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February 9, 2010
Break out the hot cocoa. City says tomorrow is a snow day
School buses parked in Red Hook, Brooklyn, wait out a winter storm. From Flickr via Michelle
No news travels faster than word of a snow day. It’s on the radio, on teacher blogs, and in a notice sent by the Department of Education this morning: There is no school tomorrow.
The Department of Education sent out a notice at 11:10 am to say that regular school as well as all after school activities and sports are canceled. The Panel for Educational Policy meeting, which was scheduled for tomorrow night, has also been canceled and the proposals moved to the March meeting.
The same precaution is not being extended to DOE employees, who will be at their desks tomorrow, I’m told.
Last March, Chancellor Klein waited until 20 minutes before 6 am to declare a snow day, angering teachers who’d already begun their commutes and parents who had to find childcare.
The chancellor’s notice this year reads:
Due to anticipated inclement weather conditions, all New York City public schools will be closed tomorrow, February 10, 2010. All after-school activities and PSAL events will also be cancelled. While travel conditions to school in the morning may not be difficult, the weather is expected to worsen as the day progresses, complicating dismissal. We are making this decision today to give parents as much time as possible to make alternative plans for tomorrow.
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February 9th, 2010 12:30 pm
this is really terrific!! As a teacher with a VERY long commute, it is nice to see Klein FINALLY doing something right!! I know this decision was made early for the benefits of the students and parents, but it is nice to think that maybe, just maybe, this was also done for the benefit of the teachers!!
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February 9th, 2010 2:09 pm
So I guess The Post will run an article saying “Teachers get paid on Snow Day”
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February 9th, 2010 2:55 pm
What next, a lifting of the cell phone ban?
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February 9th, 2010 3:21 pm
…. the bake sale ban?
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February 9th, 2010 3:22 pm
I’m waiting for the complaints to styart rolling out from those who think schools is a baby sitting operation and after all if the schools are closed, some parents may have to actually take care of their kids. Can you imagine the cry that will go up if for some reason the storm veers out to sea?
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February 9th, 2010 3:56 pm
Well if teachers aren’t working, why should they get paid unless they use one of their vacation days? If I don’t work tomorrow, I won’t get paid unless I take a vacation day. Why are teachers different?
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February 9th, 2010 4:16 pm
QP,
If you are serious I have to point this out to you .I believe that the U.S. federal government dictates that employees are given exactly zero paid holiday and vacation days a year (that means, if you get such things, it is because your employer is being generous/in a benefits arms race with other employers). In other words, you should not even receive a paid vacation day. Do you think you are entitled to that?
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February 9th, 2010 4:40 pm
QP, My first thought was to tell you to get another job. Truth is, conditions for private sector employees are horrible, and they won’t get better by degrading the work teachers and other public employees do. Can’t get to work because of an act of god? Yes, you should be compensated. Besides, the state will require that the school year be extended one day, so stop moaning and do something to make your own job better. How about a union?
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February 9th, 2010 4:58 pm
I am a parent and I am scrambling trying to figure out who is going to watch my child tomorrw. I am also a reporter, and I can’t interview myself. Is there anyone who would like to be quoted about calling a snow day pre-emptively?
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February 9th, 2010 5:17 pm
Tweed and other DOE adminstrative offices are open tomorrow … don’t think we’ll to mke up the day, just teach a little faster.
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February 9th, 2010 6:01 pm
Aren’t Eva Moskowitz’ Harlem Success Academy schools still open?
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February 9th, 2010 6:07 pm
I have been teaching for four years and I am very excited to learn that apparently I get vacation days. I had no idea! QueensParent, please tell me how to access these “vacation days” you speak of. Apparently my colleagues have been enjoying this perk and no one bothered to let me in on it.
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February 9th, 2010 7:17 pm
Pogue,
Fun with Google:
“In Eva Moskowitz’s report for the City Council’s Education Committee, “Lost in Space: Science Education in New York City Public Schools” she writes, “Long before they can read, children ask endless questions - Why is the sky blue? Where does snow come from? - that can and should be explored in science class. Children love to experiment, and they love to ask questions, but our schools have not capitalized on this natural curiosity.”"
http (colon) //www (dot) harlemsuccess (dot) org/academicsBetter they ask, “What do we have to do to earn a snow day around here?”
Ms. M. mentioning “space.” Got irony?
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February 9th, 2010 7:46 pm
to the reporter…..why don’t you ask one of the millions of suburban parents what they do when there is a snow day? Somehow they have managed for many, many years now. Perhaps you should better manage your sick days/mental health days?
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February 9th, 2010 7:51 pm
QP, you are a HATER! You do not like teachers and your comments shows. Stop HATING! HATERS do not get anywhere in life and I pray you are not teaching your child to be a HATER like you!
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February 9th, 2010 8:04 pm
Why do I get the impression that QP was in a former life a rejected teacher or something. Every single thing you write, honestly reflects your lack of sense or understanding of the topic at hand. I have seen plenty of hate words for teachers in the garbage of so called newspapers called the DailyNews or the Post. I come here to read an intelligent comment, but you seem to have an ax to grind with someone.
So, perhaps when you read about the glorious vacations that school janitorial staff in France get, are you going to unleash your vitriol on that fact also?
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February 9th, 2010 8:28 pm
Invictus, I agree with you. I read her anti teacher comments all the time and I ponder if she is a current Tweed member or jealous of our career which she never accomplished! She has a lot of time on her hands by commenting on everything negatively! She is probably unemployed and wish she could of or should of became a teacher. She is a jealous WITCH!
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February 9th, 2010 10:05 pm
Does anyone know if Queens Parent truly is a “parent” or just plays one on this blog.
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February 10th, 2010 7:17 am
Queens Parent, and Jane Wyatt, with Elinore Donahue, Billy Gray, and Lauren Chapin in “QueensParent Knows Best”.
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February 10th, 2010 11:18 am
I had to laugh when I read this. First, I think teachers get quite a bit of vacation. After all, you only work eight months out the year once you factor in all of the summer and school vacations. Second, what’s more revealing is that instead of addressing my arguments about leave policy directly, you attack me personally. This is a hallmark of people who can’t engage in a debate of idea, but rather, feel it is more effective to just try to undo a person with invective. Didn’t you all learn ANYTHING in college (or education school)? Gosh, I hope this is not what you teach your students. On the other hand, given where New York City public school students are performance wise, it seems apparent that’s exactly what is going on.
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February 10th, 2010 11:39 am
QP,
I am going out sledding with my former students but have to make three quick comments.1. I knew when Ms. Eyre made that comment it was like a lobbed softball heading your way. I won’t even touch that one.
2. I do not want to personally attack you (though I have been guilty as charged on a few occasions and for that I apologize)
3. I have asked you very legitimate questions and you have not answered them as well. Do your comments apply to yourself? My question on this very thread was do you think you are entitled to paid vacation days? It was a question based on what you said ‘I won’t get paid unless I take a vacation day”. You getting paid on a vacation day because as I said earlier, it is the system that was set up for you (out of the kindness of your company, not a law). We on the other hand have a Union, this was the system set up for us. You criticize the system I am in, yet accept your own when it is good for you. Do you not see how that makes you not only a hypocrite but (and I cannot believe I am saying this) but the same in this situation? (I do not mean Summer)
I will ride the sled down the hill a few times for you.
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February 10th, 2010 11:43 am
JH it does not make me a hypocrite, it makes me a taxpayer, because “the system that was set up for you” comes out of my pocket and takes more and more of my income each year. So yes, there is a difference. Just looking at what you have written, you put Union where Government should have been, but I do get that that is how public employees see things. The Union is the Government to them.
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February 10th, 2010 11:56 am
Back on topic — ahem — I’ll be generous and say 2-3″ have fallen in midtown, with virtually no snow at all in the last hour or so. The skies to the south and west are relatively clear. I hope enough falls by the early afternoon to go sledding, but right now this storm is looking like a bust.
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February 10th, 2010 11:59 am
I am asking again, is there anyone out there who can talk to a reporter for a minute or two and tell us what you’re doing with your kids on this snow day?
Thanks,
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February 10th, 2010 12:04 pm
QP, everyone is a tax payer for that matter. Moreover, while it is noble to question the “policy” you so speak of and not comment upon the moral character of the commentator, your past rants about teachers have made almost anything you comment on this site questionable or political for that matter.
So, policy it is. City Hall says “Snow Day” and all these “teachers” who have so many vacations days get 1 more day on my tax $$$. Get a hold of yourself, City Hall did not do it because they were thinking of the teacher’s Union or these lazy, good nothing educators but they did it on behalf of all these sensitive parents who would be furious getting day care arrangements together with just a few hours worth of prior warning. All day cares and Pre-Ks are also closed.
While you criticized the policy, your clear mistake was not clearly and fully criticizing the motives behind such Snow Day call on part of City Hall, and thus, and most appropriately looking at your prior “record” here, were seen with these replies going in another teacher bashing rant, that you so often do.
Moreover, do not try to hide your questionable reasons of arguing something out in your thin veil of calling people’s comments personal attacks on your virtual persona.
Many teachers in the NYC public system are on the average very highly educated, some went to Education schools, some come from graduate programs, some with PhDs, some with Law Degrees. If you have not visited or know many teachers who work in schools, you should really consider this teaching thing and join the ranks.
If it is this easy, and they get so many vacations days, why not try it for a couple of years. I bet that idea of teaching will be quite changed within 2 weeks in the trenches. Asides from being exhausted, bad mouthed by sassy children you will be granted an occasional snow day, and perhaps then you can confront your double in a virtual forum complaining how you get to spend a “Snow Day” on someone’s tax money.
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February 10th, 2010 12:16 pm
QP must have a job that allows blogging before 4pm but then again professional ed deformers get paid to sit at computers and make dumb comments.
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February 10th, 2010 12:16 pm
To Queens Parent, If you do not get paid today, it is because you did not ATTEND work. For us teachers, the Chancellor chose to close schools, which means we cannot attend by ANY means, and this is why we get paid without using a sick day,
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February 10th, 2010 12:28 pm
Norm try blogging from your telephone. It really isn’t that hard to do if you know how to multi task, seriously. Just because you can’t fathom someone commenting on this from something other than a desktop, doesn’t mean it does not happen all the time. To Invictus, I challenge you to find one comment on here where I have personally attacked anyone. Go ahead, you won’t because I am more intelligent than that. Like I said before, you all don’t have enough perspective to get the difference between having a contrarian view on education policy is not the same as “hating teachers.” To unionists of course, anyone who disagree with them obviously hates teachers. I would hate to live in that kind of paranoia but I see that many do. It is just like those people at the education hearing, teachers, parents, and students alike, that shouted down anyone who didn’t agree that their school should be closed. That is not the same as debate. That is simple mob rule, and I’m glad they didn’t succeed. And to NYC Teacher, when my son was in 2nd grade years ago, his teacher sent home a note stating that a substitute would be in her class the next day and that she planned to be sick. Yes, she wrote those exact words. When I called the principal about it, the teacher sent home a second note stating that her first note was in error, but it was clear that both her and the principal had this idea that it is ok to plan to be sick in order to exhaust leave days, the error was just that she wrote about the scheme. You see the absurdity of it all?
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February 10th, 2010 12:36 pm
I completely agree that it is absurd that she sent home such a letter. I just wanted to get the point across that if schools were not officially closed today, we would have to use a sick day/personal day or we would not get paid, just like at any other job. Any institution that closed today should pay their employees, not just schools.
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February 10th, 2010 1:13 pm
Dear QP, you challenged me to find if with your comment, you did not personally attacked anyone. Here is a refresher, “Well if teachers aren’t working, why should they get paid unless they use one of their vacation days? If I don’t work tomorrow, I won’t get paid unless I take a vacation day. Why are teachers different?.” By the fact that instead of using a non proper noun such as “someone” instead of “teacher” in your post, it is clear that you are referring to a specific group of people that is not just anyone in the entire society. Most of the people who write and read these posts are related to teachers and teaching. It is simplistic to believe that by your choice of yours you are not referring to a specific group of people, to a specific profession and in these forum, to a lot of people.
I will not discount your experience with your child’s second grade teacher, but that should not be the guiding standard of how you should view the entire group of teachers in general.
Moreover, in the hearings you talk about, you certainly believed that there was going to be a ‘dialogue’ between Teachers/Parents/Students and the PEP?
Let put it in perspective, if you were a lawyer in a case, you expect that your comments would sway the opinions of the jury in general. What is in this jury, more than 1/2 of the jury were chosen not by your and the prosecution, but chosen solely by the prosecution. Moreover, the prosecutor having been chosen by a judge, who happen to be bias against the types, of which your client belong.
Think about this scenario and if you expected yourself as a moral lawyer, to fight against such odds, that if you are reasonable, you would not have acted the same way.
In reality, you would have been arrested or ejected out of the court, but in today’s Wild Circus that is the Public forum where supposedly “Democracy” takes place, it is understood that some outpouring and public outcry is expected and it these manifestations of opposition were counterproductive or seem more “mobbish” like, so be it.
PS: Have you seen these pictures/postcards taken of lynchings by mobs in the South? I do not believe that mob is the right word to be applied in the PEP hearings.
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February 10th, 2010 1:30 pm
No wonder you hate teachers QP. Gee, if for some reason I knew I was going to be out the next day, letting parents know in advance seem like a decent thing to do and if I were a parent I would appreciate the gesture, not attack the teacher. Accuse the teacher of bad writing. Maybe she was sick and knew she couldn’t come in. But you would put the worst face on anything.
I guess that teacher must have taken lots of days and your 2nd grader didn’t know all that much at the end of the year. You should have removed your child and found a charter school.Now I didn’t accuse you of blogging from your desk but of having the freedom to blog on your job which if that 2nd grade teacher did it you would have jumped on in a minute. You are the one who complained about not being paid for a snow day. Apparently you either didn’t work today (did you take a vacation day so you can get paid? can we take up a collection?) or are blogging all day from your job. Tsk, tsk.
As to the PEP, where were you and your ilk? So few people willing to stand up for your choice ideals. I know many of the people involved in education activism and most of those speakers attacking your point of view - mostly people of color I might add- were people I have never seen before. Not union hacks but rank and file teachers and so many kids - I know in your game of “concern” for the poor, probably viewed as manipulated by union hacks.
I have 5 hours of video to prove it. You guys were outnumbered 100 to 1. But BloomKlein had 8 out of 13. Just enough for your style of “democracy.”
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February 10th, 2010 1:43 pm
Okay, my skepticism was unfounded — time to get out of Dodge! It is coming down hard out there, and sideways at times. Be safe, all.
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February 10th, 2010 1:49 pm
sipping green tea with crytalized ginger and nibbling skillet corn bread … time for a pot of stew, or, maybe homemade baked beans … or a hearty soup, any ideas? recioes?
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February 10th, 2010 1:55 pm
if i am not mistaken,don’t doe employees with summers off and breaks off get paid for a 10 month year and the pay is spread over 12 months? jeez,its a snow day-it happens-the schools can not always be your babysitter-part of having children-there will be days where you will have to care for them on your own–enjoy your snow day-my children are enjoying theirs.
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February 10th, 2010 2:05 pm
Norm, being outnumbered 100 to 1 doesn’t mean you are right. What is this Germanesce “might makes right” argument? If I had had my transportation paid for by the UFT in the form of free coaches to the PEP hearing, it would be pretty easy to get lots of “supporters” there right? Isn’t it funny how we create the conditions we want to see, and then comment on how wonderful they all are. I have read on these blogs how the charter school supporters at the hearings where rudely interrupted and shouted down by others. In other words, I had my two minutes to speak but won’t let you have yours to say your peace. Yes, that’s precisely the kind of democracy unions aspire to. I did attend the Jamaica and Beach Channel hearings and yes what I saw was a bunch of teachers and UFT hacks talking about how wonderful the schools are (”save my job”) and falling silent about the thousands of kids who have had their educational opportunities crushed by failing schools.
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February 10th, 2010 2:14 pm
I was at both events also QP and you must have not been wearing your 3D glasses. The teachers who spoke - they are not saving their jobs. They will become ATRs and have a job. They were trying to save their school. You must have been in the bathroom when all those kids spoke at both meetings. Current and alumni. And the parents. But it’s all about students and parents, obviously more dupes of the UFT.
As for the 50 buses. Were they more or less than the number of buses that took the charter school parents up to Albany? Did might make right there?
If there were a 100 to one my question is where were the 3000 charter school supporters at the PEP? The UFT must have gotten to the buses first.
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February 10th, 2010 2:26 pm
Germanesque, bunch of teachers, UFT hacks, educational opportunities crushed by failing schools.
I question, incredible graduation rates, small schools, charter that cannibalize on perfectly fine P.S. at the expense of regular students, Rubber Rooms filled with child molesters and/Kafkesque characters who do not know what they are charged off, and Middle Class Citizens with College degrees who do not see how these highly performing newly minted schools by Bloom and Company will lead to better outcomes for all these students which will go to College, to take an average 3.5 years to make up what these “wonderful” small schools should have taught them in high school.
This society is quite interesting, it is not okay to “fail” in HS, while it is okay to fail in College. Geez, that is some hack economics logic, wouldn’t you say?
Oh, I forgot, there is a plan by the Department of Education to scrutinize Colleges about their “failing” policies and questionable graduation rates within 2-4 years.
There should be NCSLB in the future. No College Student Left Behind policy in the future, that would surely fix these “failing” colleges.
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February 10th, 2010 2:30 pm
2025, the Board of Regents and the PEP were shouted down by College Students, Parents and College Professors union in a packed house at City College Auditorium as the rubber stamping body of the Governor and the Mayor declared, “We cannot fail these students, it is not about the adults and would you send your college age daughter or son to one of these failing colleges?”
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February 10th, 2010 2:53 pm
I wonder how many kids drop out in China. Bet they are not closing schools there.
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February 10th, 2010 2:53 pm
What I meant by my comment is that teachers do not get vacation days to use as we like. Yes, we have paid vacation when schools are closed. No, we do not have “vacation days” like most people do to use when they choose. I’m not complaining about that–it’s the way it works–but it is the reality.
As well, when you calculate the work I and I’m sure most other teachers do before hours, after hours, on weekends, and, yes, during the summer, we work just as much, if not more, than employees in other industries. I’ve done the math. I work 50-60 hours a week, and as long as I work 50 hours, the taxpayers are getting their money’s worth out of me–and that includes all the so-called “vacation” time, over which most teachers are working at least part of the time anyway. Like how I spent four hours of my “vacation” day today grading papers.
I don’t mind or resent this. It’s the job. It’s what I signed up for. But I sure as HELL resent people like QP claiming that I get off easy.
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February 10th, 2010 3:00 pm
I agree with Miss Eyre, most people don’t realize all the work teachers do outside of the classroom. Teaching is not a job you can leave at work. You bring it home with you everyday. Weekends and vacations are spent planning and grading and then re-planning.
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February 10th, 2010 3:02 pm
bad example - China does not have free universal public education, it is extremely class oriented, for the many poor, who cannot afford school, the future is a life in a back breaking job in a factory, needless to say, without a union.
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February 10th, 2010 3:06 pm
Norm, I do not know much about China but in other Asian countries like Korea and Japan, the drop out rate is quite low. In fact for secondary schools is insignificant. In Korea secondary education is not mandatory but every single parent in their right mind, from a lowly farm worker in the provinces to a highly educated Hedge Fund manager in Seoul would not even blink to send their children for further education.
The difference between this and those societies is the homogeneity of the population and societal believes in contrast to the heterogeneity of attitudes towards every single topic/matter in the US.
There would not be a necessity of educating the public at large about the importance of education and teaching in general because for their societies the importance of knowledge and competition had been inculcated since their early contacts with China during the Han Dynasty.
But, fear not, our fearless leader in DC as well as our Middle Class, College Age population in their infinite wisdom via the Hollywood brainwashing machine has taught the leaders and the population of these countries that, education in their countries is inadequate and “innovation” of the American educational system will need to be introduced to their traditional and “failing” educational systems.
BTW, to these people who know nothing about what makes an educational system truly successful, Korean parents spend about 51% of their income educating their children. Chinese parents get together and if their child is floundering, they blame not the system but scrounge money to get a tutor or enroll their child in a after school academy. They do not perceive failure as an attribute of someone else or an institution, but as a personal failure.
Of course, that would not really work in the United States because in the Land of the Free there is no such a thing as someone who is truly guilty of not doing their jobs and the guilt always lies elsewhere.
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February 10th, 2010 3:07 pm
And one should note that Miss Eyre is not a grizzled UFT hack but a teacher relatively new to the system who came through the new models of teacher recruitment and has quickly learned the ropes. If one reads her blog we can see the dedication and commitment. That this generation of teachers who were being counted on as anti-union shock troops by the ed deformers sees the big picture has to be a nightmare for the likes of QP and the rest of the Ed Deform crowd and just one reason you will ultimately find yourselves on the wrong side of history. Coming soon: those overworked charter school teachers. Just wait till the economy improves and the TFA cachet disappears.
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February 10th, 2010 3:11 pm
I beg to differ Peter. Coming soon to an American city near you:
[Pick a city with mayoral control] does not have public education, is
extremely class oriented, for the many poor, the future is a life in a back breaking job in a McDonalds or Walmart needless to say, without a union. -
February 10th, 2010 3:25 pm
Your logic and the outcome of these educational revolutions, Norm, are the same way I view the immediacy and the reason behind them. This is not about real educational reform, it is class and clearly in NYC, racial war, on a group of people who were not necessarily well off, but were making their strides.
What better way of really slowing these disenfranchised groups from attaining the echelons of power? Give them dumbed down diplomas which will be used to apply to College and whose rigors will drive them to drop out.
I do not want to think about it all pessimistically but this is the only thing that comes to my mind.
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February 10th, 2010 3:53 pm
Norm, if you were in China, and writing the same blog you would soon find yourself in a government institution involuntarily “donating” a kidney … the emmigration from China to the US is reminiscent of our forebarers, fleeing from oppressive regimes, for all our flawss, and there are many, US is nirvana.
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February 10th, 2010 4:04 pm
Peter, I did read about the acceleration of the dismantling of the socialist fabric of China after 1987-88 student uprisings. The Chinese educational and economic system while incredible/mind boggling to outsiders, it is what it is, a certain group benefitting at the expense of a larger population whose standards of living barely moved or got worse, while some connected people got obscenely rich.
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February 10th, 2010 4:15 pm
According to QP “I did attend the Jamaica and Beach Channel hearings”. As I stated in my previous comment she works for the other side (the mayor). And she is a anti-teacher WITCH!. Yes, I am attacking you QP because you CONSTANTLY attack my brothers and sisters (dedicated teachers). Get a LIFE. Because if you are not a teacher and constantly on this site, it shows that you do not have a LIFE, WITCH!!!
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February 10th, 2010 5:25 pm
Several comments regarding QP.
1. The contract between the United Federation of Teachers and the New York City Department of Education was also approved with the consent of the public. If the public was not in favor of the generous “perks” of the contract, than one could have voted the Mayor out of office. 2. The truth is we do work 10 months out of the year, notwithstanding the extra time spent outside the classroom. Our salaries reflect this, however we chose to spread out the payments over 12 months, unlike some of our suburban colleagues. -
February 11th, 2010 1:20 pm
Can we drop this phony argument of tax payer money vs private money please? Did anyone take economics? Money or capital moves from private to public hands and back again in a circular flow.. QP you’re a taxpayer so you pay my salery.. well true but last i checked teachers were tax payers too and I also believe that teachers use this money to then purchase goods and services from private companies so whatever company you work for some of your money came from teachers.. It also probably came from government grants if you do research ect.. My point is there really no such thing as public and private money it flows around and around and we’re all paying eachother.
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February 11th, 2010 4:07 pm
Insiderknowledge but the difference between me is I don’t lobby the government for rules to protect my salary and benefits because I don’t work for the government. FDR fought for private unionization but against public employee unions because he saw the huge conflict of interest in the offing with government employees expanding government at the taxpayer expense, which has now unflided right before our eyes. The unionists taxpayers are lobbying for policies that line their pockets at the expense of kids. Shameful.
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February 11th, 2010 4:44 pm
Wait QP, you really think we lobby for policies that line our pockets at the expense of kids? Do you know who we go into and work with everyday? We lobby for policies that allow us to maximize our potential as educators of children, and what many who are not in the field fail to recognize is the amount of work and stress our job truly is. Anyone who has not spent a year in the classroom has no ability to comprehend how many hours a week the average teacher truly puts in- both in and out of the classroom. A decent part of my salary is put back into my students in classroom materials the budget cuts have taken away year after year. As to your other point, about us lobbying the government for the protection of salaries and benefits, the government IS our employer, much like you would go to your boss, we are required to deal with the often inept politicians in the government to guarantee our job safety and salary. We provide a public service through the government, one that it seems your avail yourself of for your own children? I suppose I do not understand your bitterness towards those that are in the classroom with your children on a daily basis. I have not read all your posts, but you seem to harbor a grudge against teachers. Is there a reason for this?
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February 11th, 2010 5:29 pm
So, by implication, FDR would have fired the Air Traffic Controllers too?
FDR was Reagan’s mentor?
Who knew.The things I’d learn if I lived in Queens.
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February 11th, 2010 6:06 pm
Must have been the teachers fault that QP doesn’t know her stuff. Still waiting for an answer from yesterday about paid vacation days.
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