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Klein to principals: real cuts to schools as high as $750 million

Real cuts to schools could be as high as $750 million, but projections for next year’s school budget are still plagued by uncertainty, and the Department of Education is still figuring out how cuts will affect individual schools.

That was the message of a webinar Chancellor Joel Klein held yesterday for the city’s principals to update them on next year’s dire budget scenario.

Listen to Klein’s webinar with principals:

Klein explained that in addition to the nearly $500 million city officials are projecting will be cut from state school aid, the school system’s uncontrollable costs, like special education and scheduled salary increases, will also rise by $250 million.

But it’s still unclear how those cuts will be spread around to individual schools, Klein said. The chancellor pledged to send schools preliminary budgets by June 1, giving principals at that time the information they will need to plan for next year.

Klein also gave detailed descriptions of two possible methods for deciding how many teachers in each license area will be laid off. “If you think this was written by Kafka, you’re right,” Klein said.

In the first scenario, principals would make individual decisions about which positions to eliminate in their schools. The principal of a school with greater need for math than science teachers could decide to let go the most junior science teacher, for example. But in the case of citywide layoffs, this method would create a “bumping” process of teachers throughout the city, Klein said. If the junior science teacher at the first principal’s school is more senior than a science teacher at another school, the first teacher would move to the second school to take the more junior teacher’s place. The second principal would be left with the same number of science teachers, but different staff.

The alternative to that process, Klein said, is for the DOE to centrally decide how many teachers should be let go in each license area. Under that scenario, schools who have the most junior teachers system-wide would lose those teachers, regardless of how essential the principal deems those teachers’ subject areas to be. A principal who feels that her school needs more math than science teachers, for example, may nonetheless lose more math teachers if the math teachers were hired recently.

“We’re trying to balance these competing interests,” Klein said. “Neither one, in my view, is optimal.” Klein invited principals to send him feedback about the best way to plan for layoffs.

Throughout the session, Klein emphasizes that no details are yet carved in stone because of the lack of a state budget, which is six weeks overdue.

The webinar is about 40 minutes long, and I sped through it just once. Please post interesting points you hear that I’ve missed in the comments.

  • http://www.SpecialEducationMuckraker.com Dee Alpert

    Without a doubt, this will mean that principals choose, wherever possible, to eliminate staff used to support kids with disabilities and where that is not possible on paper, will reassign such staff to non-special ed. duties in their schools. Will the NYCDOE monitor this to protect kids with disabilities newly-included as per its most recent special ed. reorganization? Unlikely … at best.

  • Nicole

    Please, no bumping. It could destroy everything we’ve created over the last eight years–our special programs, our unique theme based curriculum, our culture, our community, our values and standards.

  • Peter

    Klein should be leading the charge to Albany … a handful of State senators are holding the entire state hostage … a true leader would lead a March on Albany, tens of thousands of parents, teachers and kids laying seige to the legislature, instead he stirs the pot to gain political advantage … it looks like he wants layoffs to force a change in the senority-based layoff laws.

    At the same time he reorganizes DOE leadership and adds five deputy chancellors at a cost of $500,000 and places a $5 million contract on the PEP agenda for the New Teacher Project to recruit new teachers, if one were cynical one might claim that it was a payoff for opposing seniority based layoffs, but, that would be unthinkable.

  • Michael M.

    Just ONCE I’d like to hear Chancellor Klein say, “These potential cuts are unacceptable.”

    Just once.

  • miss teacher

    But Michael, that would get in the way of his plan to get rid of the higher-paid teachers. He’s got to be drooling over the prospect of ending LIFO and laying off the people he thinks are “dead wood”. Then there will likely be a TFA hiring binge- other states have already set the precedent for that idea- laying off people and then bringing in TFA people.

  • Joe Schmo

    Ok. I just spent 40 minutes listening to the Klein webinar for principals. I can say for sure that Klein is not too excited about the potential of having to lay off anybody. The main reason being that layoffs will cause a major disruption for the DOE. Layoffs with bumping will be the biggest game of “teacher checkers” that the city has faced since 1976. And yes, he did state that U rated teachers and then ATR’s should be the first to go. That idea is wrong on many different levels. However, I say there are a lot of politics left in play before June 1st which is day that principals will get their preliminary budgets. (The budgets with the possibilities of reduced staff) The webinar did NOT mention that items such as pay freezes, step freezes, a reduced school year, or furlough days could be implemented. I really think that NY must look at these ideas as a way to avert layoffs. At the end of the day there will most likely be layoffs. However, I believe the DOE/UFT can avoid the massive extent of these layoffs through negotiation. *I highly encourage you all to spend 45 mins and actually listen to the webinar, it is quite interesting.

  • bookworm

    Another idea I don’t hear being discussed is a smaller or 0% raise in the next contract in exchange for no longer having that useless 37.5 minute “tutorial” period where too tired teachers try to entertain too-tired students at the end of the day, mostly with games, computer programs, or EVEN MORE test prep. Give me back my time – it’s worth more than the $1500 (before taxes) a 2% raise would add to my check. If necessary, do like suburban districts do – require each teacher to offer 2 or 3 40′ “extra help” sessions per week, with the schedule at the teacher’s discretion. You can offer your sessions before/after school or during lunch, and your schedule is posted in your classroom. I’d even take a small pay CUT to be rid of that “extended day” charade.

  • Stop Bashing Teachers!

    I’m a proud, competent , NYC public school teacher (I could say more but I don’t want to appear as arrogant as Evan and Sydney who seem to think the entire system would fall apart without them, plus my momma always told me “not to toot my own horn”) In my school I think that ALL of the teachers do a wonderful job (new and experienced, young and old … we’re all in this together and we are definitely committed to our students) I’ll even go so far as to say that although I may disagree with my adminstration on some important issues including curriculum I also believe that they have the best interest of our students in mind. We work under difficult conditions… an old dilapidated building in desperate need of repairs, upgrading, cleaning, painting, etc. Nearly half of our students are ELLs, many require special education services, most qualify for free lunch, some are homeless… you name it, we have it all….. but the children thrive inspite of everything because of the committed and dedicated staff. I do not want to see ANY of my fellow teachers, paras or aides lose their positions. We are at a bare minimum now and to increase class size or to stop supplying support services will definitely harm OUR children. So what can we do to help insure that our students, our coworkers and our schools are not destroyed by the proposed budget cuts. Well first off I agree with Mulgrew that everyone concerned should be contacting their representatives and sending a strong message that our lawmakers in Albany must find a way to balance the budget without such drastic cuts to education. OK, but what if they insist on cutting the funding to NYC Public Schools? I for one would prefer no increase over the prospect of laying off even a single teacher or increasing the size of any classes. I’ve read that the union may not be willing to accept a 0% pay raise because the other unions were given a 4% raise and it would destroy the whole idea of collective bargaining (Not sure if I have that right but it’s something like that.) OK, so I think I have a great idea! We accept the 4% increase and then WE give it back to our schools for the 2010-2011 school year. Those schools that have more experienced teachers will receive a bigger “rebate” to help offset their higher payroll. Those with less experienced teachers will still be ok because they don’t have to spend as much on salaries. Obviously since there is a definite lack of trust and respect between the two side (UFT and DOE) we would need a commitment from the DOE that they would not reduce the schools’ budgets based on this “rebate” amount and we’d also have to make it clear that this is just a one year program and hopefully when the economy improves next year it will no longer be necessary.

    It’s late, I’m tired and I’m not sure if this could really work, but I think someone out there who knows better should think about it and see if they could make it work. Comments? (p.s. I have no idea how to add blank lines to show paragraphs here so I had to resort to adding a bunch of spaces. Sorry if it doesn’t turn out the way I hope.)

  • Peter

    Before we move to teacher’s filling the deficit hole with deferrals or givebacks let’s see if Tweed offers dramatic cuts in their budget … in the budget and contracts with those beyond the schools.

    If an alien force zapped the minions at Tweed to a galaxy far, far away would anyone notice …

  • Michael Fiorillo

    Stop Bashing Teachers,

    Why should teachers contribute a nickel of a hard-earned raise (yet to be negotiated) to an administration that will use it to continue attacking us, deforming the education of our students and dismantling the public school system?

    Why should teachers, or any other working person in this country, contribute a nickel to ameliorate a crisis that is not of their making?

  • Jeff S

    …so Nicole, how do you suggest these lay offs be handled and still be in compliance with civil service law and contractual obligations?

  • Fred

    there are a few bad teachers just like in any job…bad principals, chancellors, doctors, lawyers…you get the point. so we blame the teacher for all the kids faults, like michael said. TRUTHFULLY, KLEIN has given up on educating those children whose parents ARE NOT committed to the charter school system. afterall, an uninvolved parent means a poor student in his mind. he is creating a two-class system, similar to what will happen to medicine. doctors for everyone, for example our uft dentists, sorry guys, and real dentists whom we pay. teachers are expendable. with scripted lessons and a few coaches to keep them on track hire the young and ignorant and they automatically leave in 3-5 years. you know the rest….

  • bunzi

    What about the international teachers who are on H1B visas? would they be laid off since they aren’t citizens nor green caerd holders?

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