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	<title>Comments on: New rule: city can expel too-&#8221;aggressive&#8221; parents from PTAs</title>
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		<title>By: Dee Alpert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dee Alpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:37:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So call me.  I happen to run (a totally nonprofit) web site called SpecialEducationMuckraker.com.  I&#039;ve focused on school corruption - not just special ed. corruption - of all kinds for a good number of years now.  I can probably give you a hand putting together a coherent description of the issues which might be usefully explored and ... dealt with.  Whether this would mean retaining an attorney or perhaps writing something up for investigators or prosecutors, I couldn&#039;t say without hearing your story.  I&#039;m listed - feel free to give a call and I&#039;ll be more than happy to spend a while talking with you to see if there&#039;s some way I can be of assistance.  I keep all information I receive totally confidential unless I am given explicit written permission to reveal it.  

Doing this kind of thing is pretty much my only hobby.  I feel strongly that all involved, informed, concerned parents should be supported when they&#039;re trying to improve their children&#039;s education.

Given your screen name, I should tell you that while I feel strongly that the UFT has done some very, very good things for kids in NYC, on balance, I&#039;m of the opinion that the UFT pretty much operates like every other collective bargaining agent.  Sometimes unions do things which are good for their employers and/or their employers&#039; clients; sometimes they don&#039;t, and I reserve the right to call it like I see it.  Meaning that I would rather doubt that the UFT likes me very much.  I can give you seriously negative references from a few UFT officials if you&#039;d like.  =)  And while I like the concept of charters very much, I am very opposed to the corrupt ones, and also to the system (NYCDOE, NYSED) which allows corruption to flourish in regular and charter schools throughout New York State.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So call me.  I happen to run (a totally nonprofit) web site called SpecialEducationMuckraker.com.  I&#8217;ve focused on school corruption &#8211; not just special ed. corruption &#8211; of all kinds for a good number of years now.  I can probably give you a hand putting together a coherent description of the issues which might be usefully explored and &#8230; dealt with.  Whether this would mean retaining an attorney or perhaps writing something up for investigators or prosecutors, I couldn&#8217;t say without hearing your story.  I&#8217;m listed &#8211; feel free to give a call and I&#8217;ll be more than happy to spend a while talking with you to see if there&#8217;s some way I can be of assistance.  I keep all information I receive totally confidential unless I am given explicit written permission to reveal it.  </p>
<p>Doing this kind of thing is pretty much my only hobby.  I feel strongly that all involved, informed, concerned parents should be supported when they&#8217;re trying to improve their children&#8217;s education.</p>
<p>Given your screen name, I should tell you that while I feel strongly that the UFT has done some very, very good things for kids in NYC, on balance, I&#8217;m of the opinion that the UFT pretty much operates like every other collective bargaining agent.  Sometimes unions do things which are good for their employers and/or their employers&#8217; clients; sometimes they don&#8217;t, and I reserve the right to call it like I see it.  Meaning that I would rather doubt that the UFT likes me very much.  I can give you seriously negative references from a few UFT officials if you&#8217;d like.  =)  And while I like the concept of charters very much, I am very opposed to the corrupt ones, and also to the system (NYCDOE, NYSED) which allows corruption to flourish in regular and charter schools throughout New York State.</p>
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		<title>By: Unions for All Charter Schools!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Unions for All Charter Schools!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dee: We need your lawyer in our Brooklyn charter school to help fight our school leadership&#039;s unethical corruption!  Shady contracts, long work hours, preferential treatment &amp; inexplainable pay increases to co-workers... the list goes on!



























































































In some cases some charter are NO different than corrupt NYCDoE schools... they can just hire fancier lawyers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dee: We need your lawyer in our Brooklyn charter school to help fight our school leadership&#8217;s unethical corruption!  Shady contracts, long work hours, preferential treatment &amp; inexplainable pay increases to co-workers&#8230; the list goes on!</p>
<p>In some cases some charter are NO different than corrupt NYCDoE schools&#8230; they can just hire fancier lawyers.</p>
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		<title>By: Dee Alpert</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2010/04/21/new-rule-city-can-expel-too-aggressive-parents-from-ptas/comment-page-1/#comment-264244</link>
		<dc:creator>Dee Alpert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Apr 2010 03:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The solution, of course, is for parents to record all such meetings so they can have serious evidence to use in defending themselves against folks - administrators; other parent cliques - who make false allegations against them in these meetings.  My attorney always advised me that recording a conversation with another person without the other person&#039;s knowledge or permission was quite legal in New York State.    My attorney also advised me that it was legal to record telephone conversations without the other party&#039;s knowledge or permission in NYS as well.  Needless to say, he was a well-loved attorney, at least for those of us who work to document official corruption, misconduct and incompetence.

I certainly would not accept the word of anyone in power at the NYCDOE re this point of NYS law.  However, I&#039;d check with counsel before deciding whether to do concealed recording or not in a PTA type meeting.

Now, if they&#039;d only apply the same conduct code to NYCDOE officials themselves!  I recall Joel Klein being absolutely foul - rude and insulting - to Patrick Sullivan at a public meeting (CEC?) toward the end of 2009.  I believe it was the night that Barack Obama announced he&#039;d decided on selecting Arne Duncan as Secretary of Education.  I sat through the meeting simply staggered at the gross official nastiness and couldn&#039;t imagine what could possibly have spurred such inappropriate speech ... until the meeting ended, I went outside, and owners of Blackberries filled me in.  I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t record that meeting, but rest at ease knowing that others most likely did.

NB - I have never met Patrick Sullivan, and until that meeting, had no idea who he even was.  If that&#039;s the way Tweed officialdom treat a legitimate thorn in their collective side, I&#039;m not understanding why they would insist on better behavior from ... parents.  Or kids, for that matter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The solution, of course, is for parents to record all such meetings so they can have serious evidence to use in defending themselves against folks &#8211; administrators; other parent cliques &#8211; who make false allegations against them in these meetings.  My attorney always advised me that recording a conversation with another person without the other person&#8217;s knowledge or permission was quite legal in New York State.    My attorney also advised me that it was legal to record telephone conversations without the other party&#8217;s knowledge or permission in NYS as well.  Needless to say, he was a well-loved attorney, at least for those of us who work to document official corruption, misconduct and incompetence.</p>
<p>I certainly would not accept the word of anyone in power at the NYCDOE re this point of NYS law.  However, I&#8217;d check with counsel before deciding whether to do concealed recording or not in a PTA type meeting.</p>
<p>Now, if they&#8217;d only apply the same conduct code to NYCDOE officials themselves!  I recall Joel Klein being absolutely foul &#8211; rude and insulting &#8211; to Patrick Sullivan at a public meeting (CEC?) toward the end of 2009.  I believe it was the night that Barack Obama announced he&#8217;d decided on selecting Arne Duncan as Secretary of Education.  I sat through the meeting simply staggered at the gross official nastiness and couldn&#8217;t imagine what could possibly have spurred such inappropriate speech &#8230; until the meeting ended, I went outside, and owners of Blackberries filled me in.  I&#8217;m sorry I didn&#8217;t record that meeting, but rest at ease knowing that others most likely did.</p>
<p>NB &#8211; I have never met Patrick Sullivan, and until that meeting, had no idea who he even was.  If that&#8217;s the way Tweed officialdom treat a legitimate thorn in their collective side, I&#8217;m not understanding why they would insist on better behavior from &#8230; parents.  Or kids, for that matter.</p>
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