do they not consider the fact that these reports have a margin of error close to 30 up or down???

  • Teacher of LD kids

    Let’s all not lose sight of BloomKleinBlack’s TRUE purpose in this whole charade. They all know that the TDRs are statistically flawed and an inherently unfair measure of teacher effectiveness. The push to release them in spite of this is a ploy to drive a wedge between 1) parents and teachers and 2) teachers who have “good” TDRs” and teachers who have “bad” TDRs. There’s no way to know for sure if there wasn’t collusion between principals and their “younger, fresher” teachers to weight their schools’ TDRs in favor of the younger ones to bolster the arguments LIFO.

    Whatever we think of Klein, the man does possess a decent intellect. He operated under Bloombucks, however, as a misguided ideologue. The problem with Klein is that he caused real harm to teachers and kids. Bloomberg, on the other hand, is a narrow-minded turd whose “Mayor” is merely a rich spoiled brat who gets everything he wants. He wants to run the public sector the way he runs his company and probably how he runs his household – to hire and fire at will. He is intolerant of diverse opinion, which he interprets as dissent, therefore, he waves (or waives, as the case may be) his magic wand, and poof! His critics disappear. I vaguely remember when several PEP members disagreed with him and he simply fired them. Every time Bloombucks responds to criticism in the media, he resembles a tiny child throwing a tantrum, spinning around in circles, and stamping his feet.

    Cathie Black has already shown that she is very likely to be a disastrous Chancellor. She refers to children as “little people” (in stature or importance, she did not make clear), she “researches” public schools by sending email broadcasts to Hearst employees so she can interview the ones who have children in them, she gauges the public reaction to her appointment by reflecting on the opinions of her wealthy peers at cocktail parties, and she acts surprised to find out that the public schools she visited were clean.

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