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City scrambles to recalibrate its message to adjusted scores

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, flanked by Deputy Mayor Dennis Walcott and Schools Chancellor Joel Klein, defends the city's test scores at Tweed Courthouse this afternoon.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg, flanked by Deputy Mayor Dennis Walcott and Schools Chancellor Joel Klein, defended the city's test scores at Tweed Courthouse yesterday.

Talking about the definition of academic proficiency yesterday, Mayor Michael Bloomberg struck a relativist note.

“Everybody can have their definition of what it means,” he said. Later, he added: “The last time I checked, Lady Gaga is doing fine with just a year of college.”

He even asked reporters not to refer to students who score above a Level 3 out of 4 as “proficient.”

The request follows new revelations that the bar for “proficiency” on state tests seems to have dropped over time, so that even though more students statewide were meeting it each year, they were not actually learning more. In response, the state this year took steps to tug standards higher.

Yet even as he called the definition of “proficient” into question, Bloomberg vigorously defended the administration’s tough accountability system, which uses the Level 1 to 4 system to determine which students move on to the next grade and as one piece of schools’ report card grades.

Bloomberg has also used rising numbers of students scoring at Level 3 as a referendum on his education policies, arguing over and over again that because the rates are going up, the policies must work. Just last year, announcing that more students were “meeting or exceeding grade-level math standards,” a reference to more students scoring Level 3 or higher, Bloomberg called the results “proof” of New York City schools’ excellence.

“Our schools have made a remarkable turnaround since 2002,” he said in a press release. “New York City is now proof that you shouldn’t have to choose between living in a big city and sending your children to excellent public schools.”

For years, city officials also rebuffed critics who suggested that rapid gains might not represent increases in student learning. ”I’m sort of speechless,” Bloomberg said in 2008, after GothamSchools editor Elizabeth Green (then a reporter at the New York Sun) asked whether rising graduation rates might reflect inflation. “Is there anything good enough to just write the story?”

Now that state officials have acknowledged that test scores have inflated — and they’ve adjusted them accordingly — the city is scrambling to adjust its message.

In one step, they are referring to the statewide re-calibration, which aims to offset years of apparently dropping standards, as a hiking of the bar.

“Whether the new expectations will instigate all of us to try harder, one can only hope,” Bloomberg said.

City officials are also defending their accountability measures — like the grades given to schools, based strongly on test results — by arguing that the measures don’t look at proficiency rates but rather progress from year to year. Indeed, the report card formula weights progress more heavily than how many students score at a level 3, the state’s minimum bar for proficiency.

“The virtue of our accountability system is that it’s not tied to a line in the sand,” Klein said yesterday. ”Level 3 is simply a single line,” Klein said. ”We will look at what we’ve always looked at — not at how many are level 3, but at how much progress they have made.”

Even that may prove problematic this year, since city schools’ raw scores on the tests flattened out this year as well. Anticipating the changes, city officials announced earlier this year that schools will be graded on a curve for next year’s progress reports.

Still, critics of the city’s accountability system, like teachers union chief Michael Mulgrew, said yesterday’s scores call into question not just the mayor’s record but also the wisdom of using test scores as a measure of school improvement.

“In light of the state’s more rigorous standards, the DOE’s success in raising pupil proficiency has turned out to be illusory,” Mulgrew said.

State officials defended the city against charges that the gains it has boasted are imaginary. In an interview this week, State Board of Regents Chancellor Merryl Tisch said that the city’s efforts under Bloomberg and Klein prevented the shock of the score re-setting from being even more severe.

“If you haven’t noticed that the city school system is improving, then you’re walking around with blinders,” Tisch said.

  • http://nyceducator.com NYC Educator

    Interesting the mayor would cite Lady Gaga as an example. I’ve got a 14-year-old and can’t recall the last time I wanted her to be like Lady Gaga.

    That’s kind of like telling a kid not to worry about schoolwork because he can always become a pro athlete and make millions of dollars. Were I to offer advice like that to kids, I’d deserve to be fired.

  • Teacher

    Headline at the UFT Website: “City test scores drop sharply” and goes on to say, “New York State on July 28 released sharply lower Grade 3-8 test scores statewide, after it dramatically raised the bar for student proficiency. Scores in the city went down even more than scores in the rest of the state. UFT President Michael Mulgrew said, “The city desperately needs a real instructional strategy to improve our schools. As it starts to put one together, I hope that this time the mayor and the chancellor listen to people who know something about education, including the teachers who actually spend their days helping kids learn.”
    Wouldn’t THAT be nice for a change?? Time for a big shake up at the DOE. They have failed miserably… failed the teachers, failed the schools, failed the taxpayers and most importantly failed the children of NYC! Enough of waiving requirements for the Chancellor.. we need someone with a solid background in education to lead us out of this mess. Enough of this dictator menatily, it’s OUR city, OUR schools, OUR children… stop destroying it with this billionaire infusion of programs and testing that don’t work! We need real input from teachers, parents and students to make certain that all our schools become great schools. SMALLER CLASS SIZE would be a great start! Experienced Administrators and DOE staff who value their teachers and aren’t trained to be “hit men” would be another!

  • Irritated Teacher

    I agree with the above teacher who mentioned SMALLER CLASSES. I know it’s not a new subject, but it’s getting absolutely ridiculous! I am lucky enough to work in a school where students are pretty motivated to learn and “make progress”, but it’s really hard to provide an environment that’s challenging on all levels when your class size is…

    37 8th graders!!

    This is what my class size will most likely be next year. I’m not sure it’s humanly possible to do what’s best for the students in a situation like that. Nevertheless, I shall do my best to progress the students on the test scores (even though the test is changing next year – in what ways? and we might be adopting new national standards – when? and oh yeah, of course there’s the historic 8th grade slump – too bad!)

    ugh. maybe klein can stop by and help grade a few essays…

  • I noticed that…

    The Mayor4Life should be flanked by two SCI agents and have him arrested for deceiving the public with his test-prep mania that were costly and did not allow children to learn from a rich, full curriculum, allowing principals to use the infamous, bogus credit recovery programs to graduate extremely unprepared high school students who will discover down the road that they were nothing to him but political pawns, and his most disrespectful action was to disregard the public’s decision of keeping term limits.

    Having Walcott and Klein by your side will not hide the fact that the Mayor and his DoE administration failed the children of NYC and the public should demand retribution. If a teacher can be fired for incompetence through the 3020a process, then the Mayor should be held accountable and responsible for his action.

    The public should demand action, not an explanation.

  • roma giudetti

    This is so ridiculous.  Meryl Tisch has lost all credibility. She’s the one walking around with blinders.  She needs to step down.  It’s funny how all these people are so anxious to fire teachers based on test scores, but when it comes to their own jobs they don’t want to be judged on their own abysmal results.  Bloomberg can spin it any way he wants to, the fact is that the school system is in worse shape than when he came in and that’s saying something.  He and Klein will go down in history for their ineptitude.  Aspects of the system that worked were destroyed and now absolutely nothing works. Parents, teachers, the UFT need to call for the resignation of the chancellor and the mayor should (for once in his life) listen to us.

  • Bronx Teacher

    As much as I am confused at times with Lady GaGa and have found her antics of late incorrectt and ripe for fodder, why does Bloomy feel the need to belittle her for her lack of college education? She is brilliant and talented. Why not belittle Bill Gates for his lack of graduating from college?

  • Lisa Donlan

    I would love to know what improvement Tisch is referring to here.

    What measure of “improvement” can she possibly mean?

    Improvement as compared to what/when?

    Let’s not allow for empty  talk in platitudes and vagueness- no excuses, cold hard data (Lord knows we throw enough money at measuring, collecting, massaging, recalibrating our “data”ad nausea) 

    Clearly I must be wearing blinders.

    GS- can you ask our esteemed Chancellor to elaborate?

  • jodama

    If the mayor, the chancellor, and Merly Tisch had listened to teachers they would have understood years ago that test results were extremely inflated.  Many teachers have written on this blog that they have kids in their classrooms far below grade level.  I teach 9th grade and each year a full 2/3 of the kids in the room are significantly below grade level, yet they were promoted after scoring 2s on the ELA.  This is only a surprise to those who wished to remain willfully ignorant.  Most importantly, as teachers have said again and again, the kids suffer.  They take out loans to go to college which will be spent in remedial classes learning what they should have learned in secondary school.  After a steady diet of being told they can be anything, they learn that they are ill prepared for a decent paying job.  No matter how the editorial boards of newspapers, the mayor, the chancellor, the Regents want to spin this, they have woefully let down the children of this city.

  • Lisa Donlan

    BTW- do Klein and Walcott look particularly bad in these photos or is it me?

    reminds me of the old adage of how your insides end up showing on the outside, and  how your face eventually reflects your moral character…

  • Michael Fiorillo

    Lisa,

    As per Klein and Walcott’s appearance: Nelson Algren wrote, “At twenty you have the face you’re born with; at fifty you have the face you deserve.”

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  • philip nobile

    And where were Randi and Mulgrew when the Mayor and the Chancellor gloated over the risen reading and math scores last year? Standing right behind them at the press conference, hogging credit as they could for figures they knew were phony.

    But it was contract time, time to pretend that teachers were responsible for the scoring miracle, time to dump brother Bill thompson who challenged the DOE’s success claims. Awake fellow teachers, Douglass, DuBois, Fiorillo are calling you …

  • Fair-minded Observer

    As per the more accurately released NYS exam results in ELA and Math, it is now apparent that using testing as a driving force to evaluate students and schools, as seen in NYC, has been an overwhelming failure. Tweed’s accountants and lawyers do not have the effective solutions that will promote improved students’ academic performances and subsequently close the existing achievenent gaps between students of different races.

    For eight years, non educators have led our school system. It is now time that the citizens of NYC place the future of our children in the hands of qualified professionals, our educators. We must aggressively seek the leadership of competent and qualified professionals such as Diane Ravitch, author of “The Death and Life of the Great American School System – How Testing and Choice Are Undermining Education.”

  • http://incongressional.com Esteban Rodriguez

    As I think of the harm that eight years of Children First has perpetrated on the kids, families and teachers of my city, I cannot help but dread the path we are taking as a nation.

    More of my reaction at incongressional dot com.

    If you read it, please leave a comment.

    Thanks

    BTW, Great reporting Gotham Schools.

  • Michael Fiorillo

    The changes that have been implemented in the public schools under Bloomberg have NEVER been about improving the academic performance or the lives of public school students. It has always been about gaining control of the public school bureaucracy (for the purpose of repopulating it with people more ideologically and demographically in keeping with Bloomberg’s neoliberal agenda), neutralizing or destroying the power of the UFT (which, thanks to the collaboration of Randi Weingarten and Michael Mulgrew, they have had remarkable success doing) and ultimately privatizing the system.

    Now, however, they are all in danger of being hoist on the own petards. High stakes testing was always the linchpin of their strategy, as it simultaneously could be used as a weapon against teachers and schools, and was the expression of their “if it can’t be counted, it doesn’t count” mentality, which ultimately was always about exerting control, since they were the one’s who decide what “counts.”

    But there was a built-in contradiction that always threatened their house of cards: Bloomberg’s “success” was always predicated on rising test scores, which would be achieved by hook or by crook. As these folks care nothing about the education of inner city children – seeing them as little more than props in photo opportunities and a future service proletariat – they had no concern with curriculum or instruction. Eli Broad has actually bragged about his lack of interest in teaching, and stated that his only concern is governance (meaning power and control) of the schools.

    While the teachers and students were put on a forced march of drill and kill test prep, the tests themselves had to be gamed by the higher ups to show “success” to the public. It’s no different from companies that use bogus accounting to juice their quarterly profit margins.

    Enron, anybody?

  • http://www.donorschoose.org/donors/proposal.html?id=392783&verify=-1480250958 Just SomeTeacher

    Mayor Bloomberg is advocating for more MUSIC EDUCATION so more NYC students can be as successful as LADY GAGA with only 1 year of college!!!! Now that is a change I can support ;)

  • Pogue

    Still waiting for the editorials to hold Mayor Smoke and Chancellor Mirrors accountable for their educational charade.

    And, Obama and Duncan continue to push this crap as their educational cure-all.

  • ASTRAKA

    Michael_ F.

    Enron or subprime loan disaster.
    If test scores can be used against teachers why not use them against those who are responsible for this embarrassment?

    Mulgrew better decide to stay away from Randi and the peddlers of pseudo-educational reform, and side with the children and parents of New York, and the people who pay his high salary.

  • Michael Fiorillo

    ASTRAKA,

    “If test scores can be used against teachers why not use them against those who are responsible for this embarrassment.”

    Because in this regime, accountability is for the underlings only, to be used as a vehicle for controlling the workforce and as a weapon to implement policies that, if honestly stated, would be rejected by the populace.

    It’s virtually impossible to think of one instance in recent years where accountability for those on top has been enforced: intelligence failures leading to 9/11? false reports of WMD in Iraq? failed response to Katrina? prosecution of those who looted the financial system and economy? I’m sure you and the readers of this site could go on and on.

    As for Michael Mulgrew, you seem to have more residual trust and confidence in him than I. Like his patron, Weingarten, I see him as practically being an appendage of the DOE. Having made their commitment to “collaborate” (Randi’s term, not mine) with the DOE on test-based merit pay, charter school invasions and so on, Mulgrew and Unity Caucus spend much of their time deciding how to “play” the membership, throwing out some rhetoric for their consumption, while conceding to the DOE on virtually every major issue.

    There must be something added to the air in Bloomberg’s private jet that makes them do it. Or is the wine list that good?

  • Jeff S

    What a farce that press conference was yesterday by the I am the Mayor for life and too bad if the public voted for term limits Mr. Bloomberg and his puppet the unqualified, arrogant, incompoetent lawyer ruinning the school system as they told us to cheer up. After all, we beat out Rochester!

    Of course, this doesn’t touch the high schools, you know Klein’s pride and joy where he goes around beating his chest and telling us of the improved graduation rates in the small schools (not mentioning these schools do not take the worst of the worst students but why let the facts get in the way of a good story). Of course now we can understand why it’s necessary on the integrated algebra regents to allow a percentage score of 34.45% to be considered passing; after all if the passing percentage required was what it was for years i.e. 65%, how many of these students who we were told are proficient would graduate? (BTW besides some of the other things worng with the Integrated Algebra regents, students are given a cheat sheet with many of the formulas students in the long (or not so long) ago past were required to know and to hell if they have to factor a quadratic trinomial where the coefficient of the “a” term is greater than 1 but again let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story.

  • http://shankerblog.org Matt Di Carlo

    One other benefit of this “recalibration” is that people might stop referring to proficiency rates – and changes in those rates – as test scores. More practically, it might also encourage other districts, such as the District of Columbia Public Schools, to release average scale scores along with the rates. (If anyone is interested, we discuss this issue a bit here: http://shankerblog.org/?p=304.)

  • http://www.queensteacher2.blogspot.com Queens Teacher

    Look at Klein’s stupid face. He looks constipated.
    The picture of two hopeless failures. Keep running the schools like a business, you twits. You are doing a great job! NOT!

  • Ellen

    Kafkaesque!

  • Lisa Donlan

    BTW- GREAT reporting GS!

     Maura – you hit all  the right notes and pulled no punches on this one.

    Nice work!

  • Jeff S

    You ought to watch the arrogant, incompetent, unqualified lawyer masquerading as an educator on fox channel 5 news this morning with his usual attempts to rationalize everything..enough to make you sick. At one point he made a snide comment of what a wonderful job Ms. Rhee was doing; the commentator asked if he was planning to fire teachers and he just said I don’t have the power but then went on with his nonsense. You have to watch this clown in action.

  • Akademos

    This is more serious than even many of the outraged realize. Tremendous numbers of students are not only being test-prepped out of their gourds, they are simultaneously being trained way, WAY above their true educational level. This is hugely damaging and is compounded educational fraud, which is in turn compounded by the overcrowding of public schools and the denigration and degradation of the teaching profession.

    Not surprisingly, Bloomberg, instead of acknowledging the gravity of this, waves it all off as a mere change in the definition of proficiency and diffuses and diverts attention by his inappropriate/meant-to-be-cutesy remark about Lady Gaga. 

  • Jeff S

    The thing is the colleges have refused to play this game…CUNY gives them a placement exam (although I’m not sure but I think part of their placement is dependent on Regents exams and at least both the Geometry and Algebra 2 & Trig Regents, although they scale the scores, nowhere near the fraud on the Algebra regents. In any event, they have to waste their time taking remedial courses in CUNY…..they just keep failing (although in some cases subtle pressure is brought on part time faculty to not give true grades although it is nowhere near as bad as in the high schools)……it’s incredible what you see sometimes…I am teaching a course this summer at one branch of CUNY, something sort of equivalent to Algebra II and Trigonometry….I have students who don’t understand 6% is .06 (they think it’s .6)…today we were working on a trig problem and got down to getting the right answer by carrying out the following computation: (-4/5)(-5/13) – (3/5)(12/13) and sad to report many of the students (and remember they have supposedly passed either the Integrated Algebra regents or the Math A regents) didn’t have a clue (this is essentially 4th grade arithmetic). And then when they end up not passing the course, it looks like there’s something wrong with the instruction (or the instructor namely me). I could go on with the things I see but I think you can get the message.

  • richard mangone

    The only question now is if this news will finally awaken the parents of school children to the point where it translates into a political rebellion against the policies of the administration. Even billions of dollars cannot disguise the failure of Mayor Bloomberg and Chancellor Klein’s educational policies. Let us not forget another piece of this equation the amount of money spent on education under this administration over the past eight plus years. How can the billions added to the budget be justified by the dismal performance on the state tests? “In God we trust…everyone else bring data”. Remember who made this quote?

  • Lisa Donlan

    Richard,
     I agree for most part with your analysis- but why are you putting the burden of revolt on the parents? 
     

    Can we honestly expect any serious overthrow of the status quo without marshaling the force of labor?

    Hello- where are the teachers, the principals, the custodians and service workers?

    Parents – sure but they are not an easily organized force, given their disparate demographics, needs, perspectives, etc.

    How about the union members push their union leadership to stand up and make a difference, speak truth to power and hold the Bloomberg Klien autocracy accountable!

  • bunzi

    just compared the scale score to the raw score for third graders and I am outraged. How can a child who scored 28/33 receive a level 2? Is 85% considered failing? Check out the following:

    Grade 3
    Raw score (Reading)

    1-22 correct = Level 1
    23-28 correct= Level 2
    29-31 correct = Level 3
    32-33 correct = Level 4

    Grade 3 ( Math)
    1-23 correct= level1
    24-33 correct = Level 2
    34-37 correct = Level 3
    38-30 correct = Level 4

  • http://southbronxschool.blogspot.com Bronx Teacher

    QT-

    Klein’s face is not one of constipation. Rather it is a look of knowing that the jig is up.

  • Vote NO

    Lisa,

    The only way teachers will become radicalized is when they start losing their jobs.
    Once these new “reform” inspired evaluations result in mass firings of public schools teachers, then teachers will become very active politically. Look at Washington DC. The union president down there is refusing to hold elections. I’m sure if elections were held, he would lose, since the new contract is costing so many teachers their jobs.

  • Fro

    Since we are talking about testing, have any of you fellow teachers read the tests? I mean actually dissected them? When did we get to a point in testing where you cannot simply ask “What was the main idea of the story?” or “what is the area of this triangle?” ? These tests have become too difficult in and of themselves. Just ask the children for the knowledge they should have learned based on the curriculum appropriate for that subject and grade level. Why all the test-deception and making question more difficult? Kids in grade X should learn a,b, and c and then test them on a, b, and c. It seems the State pays test companies not to come up with real questions, but to be as tricky as they can. Ask a straightforward question. Then, more children will succeed, less time will be needed on test prep, and remediation would be easy since it would be very evident what particular topic the child did not retain. Just my 2 cents…

  • richard mangone

    Lisa- I agree and in no way do I put the emphasis on the parents, they are also victimized by this scandalous fraud disguised as education reform. I have been an active Chapter leader and unionist for 28 years and yes the unions have to organize with parents and political organizations. If the parents who believed in the numbers now feel betrayed, then they will become more active which will infuse the other parties needed to fight this battle. New York City is the fulcrum on which public education will be either taken back from the reformers or gobbled up by them. Parents are vital to maintaining the public in public education. We need more folks like you for sure.

  • Jeff S

    Why don’t they just ask kids to find the area of triangle ABC if finding the area of a triangle is part of he curriculum. Well in education we no longer have simple to understand curriculums …we don’t teach a subject….we have to meet standards. And of course the other theory, and I can speak about math which I know the best, is that kids react better to “real life” problems, whatever that means. So, in modern pedagogy, you tell a kid that a certain field is in the shape of a triange and the kid mowed all the grass in the field. What is the area of the grass the kid mowed?….you see that will make the kid much more interested in the problem, or so they tell you. Of course it also requires a kid to be able to read the problem and understand what they want and I’ve seen many foreign students, very proficient in math, come in and take our new exams with all these problems in context. (I could tell you about one of the all time examples of the idiocy of this on the very first Math B exam in 2003, but I’ll leave that for a further rant).

  • Michael Fiorillo

    Richard Mangone,

    Why should “parents and political organizations’” trust the UFT leadership to undo the ongoing train wreck of public education in the city when it is complicit in it?

    Randi Weingarten betrayed parents and her members by unilaterally ignoring the recommendations of her own governance committee and supporting the continuation of the Mayor’s dictatorship of the schools. This continues to be the policy of the UFT.

    Weingarten and Mulgrew have helped institutionalize all test prep all the time by agreeing to merit pay and teacher evaluations based on these fraudulent exams.

    Weingarten and Mulgrew (with the exception of the brief period when he was running for election, and pretended to strike a more militant pose) boast of their “collaboration” with a Chancellor and Mayor who have made it painfully clear that they intend to neutralize if not destroy the union, and privatize the schools.

    At the AFT convention, Weingarten had the audacity to invite the man who is almost single-handedly privatizing the urban schools to address the membership; he thanked her by attacking teacher pensions a few days later.

    As of now, the only thing holding back armageddon for NYC teachers is the loyalty of Assembly Speaker Silver, since the current (and likely next) Governor and State Senate have become sympathetic to our antagonists. Should Silver’s political cost-benefit analysis lead him to decide that supporting the UFT is more trouble than it’s worth, then the floodgates will open.

    At that point we’ll really be alone, and it will be our leadership that will have put us there.

  • I noticed that…

    Richard,

    Michael_F is correct regarding the school governance committee. At these meetings, he brought out good points if mayoral control was allowed again. In hind sight, I feel that some of the members in the committe should have set aside their union loyalty and listened to members like Michael.

  • A. Evans

    Everyone needs to be blamed, er, held accountable except the education mayor.

  • Michael Fiorillo

    I noticed that…

    A quibble: my participation on the UFT governance committee, the minority report I co-authored and spoke for at the Delegate Assembly and my criticisms of union policy regarding mayoral control (among others) have all been based on union loyalty.

    What the Unity Caucus members on that committee and elsewhere should have set aside was their blind obedience (based on the loyalty oaths they sign as a condition of membership) to a misguided leadership. By doing so they would have reinstated their independence and personal autonomy, and served the membership far better.

  • NYCee

    Hi

    Michael… That saying has always stayed with me… I love the bit about having the face you deserve at 50, only I hadnt caught the first part about having the face you were born with at 20. Lol. Unfortunately, I dont think there has been much change for Klein… maybe at 10 he looked a little different… but just a little.

  • NYCee

    I am just now getting up to speed on what happened in New York, specifically with the Mulgrew deal w/state to make teachers’ evals tied to students’ scores (I knew it happened at the time – was appalled – but not exactly HOW it happened).

    Now I have to ask, can someone, anyone, please tell me how this works? I would have thought that the UFT would have had to present this HUGE change to teachers first… it has such impact on them! I am completely floored and rendered a Gaga (no connection to the the Mayor’s recent comment on “The Lady!”) that this just got handed over by Mulgrew. It was just the union, it seems, that kept the Dems from capitulating and changing the law, so this union, with how many members… combined with NYSUT, with how many members… has this stripped away from them with a nod from a few at the top? It seriously just doesnt compute…

    As for sell outs, yeah, it’s a full menu of sell outs: Obama (et al in cabinet, Duncan as pertains to ed fiefdom), those Dem legislators who were so eager to vote it in (ugh, I got a mailer from one of those clowns, crowing about his “help” with charters and his love of RttT – a Dem), the Dem governor, so eager to sign it (Charlie Crist, for Crist’s sake – who’d a known we’d a done better with him?) and then … Mulgrew.

    I am sickened.

    Btw, does anyone have a clear understanding of exactly what the RttT money can be spent on within those 4 main goals? Or not? What do you think it will be spent on if NY gets it.

    It seems to me that it is more of a headache, cost outweighing benefit, to implement all this stuff… except for removing the “dead wood” (See: veteran teachers) from the payrolls and accelerating the model of pay cheap for newcomers… do you think that is really what this is really all about, at bottom?

  • Vote NO

    NYCee,

    “It seems to me that it is more of a headache, cost outweighing benefit, to implement all this stuff… except for removing the “dead wood” (See: veteran teachers) from the payrolls and accelerating the model of pay cheap for newcomers… do you think that is really what this is really all about, at bottom?”

    ABSOLUTELY! You can also include, breaking the unions, and an important weapon to prosecute the war on the middle class.

  • I noticed that…

    Good Morning Michael F.,

    Thank you for your input. It is always welcomed.

    In one form or another the majority of the members have always shown union loyalty regarding education policies and reforms. As for my statement, I meant to bring attention to the displacement of independent thinking/reasoning from the members and the union’s way of misguiding the members into thinking that the union’s strategy is best. Good ideas, suggestions and strategies don’t always come from the top, but from those within the rank and file that want reforms that will benefit everyone in the school system. I truly feel it’s time for the union to listen and to take to heart the members’ concerns and moreover, the suggestions/strategies/reforms that are brought up at every meeting.

  • http://MoreThoughtful.blogspot.com Alexander Hoffman

    If scores have been raw scores have been inflating over time, and therefore proficiency rates have been inflating over time as well, then some of the progress that schools have been making in proficiency rates — an element of the city’s accountability measures has been attributing imaging gains to the schools and their leaders.

    Let me say that again: Schols have been rated in part on their success at increasing the proficiency rate of their students. But those rates have been increasing statewide because of the score inflation that has occurred over time. And so, any system that gave schools credit for increasing scores or proficiency rates is one based on (partly) imaginary gains.

  • Kalisa

    Why should any child have to take the test? If some children are being given a break, then everyone should be given a break also. I think that only certain children are being given a break. Do we know what children will be given this BREAK? I would like to know. IF SOME ARE BEING GIVEN A BREAK, ALL SHOULD BE GIVEN A BREAK. THAT WOULD BE FAIR.

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