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		<title>By: Steroids and Bubbles &#124; Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steroids and Bubbles &#124; Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] by the sudden drop in scores.  &#8220;Everybody can have their definition of what it means,&#8221; he said. Later, he infamously added: &#8220;The last time I checked, Lady Gaga is doing fine with just a year of [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by the sudden drop in scores.  &#8220;Everybody can have their definition of what it means,&#8221; he said. Later, he infamously added: &#8220;The last time I checked, Lady Gaga is doing fine with just a year of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Kalisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kalisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 21:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why should any child have to take the test?  If some children are being given a break, then everyone should be given a break also.  I think that only certain children are being given a break.  Do we know what children will be given this BREAK?  I would like to know.  IF SOME ARE BEING GIVEN A BREAK, ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN A BREAK.  THAT WOULD BE FAIR.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should any child have to take the test?  If some children are being given a break, then everyone should be given a break also.  I think that only certain children are being given a break.  Do we know what children will be given this BREAK?  I would like to know.  IF SOME ARE BEING GIVEN A BREAK, ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN A BREAK.  THAT WOULD BE FAIR.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Hoffman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alexander Hoffman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Aug 2010 12:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If scores have been raw scores have been inflating over time, and therefore proficiency rates have been inflating over time as well, then some of the progress that schools have been making in proficiency rates -- an element of the city&#039;s accountability measures has been attributing imaging gains to the schools and their leaders.

Let me say that again: Schols have been rated in part on their success at increasing the proficiency rate of their students. But those rates have been increasing statewide because of the score inflation that has occurred over time. And so, any system that gave schools credit for increasing scores or proficiency rates is one based on (partly) imaginary gains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If scores have been raw scores have been inflating over time, and therefore proficiency rates have been inflating over time as well, then some of the progress that schools have been making in proficiency rates &#8212; an element of the city&#8217;s accountability measures has been attributing imaging gains to the schools and their leaders.</p>
<p>Let me say that again: Schols have been rated in part on their success at increasing the proficiency rate of their students. But those rates have been increasing statewide because of the score inflation that has occurred over time. And so, any system that gave schools credit for increasing scores or proficiency rates is one based on (partly) imaginary gains.</p>
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		<title>By: I noticed that...</title>
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		<dc:creator>I noticed that...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 13:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Morning Michael F.,

Thank you for your input.  It is always welcomed.  

In one form or another the majority of the members have always shown union loyalty regarding education policies and reforms.  As for my statement, I meant to bring attention to the displacement of independent thinking/reasoning from the members and the union&#039;s way of misguiding the members into thinking that the union&#039;s strategy is best.  Good ideas, suggestions and strategies don&#039;t always come from the top, but from those within the rank and file that want reforms that will benefit everyone in the school system.  I truly feel it&#039;s time for the union to listen and to take to heart the members&#039; concerns and moreover, the suggestions/strategies/reforms that are brought up at every meeting.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning Michael F.,</p>
<p>Thank you for your input.  It is always welcomed.  </p>
<p>In one form or another the majority of the members have always shown union loyalty regarding education policies and reforms.  As for my statement, I meant to bring attention to the displacement of independent thinking/reasoning from the members and the union&#8217;s way of misguiding the members into thinking that the union&#8217;s strategy is best.  Good ideas, suggestions and strategies don&#8217;t always come from the top, but from those within the rank and file that want reforms that will benefit everyone in the school system.  I truly feel it&#8217;s time for the union to listen and to take to heart the members&#8217; concerns and moreover, the suggestions/strategies/reforms that are brought up at every meeting.</p>
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		<title>By: Vote  NO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vote  NO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[NYCee,

&quot;It seems to me that it is more of a headache, cost outweighing benefit, to implement all this stuff… except for removing the “dead wood” (See: veteran teachers) from the payrolls and accelerating the model of pay cheap for newcomers… do you think that is really what this is really all about, at bottom?&quot;

ABSOLUTELY!  You  can  also  include,  breaking  the  unions,  and  an  important  weapon  to  prosecute  the  war  on  the  middle  class.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYCee,</p>
<p>&#8220;It seems to me that it is more of a headache, cost outweighing benefit, to implement all this stuff… except for removing the “dead wood” (See: veteran teachers) from the payrolls and accelerating the model of pay cheap for newcomers… do you think that is really what this is really all about, at bottom?&#8221;</p>
<p>ABSOLUTELY!  You  can  also  include,  breaking  the  unions,  and  an  important  weapon  to  prosecute  the  war  on  the  middle  class.</p>
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		<title>By: NYCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 07:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am just now getting up to speed on what happened in New York, specifically with the Mulgrew deal w/state to make teachers&#039; evals tied to students&#039; scores (I knew it happened at the time - was appalled - but not exactly HOW it happened).

Now I have to ask, can someone, anyone, please tell me how this works? I would have thought that the UFT would have had to present this HUGE change to teachers first... it has such impact on them! I am completely floored and rendered a Gaga (no connection to the the Mayor&#039;s recent comment on &quot;The Lady!&quot;) that this just got handed over by Mulgrew. It was just the union, it seems, that kept the Dems from capitulating and changing the law, so this union,  with how many members... combined with NYSUT, with how many members... has this stripped away from them with a nod from a few at the top? It seriously just doesnt compute...

As for sell outs, yeah, it&#039;s a full menu of sell outs: Obama (et al in cabinet, Duncan as pertains to ed fiefdom), those Dem legislators who were so eager to vote it in (ugh, I got a mailer from one of those clowns, crowing about his &quot;help&quot; with charters and his love of RttT - a Dem), the Dem governor, so eager to sign it (Charlie Crist, for Crist&#039;s sake - who&#039;d a known we&#039;d a done better with him?) and then ... Mulgrew. 

I am sickened. 

Btw, does anyone have a clear understanding of exactly what the RttT money can be spent on within those 4 main goals? Or not? What do you think it will be spent on if NY gets it.

It seems to me that it is more of a headache, cost outweighing benefit, to implement all this stuff... except for removing the &quot;dead wood&quot; (See: veteran teachers) from the payrolls and accelerating the model of pay cheap for newcomers... do you think that is really what this is really all about, at bottom?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am just now getting up to speed on what happened in New York, specifically with the Mulgrew deal w/state to make teachers&#8217; evals tied to students&#8217; scores (I knew it happened at the time &#8211; was appalled &#8211; but not exactly HOW it happened).</p>
<p>Now I have to ask, can someone, anyone, please tell me how this works? I would have thought that the UFT would have had to present this HUGE change to teachers first&#8230; it has such impact on them! I am completely floored and rendered a Gaga (no connection to the the Mayor&#8217;s recent comment on &#8220;The Lady!&#8221;) that this just got handed over by Mulgrew. It was just the union, it seems, that kept the Dems from capitulating and changing the law, so this union,  with how many members&#8230; combined with NYSUT, with how many members&#8230; has this stripped away from them with a nod from a few at the top? It seriously just doesnt compute&#8230;</p>
<p>As for sell outs, yeah, it&#8217;s a full menu of sell outs: Obama (et al in cabinet, Duncan as pertains to ed fiefdom), those Dem legislators who were so eager to vote it in (ugh, I got a mailer from one of those clowns, crowing about his &#8220;help&#8221; with charters and his love of RttT &#8211; a Dem), the Dem governor, so eager to sign it (Charlie Crist, for Crist&#8217;s sake &#8211; who&#8217;d a known we&#8217;d a done better with him?) and then &#8230; Mulgrew. </p>
<p>I am sickened. </p>
<p>Btw, does anyone have a clear understanding of exactly what the RttT money can be spent on within those 4 main goals? Or not? What do you think it will be spent on if NY gets it.</p>
<p>It seems to me that it is more of a headache, cost outweighing benefit, to implement all this stuff&#8230; except for removing the &#8220;dead wood&#8221; (See: veteran teachers) from the payrolls and accelerating the model of pay cheap for newcomers&#8230; do you think that is really what this is really all about, at bottom?</p>
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		<title>By: NYCee</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYCee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 05:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi

Michael... That saying has always stayed with me...  I love the bit about having the face you deserve at 50, only I hadnt caught the first part about having the face you were born with at 20. Lol. Unfortunately, I dont think there has been much change for Klein... maybe at 10 he looked a little different... but just a little.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi</p>
<p>Michael&#8230; That saying has always stayed with me&#8230;  I love the bit about having the face you deserve at 50, only I hadnt caught the first part about having the face you were born with at 20. Lol. Unfortunately, I dont think there has been much change for Klein&#8230; maybe at 10 he looked a little different&#8230; but just a little.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fiorillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Fiorillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I noticed that...

A quibble: my participation on the UFT governance committee, the minority report I co-authored and spoke for at the Delegate Assembly and my criticisms of union policy regarding mayoral control (among others) have all been based on union loyalty. 

What the Unity Caucus members on that committee and elsewhere should have set aside was their blind obedience (based on the loyalty oaths they sign as a condition of membership) to a misguided leadership. By doing so they would have reinstated their independence and personal autonomy, and served the membership far better.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that&#8230;</p>
<p>A quibble: my participation on the UFT governance committee, the minority report I co-authored and spoke for at the Delegate Assembly and my criticisms of union policy regarding mayoral control (among others) have all been based on union loyalty. </p>
<p>What the Unity Caucus members on that committee and elsewhere should have set aside was their blind obedience (based on the loyalty oaths they sign as a condition of membership) to a misguided leadership. By doing so they would have reinstated their independence and personal autonomy, and served the membership far better.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Evans</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Evans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 04:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Everyone needs to be blamed, er, held accountable except the education mayor.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone needs to be blamed, er, held accountable except the education mayor.</p>
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		<title>By: I noticed that...</title>
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		<dc:creator>I noticed that...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 03:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard, 

Michael_F is correct regarding the school governance committee.  At these meetings, he brought out good points if mayoral control was allowed again.  In hind sight, I feel that some of the members in the committe should have set aside their union loyalty and listened to members like Michael.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard, </p>
<p>Michael_F is correct regarding the school governance committee.  At these meetings, he brought out good points if mayoral control was allowed again.  In hind sight, I feel that some of the members in the committe should have set aside their union loyalty and listened to members like Michael.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fiorillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Fiorillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 02:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard Mangone,

Why should &quot;parents and political organizations&#039;&quot; trust the UFT leadership to undo the ongoing train wreck of public education in the city when it is complicit in it?

Randi Weingarten betrayed parents and her members by unilaterally ignoring the recommendations of her own governance committee and supporting the continuation of the Mayor&#039;s dictatorship of the schools. This continues to be the policy of the UFT.

Weingarten and Mulgrew have helped institutionalize all test prep all the time by agreeing to merit pay and teacher evaluations based on these fraudulent exams.

Weingarten and Mulgrew (with the exception of the brief period when he was running for election, and pretended to strike a more militant pose) boast of their &quot;collaboration&quot; with a Chancellor and Mayor who have made it painfully clear that they intend to neutralize if not destroy the union, and privatize the schools.

At the AFT convention, Weingarten had the audacity to invite the man who is almost single-handedly privatizing the urban schools to address the membership; he thanked her by attacking teacher pensions a few days later.

As of now, the only thing holding back armageddon for NYC teachers is the loyalty of Assembly Speaker Silver, since the current (and likely next) Governor and State Senate have become sympathetic to our antagonists. Should Silver&#039;s political cost-benefit analysis lead him to decide that supporting the UFT is more trouble than it&#039;s worth, then the floodgates will open.

At that point we&#039;ll really be alone, and it will be our leadership that will have put us there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard Mangone,</p>
<p>Why should &#8220;parents and political organizations&#8217;&#8221; trust the UFT leadership to undo the ongoing train wreck of public education in the city when it is complicit in it?</p>
<p>Randi Weingarten betrayed parents and her members by unilaterally ignoring the recommendations of her own governance committee and supporting the continuation of the Mayor&#8217;s dictatorship of the schools. This continues to be the policy of the UFT.</p>
<p>Weingarten and Mulgrew have helped institutionalize all test prep all the time by agreeing to merit pay and teacher evaluations based on these fraudulent exams.</p>
<p>Weingarten and Mulgrew (with the exception of the brief period when he was running for election, and pretended to strike a more militant pose) boast of their &#8220;collaboration&#8221; with a Chancellor and Mayor who have made it painfully clear that they intend to neutralize if not destroy the union, and privatize the schools.</p>
<p>At the AFT convention, Weingarten had the audacity to invite the man who is almost single-handedly privatizing the urban schools to address the membership; he thanked her by attacking teacher pensions a few days later.</p>
<p>As of now, the only thing holding back armageddon for NYC teachers is the loyalty of Assembly Speaker Silver, since the current (and likely next) Governor and State Senate have become sympathetic to our antagonists. Should Silver&#8217;s political cost-benefit analysis lead him to decide that supporting the UFT is more trouble than it&#8217;s worth, then the floodgates will open.</p>
<p>At that point we&#8217;ll really be alone, and it will be our leadership that will have put us there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t they just ask kids to find the area of triangle ABC if finding the area of a triangle is part of he curriculum.  Well in education we no longer have simple to understand curriculums ...we don&#039;t teach a subject....we have to meet standards.  And of course the other theory, and I can speak about math which I know the best, is that kids react better to &quot;real life&quot; problems, whatever that means.  So, in modern pedagogy, you tell a kid that a certain field is in the shape of a triange and the kid mowed all the grass in the field.  What is the area of the grass the kid mowed?....you see that will make the kid much more interested in the problem, or so they tell you.  Of course it also requires a kid to be able to read the problem and understand what they want and I&#039;ve seen many foreign students, very proficient in math, come in and take our new exams with all these problems in context.  (I could tell you about one of the all time examples of the idiocy of this on the very first Math B exam in 2003, but I&#039;ll leave that for a further rant).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t they just ask kids to find the area of triangle ABC if finding the area of a triangle is part of he curriculum.  Well in education we no longer have simple to understand curriculums &#8230;we don&#8217;t teach a subject&#8230;.we have to meet standards.  And of course the other theory, and I can speak about math which I know the best, is that kids react better to &#8220;real life&#8221; problems, whatever that means.  So, in modern pedagogy, you tell a kid that a certain field is in the shape of a triange and the kid mowed all the grass in the field.  What is the area of the grass the kid mowed?&#8230;.you see that will make the kid much more interested in the problem, or so they tell you.  Of course it also requires a kid to be able to read the problem and understand what they want and I&#8217;ve seen many foreign students, very proficient in math, come in and take our new exams with all these problems in context.  (I could tell you about one of the all time examples of the idiocy of this on the very first Math B exam in 2003, but I&#8217;ll leave that for a further rant).</p>
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		<title>By: richard mangone</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mangone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa- I agree and in no way do I put the emphasis on the parents, they are also victimized by this scandalous fraud disguised as education reform. I have been an active Chapter leader and unionist for 28 years and yes the unions have to organize with parents and political organizations. If the parents who believed in the numbers now feel betrayed, then they will become more active which will infuse the other parties needed to fight this battle. New York City is the fulcrum on which public education will be either taken back from the reformers or gobbled up by them. Parents are vital to maintaining the public in public education. We need more folks like you for sure.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa- I agree and in no way do I put the emphasis on the parents, they are also victimized by this scandalous fraud disguised as education reform. I have been an active Chapter leader and unionist for 28 years and yes the unions have to organize with parents and political organizations. If the parents who believed in the numbers now feel betrayed, then they will become more active which will infuse the other parties needed to fight this battle. New York City is the fulcrum on which public education will be either taken back from the reformers or gobbled up by them. Parents are vital to maintaining the public in public education. We need more folks like you for sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Fro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:00:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Since we are talking about testing, have any of you fellow teachers read the tests?  I mean actually dissected them?  When did we get to a point in testing where you cannot simply ask &quot;What was the main idea of the story?&quot; or &quot;what is the area of this triangle?&quot; ?  These tests have become too difficult in and of themselves.  Just ask the children for the knowledge they should have learned based on the curriculum appropriate for that subject and grade level.  Why all the test-deception and making question more difficult?  Kids in grade X should learn a,b, and c and then test them on a, b, and c.  It seems the State pays test companies not to come up with real questions, but to be as tricky as they can.  Ask a straightforward question.  Then, more children will succeed, less time will be needed on test prep, and remediation would be easy since it would be very evident what particular topic the child did not retain.  Just my 2 cents...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Since we are talking about testing, have any of you fellow teachers read the tests?  I mean actually dissected them?  When did we get to a point in testing where you cannot simply ask &#8220;What was the main idea of the story?&#8221; or &#8220;what is the area of this triangle?&#8221; ?  These tests have become too difficult in and of themselves.  Just ask the children for the knowledge they should have learned based on the curriculum appropriate for that subject and grade level.  Why all the test-deception and making question more difficult?  Kids in grade X should learn a,b, and c and then test them on a, b, and c.  It seems the State pays test companies not to come up with real questions, but to be as tricky as they can.  Ask a straightforward question.  Then, more children will succeed, less time will be needed on test prep, and remediation would be easy since it would be very evident what particular topic the child did not retain.  Just my 2 cents&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Vote  NO</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vote  NO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa,

The  only way  teachers  will  become  radicalized  is  when  they  start  losing  their  jobs.
Once  these  new  &quot;reform&quot;  inspired  evaluations  result  in  mass  firings  of  public  schools  teachers,  then  teachers  will  become  very  active  politically.  Look  at  Washington  DC.  The  union  president  down  there  is  refusing  to  hold  elections.  I&#039;m  sure  if  elections  were  held,  he  would  lose,  since  the  new  contract   is  costing  so  many  teachers  their  jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa,</p>
<p>The  only way  teachers  will  become  radicalized  is  when  they  start  losing  their  jobs.<br />
Once  these  new  &#8220;reform&#8221;  inspired  evaluations  result  in  mass  firings  of  public  schools  teachers,  then  teachers  will  become  very  active  politically.  Look  at  Washington  DC.  The  union  president  down  there  is  refusing  to  hold  elections.  I&#8217;m  sure  if  elections  were  held,  he  would  lose,  since  the  new  contract   is  costing  so  many  teachers  their  jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Bronx Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bronx Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[QT-

Klein&#039;s face is not one of constipation. Rather it is a look of knowing that the jig is up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QT-</p>
<p>Klein&#8217;s face is not one of constipation. Rather it is a look of knowing that the jig is up.</p>
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		<title>By: bunzi</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunzi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[just compared the scale score to the raw score for third graders and I am outraged. How can a child who scored 28/33 receive a level 2? Is 85% considered failing? Check out the following:

Grade 3
Raw score (Reading)

1-22 correct = Level 1
23-28 correct= Level 2
29-31 correct = Level 3
32-33 correct = Level 4

Grade 3 ( Math)
1-23 correct= level1
24-33 correct = Level 2
34-37 correct = Level 3
38-30 correct = Level 4]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just compared the scale score to the raw score for third graders and I am outraged. How can a child who scored 28/33 receive a level 2? Is 85% considered failing? Check out the following:</p>
<p>Grade 3<br />
Raw score (Reading)</p>
<p>1-22 correct = Level 1<br />
23-28 correct= Level 2<br />
29-31 correct = Level 3<br />
32-33 correct = Level 4</p>
<p>Grade 3 ( Math)<br />
1-23 correct= level1<br />
24-33 correct = Level 2<br />
34-37 correct = Level 3<br />
38-30 correct = Level 4</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Donlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lisa Donlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard,
 I agree for most part with your analysis- but why are you putting the burden of revolt on the parents? 
 

Can we honestly expect any serious overthrow of the status quo without marshaling the force of labor?


Hello- where are the teachers, the principals, the custodians and service workers?

Parents - sure but they are not an easily organized force, given their disparate demographics, needs, perspectives, etc.

How about the union members push their union leadership to stand up and make a difference, speak truth to power and hold the Bloomberg Klien autocracy accountable!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,<br />
 I agree for most part with your analysis- but why are you putting the burden of revolt on the parents? <br />
 </p>
<p>Can we honestly expect any serious overthrow of the status quo without marshaling the force of labor?</p>
<p>Hello- where are the teachers, the principals, the custodians and service workers?</p>
<p>Parents &#8211; sure but they are not an easily organized force, given their disparate demographics, needs, perspectives, etc.</p>
<p>How about the union members push their union leadership to stand up and make a difference, speak truth to power and hold the Bloomberg Klien autocracy accountable!</p>
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		<title>By: richard mangone</title>
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		<dc:creator>richard mangone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only question now is if this news will finally awaken the parents of school children to the point where it translates into a political rebellion against the policies of the administration. Even billions of dollars cannot disguise the failure of Mayor Bloomberg and Chancellor Klein&#039;s educational policies. Let us not forget another piece of this equation the amount of money spent on education under this administration over the past eight plus years. How can the billions added to the budget be justified by the dismal performance on the state tests? &quot;In God we trust...everyone else bring data&quot;. Remember who made this quote?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only question now is if this news will finally awaken the parents of school children to the point where it translates into a political rebellion against the policies of the administration. Even billions of dollars cannot disguise the failure of Mayor Bloomberg and Chancellor Klein&#8217;s educational policies. Let us not forget another piece of this equation the amount of money spent on education under this administration over the past eight plus years. How can the billions added to the budget be justified by the dismal performance on the state tests? &#8220;In God we trust&#8230;everyone else bring data&#8221;. Remember who made this quote?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff S</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The thing is the colleges have refused to play this game...CUNY gives them a placement exam (although I&#039;m not sure but I think part of their placement is dependent on Regents exams and at least both the Geometry and Algebra 2 &amp; Trig Regents, although they scale the scores, nowhere near the fraud on the Algebra regents.  In any event, they have to waste their time taking remedial courses in CUNY.....they just keep failing (although in some cases subtle pressure is brought on part time faculty to not give true grades although it is nowhere near as bad as in the high schools)......it&#039;s incredible what you see sometimes...I am teaching a course this summer at one branch of CUNY, something sort of equivalent to Algebra II and Trigonometry....I have students who don&#039;t understand 6% is .06 (they think it&#039;s .6)...today we were working on a trig problem and got down to getting the right answer by carrying out the following computation:  (-4/5)(-5/13) - (3/5)(12/13)   and sad to report many of the students (and remember they have supposedly passed either the Integrated Algebra regents or the Math A regents) didn&#039;t have a clue (this is essentially 4th grade arithmetic).  And then when they end up not passing the course, it looks like there&#039;s something wrong with the instruction (or the instructor namely me).  I could go on with the things I see but I think you can get the message.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The thing is the colleges have refused to play this game&#8230;CUNY gives them a placement exam (although I&#8217;m not sure but I think part of their placement is dependent on Regents exams and at least both the Geometry and Algebra 2 &amp; Trig Regents, although they scale the scores, nowhere near the fraud on the Algebra regents.  In any event, they have to waste their time taking remedial courses in CUNY&#8230;..they just keep failing (although in some cases subtle pressure is brought on part time faculty to not give true grades although it is nowhere near as bad as in the high schools)&#8230;&#8230;it&#8217;s incredible what you see sometimes&#8230;I am teaching a course this summer at one branch of CUNY, something sort of equivalent to Algebra II and Trigonometry&#8230;.I have students who don&#8217;t understand 6% is .06 (they think it&#8217;s .6)&#8230;today we were working on a trig problem and got down to getting the right answer by carrying out the following computation:  (-4/5)(-5/13) &#8211; (3/5)(12/13)   and sad to report many of the students (and remember they have supposedly passed either the Integrated Algebra regents or the Math A regents) didn&#8217;t have a clue (this is essentially 4th grade arithmetic).  And then when they end up not passing the course, it looks like there&#8217;s something wrong with the instruction (or the instructor namely me).  I could go on with the things I see but I think you can get the message.</p>
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