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DOE’s senior educator says he’ll stay — “at least through June”

Deputy Chancellor Eric Nadelstern is raising suspicion that this school year may be his last.

Nadelstern told school network leaders at a meeting earlier this week that he plans to stay with the Department of Education “at least through June,” leading them to speculate that the DOE’s most senior educator may be planning his exit.

Nadelstern, a 39-year veteran of the city school system, had been broadly considered a potential successor to outgoing Schools Chancellor Joel Klein. After Mayor Michael Bloomberg gave that post to publishing executive Cathie Black, some noted that Nadelstern was a natural choice for the new Chief Academic Officer position created as part of the deal that sealed Black’s appointment. That position went to another of Klein’s deputies, Shael Polakow-Suransky.

After the city’s deputy chancellor for finance and technology Photeine Anagnostopoulos resigned the day after Klein announced his departure, some DOE staff speculated that other departures were on the way.

  • It’s All Camouflage

    Seems the only people getting ready to leave are the qualified ones! Very sad.

  • roma giudetti

    I wonder if Nadelstern was as shocked as the rest of us when the mayor annointed Cathie Black.

  • Teacher of LD kids

    I hope my former DOE colleagues have the courage to wear RED in protest of Bloomturd’s heavy-handed autocratic appointment of Cathie Black. The last time we were asked to wear red, to protest the budget cuts, very few people in my school building did it. The last school that I was in, most of the boneheads, TFs and veterans alike, didn’t even bother to protest the release of the TDRs. Wake up, teachers!

  • Teacher of LD kids

    Oops again. Forgot to subscribe to the feed.

  • richard mangone

    Am I missing something with this appointment and controversy? Would it have been a lot easier if the mayor who wanted a manager had appointed Cathie Black to the position of Deputy of Finance and Technology after Ms Anagnostopoulos resigned, and then placed Mr Polakow-Suransky as chancellor? This would have fulfilled both of the mayors priorities and avoided the problems. Certainly this would have been a preferred decision and would have avoided the public outcry and involvement of Mr Steiner & Company..

  • Teacher of LD kids

    Richard: I think the outcry has a lot to do with the Mayor’s total disregard for the public he serves. He has interpreted “mayoral control” as “autocracy,” and he once again chose someone to fill a position who has no relevant experience whatsoever, nor does she possess any otherwise redeeming qualities that would make her an effective Chancellor. Recently, the mayor has continually tried to force his will down the throats of New Yorkers, assuming that we will roll over, play dead, and wait for the pat on our collective tummies. The current political climate surrounding public schools is such that the total amount of blame falls on the teachers and the teachers unions. The unions were instrumental in the 1960s and 1970s in securing better and fairer working conditions for teachers. Are there bad teachers? Yes. Is it fair to focus on isolated incidents to paint a broad stroke over all teachers. No! Part of the backlash against civil service unions is unequivocally due to resentment from those in the private sector who are struggling financially during this prolonged economic downturn – the shrill demands that teachers, cops, firefighters, and sanitation workers not only accept pay cuts, but give up seniority, tenure rights (which means due process, not job for life), and pensions because “if those in the private sector have to suffer, then so do the civil service unions” is ridiculous. We serve, therefore, it stands to reason that the public serves us. This all figured into the Mayor’s unilateral decision to try to whisk Cathie Black into the public spotlight as the Chancellor-heir-apparent and expect the public and the politicians to simply swallow it. This appointment had nothing to do with what was best for the public schoolchildren of our City. This was akin to the Mayor’s declaration that McDonald’s should be banned from including toys with Happy Meals that have french fries in them, or that poor people cannot use food stamps to buy soda because it has processed sugar in it and will cause obesity. [At some point in the near distant past, food stamps were to be used solely for "necessary" foods, and they could not be used to buy any sort of snacks or the like, but that was a different argument.] The Mayor is continually extolling his ability and his absolute right to shove his agenda down our throats. He wasn’t interested in avoiding controversy – he just wants to have his way.

  • Not Laney Haimsen!

    I just wish Teacher of LD Kids would take the opportunity here on this nice Friday night to relax from what I imagine was a tough week (they’re all tough weeks when we teach)—and redirect all his/her energy to planning for his/her classes for the week ahead.

    Imagine what we could do to move the dial on student achievement if we bottled all the time and energy and spirit spent on yelling at mayoral choices and instead focused on strengthening classroom instruction.

    Come on! Stop organizing people to wear red in protest and take that energy and focus it on differentiating Reading instruction better or demanding 100% from a class or raising classroom expectations…

    But, alas, here we are, still yelling. And student achievement suffers. Jeez. No wonder where the NYC schools are where they are. At least Chancellor Klein was focused.

  • Teacher of LD kids

    To Not Lainey Haimsen: you know, I’ve never personally attacked another commenter, so BACK THE HELL OFF.

  • Not Laney Haimsen!

    Not attacking you. Show me where I attacked you. Was encouraging every commentator on this website to relax and reconsider our priorities.

    Writing thousand-word screeds on a subject that’s settled versus focusing on our classrooms…

    Hmmmm…

  • Michael M.

    NLH,

    A good number of us post under our own names because we’re PROUD of what we stand for.

    And you?

  • Patrick Q.

    Yeah! Way to tell it, “Michael M!” That goes to you, too, “Teacher of LD Kids” and “It’s All Camouflage”!

    Good to know where all the missing energy and spirit and time from focusing on making classrooms better have gone. It’s all here…on the comments of Gotham Schools.

    Sheesh.

  • Teacher

    Uh oh… seems like Patrick Q and some other Cathie Black party friends have found their way to GothamSchools.

  • Patrick Q.

    Nah, I’ve actually always been here. Been too busy building really good schools to spend time commenting or even reading these comments.

    By the looks of this warm reception, seems like I should go back to doing that!

    Good luck to all of you. Hope you find your way to the right side of history one day. When you do, look me up. We need people who are willing to work hard and think strategically and never take no for an answer—actually, people just like you, but just focused on things other than wearing red in protest and blaming the failures of classrooms on Tweed.

  • Michael M.

    PQ,

    Re “building really good schools.” I’ll take you at your word; very glad to hear it. Which ones? How so?

    But let’s review the performance of what passes for leadership at Tweed: NAEP scores flat. Achievement gap steady. Sardinification getting worse. War on teachers. Scoring system a celebration of the Emperor’s New Clothes’ inseam. Etc. And now someone with zero, zilch, nada, rien, knowledge of or expertise in education. Waiver, shmaver.

    I may not have the answers, but I don’t pretend to either. Still, I prefer not to stick my head in the sand and quietly tolerate those who SAY they do, when their track record proves they do NOT.

    Just curious why you think those of us attempting to hold our numero uno elected official and his appointees (what’s that word again?) a-c-c-o-u-n-t-a-b-l-e deserves your derision.

    Last, to my eye NO ONE here is blaming what happens in classrooms on Tweed — as you would know if you read the comments before slighting the commentERS. But it is hard to argue that the system-level issues covered so well here on GS should NOT be; or that on the flipside, Tweed is responsible for what improvements DO happen in classrooms.

  • Patrick Q.

    Thanks for the thoughtful response. I appreciate it.

    I guess my frustration comes from the fact that your Paragraph #2 doesn’t really jibe with your Paragraph #5. It’s Tweed and Cathie Black, but then it’s not (but it’s no one else).

    At my schools, flat NAEP scores are met with the teachers asking what in the world more can they do…dig into the data and let’s figure it out…come together as a grade-level team and rethink the way we differentiate Math or Reading…push into classrooms more to give peer-to-peer feedback and bring up analysis at Inquiry Groups.

    Tweed’s got nothing to do with any of that, and we’re not turning to anyone but ourselves to figure it out. In fact, Tweed introducing any measures of accountability (some of which I outlined above) have been met with hostility and outcry. 

    Bottom line for me, Michael M.: Commenters on GS (on this page and most others) are all critics. But few, if any, seem to offer any solutions, other than to wear red to protest or to call Mayor Bloomberg names. Sheesh.

    Your NAEP scores are too low? So are mine. But that’s not Cathie Black’s fault—or Eric Nadelstern’s fault, or even Joel Klein’s 9-year tenure’s fault. It’s mine and my colleagues’ faults. And we’re going to work very hard until they’re not too low for our kids to be prepped to go to college.

    That’s where our energies and minds and time are best spent. Not on the steps of Tweed, not on the comments pages of coverage of some random blog screed on GS…

    Thanks for the dialogue. Really appreciate it.

  • edwina

    To get back to the point of the original news story from which this thread emanated: Nadelstern’s possible departure is not only welcome but long overdue. Many know that the perpetual revolution theory of management change the administration has engaged in since 2002 have been directed by him. The man should have been ousted the first time he screwed up- namely ignoring state law and attempting to abolish the 32 districts without following the law to do so.
    Since then, Nadelstern has engaged in directing the policies that have resulted in propagation of false data to justify school closings as part of the privatization move of the administration. This guy has been passed over several times (including his bid to become Superintendent in Las Vegas) largely due to his personality. If you have ever met him, I need not further elaborate. Think George Costanza with power and that should suffice.
    The only problems with Nadelstern’s possible departure are that it is 7 years too late and is not accompanied by the departure of several more of the Tweedies, Suransky included.

  • Michael M.

    PQ,

    I appreciate your reply very much.

    Re 2 v 5…. Would your para 3 be helped or hindered by rising class sizes? Perhaps that’s not even Tweed-centric, but Gracie Mansion and City Hall. And disgraceful SECRET SED complicitness in diverting funding based in a decade of court battles to bring down class sizes.

    Personally, despite having spent a year as a grad school TA (applied microeconomics), I have zero expertise at how to BEST TEACH KIDS — other than I certainly can recognize inspirational teachers that I and my kids have had. (All were relatively to highly experienced, btw.) — and still re 2 v 5, NEITHER DOES TWEED. It’s school-centric, with a big variation, even under Klein’s umbrella. But that’s not to say the alternative is a centrally dictated curriculum or teaching method. (Related, Klein utterly gutted the power of the Disctrict Superintendents, replacing them with School Support Orgs — and transferring the financial load to principals as an “unfunded mandate” so he could brag about lowering overhead.)

    Note Klein’s policies focused on averaging down salaries through turnover (while legitimately raising the overall salary table), lauding rookies (some of whom MAY be great), and yet SPARING them the value-added scrutiny (how many years’ lag is in the Value-Added method? THREE?) I’ve called it the Peace Corps model, and only the vets get grilled — and derided by Klein on HuffPo as obstacles to civil rights (really).

    I would be glad to have thoughtful and reflective teachers – such as yourself – teaching my own kids. Question is: How to make the teaching corps similarly motivated and motivational? And again, doesn’t class size matter?

    Last, I’m just taking it for granted that IF that translates to inspired KIDS, tests won’t necessarily capture it, given the well-documented test prep mania, score inflation, and number of “grads” needing remedial help even at the JC level.

    I wish I had the answers, but again, I’m not an expert. As a parent activist (and CEC member), I simply challenge those who say they do have the answers – many with clear ulterior motives (i.e. union busting and privatization for profit, or authoritarian political bent).

    Question: Would YOU rather have Black (black box, but odds on to continue Bloomberg’s policies), or Klein (known commodity), or name your own?

    Long-winded and “screed” are different. I’d like to think. Cheers.

  • maria escalaera

    Edwina is right. Nadelstern is a “serial reformer” whose poor judegment doesn’t allow him to see when it’s time to stop making changes and take time out to evaluate how those changes are impacting on the “people” working in the system. He is driven by a compulsion to just keep changing the system. It’s good news that he will leave in June . Is it really true? Who knows ?

    He may convince himself that he ‘s needed now more then ever and stick around another couple of years.

  • Eliza

    Way to move the conversation forward, Edwina and Maria. Really helps us move student achievement forward.

    Cheers to you both.

  • Teacher

    So PatrickQ, you think you have the right to tell us …How we should spend our free time? What we should and shouldn’t wear? Where we should direct our energy? Sorry, but the appointment of an unqualified chancellor does effect us and our students and we have every right to speak out against it, protest against it or do whatever we deem is appropriate. Your condescending attitude makes it clear that you’re with the deformer/charter school group who thinks we should all walk lockstep and fall in line. Thank goodness there are those in NYC who still feel free to speak out againist Bloomberg and his educational policies which harm children and communities. Most of the comments on this site echo what many teachers, parents and community members are feeling. We’re not the rich elite, we’re not out to destroy public education, we’re not running charter schools by inflating our pocketbooks to the tune of three or four hundred thousand dollars while claiming we are doing it “for the children.” If those running charter schools (like Eva Moskowitz) are so “committed” and selfless then why are they receiving so much money to do so?

  • Teacher of LD kids

    Teacher’s comments, above, go for Not Lanie Haimsen, too. The prevailing attitude that public school teachers cannot be effective teachers in the classroom during school hours and post thoughtful if, yes, Michael M, somewhat lengthy, theses on an open dialogue page, tells us that that there others who believe that public school teachers are lower than the dirt beneath their shoes. Getting back to the original topic – I think that one possible pitfall, and actually one that has already emerged, of the Blacklash is that, is that much of the public is already reminiscing about the “good ol’ days” under Klein. Nadelstern is a cog in that machinery, and we should be cautious about speculating what his departure will mean for the system itself. It is doubtful that any of the senior deputy chancellors will have any influence on Black whatsoever – she has already students “little people,” and the way it was quoted, it sounds as if she thinks of ALL OF US as “little people.” Bloomberg has already asserted that there will be only ONE chancellor – unfortunately, I think that means HIM.

  • Clark Kent

    Next week we hear if my school is closing, turning around or accepting a charter, etc. Whoopiee! Way to go Nadelstern (Destroyer of High Schools). Over 360 high schools in the city, destroying neighborhoods, destroying tradition. “Staying until June” – JOKE! He aint going anywhere! Where the hell would he go. He was already passed over because he’s NO GOOD! He is the “Original Destroyer” back from his district superintendency days at Lehman HS.
    System is a MESS and its OK because the parents are CLUELESS!! Don’t worry if my school closes and the other 40+ close or transform or whatever the hell you wanna call it, don’t worry, we will ship your kid somewhere else. I have never seen such poor parental input in my life. Over 1 million students and less than 1000 are possibly active. I think there’s 3 on Gotham. .

  • Teacher of LD kids

    Good luck, Clark Kent. I worked for a time in one of those large high schools that was closed and then reopened as four smaller schools. Last I heard the City was arranging tours for potential charter school tenants within the same building. Only about 1/3 of the rooms have air conditioning, and of course, the tours were centered around those rooms. Never mind that each school kept crying about not having enough space for essential services. Of all the parents I’ve met over the years who fought the status quo, I’d say it was half and half – between the ones who did it because their and their children’s rights were being violated, and the ones who did it simply to retain as many expensive services as possible. Since we know that Children First is a lie, whether or not your school closes is, as you say, immaterial. I hope you hear good news.

  • A Teacher

    Patrick Q,

    You can always say that dissenters are just critics who aren’t doing anything (all though many of us do) but this doesn’t invalidate the criticism. You can always say that ANY group in ANY field need to work harder and be more accountable, but that doesn’t mean that any reform is good reform. Right now the reform movement is largely political and often relies on faulty data, over-emphasizing testing, and scapegoating. It also refuses to make a correlation between poverty/socio-economic ills and “failing” schools.

  • Clark Kent

    @ Teach/LD:
    Thanks for your remark. I’m sure you can relate. Honestly, nobody really cares at the school because we were set-up and framed by a superintendent who is just doing what she’s told to earn her 160K salary. She was clearly unprofessional and knew absolutely NOTHING. She was an outright FAKE who gave us a poor rating on the QR on purpose. She is a DOE ROBOT.
    I hope we get a nice 3 year phase oiut so I can relax and get a free 3 years. Thanks Ms. Superintendent for being a FAKE ROBOT. I would not have expected anything else from you. Actually we were all not surprised as you spoke, as we all noticed you were completely CLUELESS and WRONG about many of the REVIEWS you gave us – LMAO! Imagine a superintendent who does not even know what differentiation is?? What a DOPE! Perfect for a robot superintendent.

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