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]]> By: Jeff S http://gothamschools.org/2010/02/08/rise-shine-post-stimulus-funding-cliff-nears-for-many-states/comment-page-1/#comment-254473 Jeff S Mon, 08 Feb 2010 23:50:44 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=32456#comment-254473 QP...let me make it very clear. I sure wouldn't want a teacher who impregnated a student to be a teacher of my kid. No sane person can argue against that. The problem is, though, I have seen too many case where an incompetent Principal, and there are more and more of them around as the Leadership Academy has been an abysmnal failure what with not requiring a minimum of 10 years of experience in education, at least seven in the classroom and at least 3 in administration but that's for another time and place. Not all teachers in the rubber rooms are guilty; just like not all teachers who can't find jobs and are in the ATR are unsatisfactory. We all know that. As a lawyer, as he is clearly not qualified to be an educator, it is Klein's job to see to it that the people in the rubber rooms get a fair hearing and if they are guilty are excluded from the classroom. Surely as a lawyer he can do something about that. He sure doesn't have a clue about educdation. QP…let me make it very clear. I sure wouldn’t want a teacher who impregnated a student to be a teacher of my kid. No sane person can argue against that.

The problem is, though, I have seen too many case where an incompetent Principal, and there are more and more of them around as the Leadership Academy has been an abysmnal failure what with not requiring a minimum of 10 years of experience in education, at least seven in the classroom and at least 3 in administration but that’s for another time and place. Not all teachers in the rubber rooms are guilty; just like not all teachers who can’t find jobs and are in the ATR are unsatisfactory. We all know that. As a lawyer, as he is clearly not qualified to be an educator, it is Klein’s job to see to it that the people in the rubber rooms get a fair hearing and if they are guilty are excluded from the classroom. Surely as a lawyer he can do something about that. He sure doesn’t have a clue about educdation.

]]> By: QueensParent http://gothamschools.org/2010/02/08/rise-shine-post-stimulus-funding-cliff-nears-for-many-states/comment-page-1/#comment-254452 QueensParent Mon, 08 Feb 2010 16:49:37 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=32456#comment-254452 Jeff S you don't have the right distinction. There are educators in these rubber rooms who may not have what is alleged against them, like the featured educator who is alleged to have impregnated two teenagers, substantiated. But do you think I as a parent want that kind of educator back in any school or near any other young people ever? The answer is absolutely not. Or take teachers who come to work drunk -- you recommend the principal administer a breathalyzer in the classroom? I don't agree with applying strict legal standards to these cases, or as you suggest, "if you can't PROVE I had sex with a teenager (only that I propositioned it), then I deserve my school job back." Teachers I believe have higher moral standards than other professions, or at least it they used to. Jeff S you don’t have the right distinction. There are educators in these rubber rooms who may not have what is alleged against them, like the featured educator who is alleged to have impregnated two teenagers, substantiated. But do you think I as a parent want that kind of educator back in any school or near any other young people ever? The answer is absolutely not. Or take teachers who come to work drunk — you recommend the principal administer a breathalyzer in the classroom? I don’t agree with applying strict legal standards to these cases, or as you suggest, “if you can’t PROVE I had sex with a teenager (only that I propositioned it), then I deserve my school job back.” Teachers I believe have higher moral standards than other professions, or at least it they used to.

]]> By: Mary Churchill http://gothamschools.org/2010/02/08/rise-shine-post-stimulus-funding-cliff-nears-for-many-states/comment-page-1/#comment-254448 Mary Churchill Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:41:40 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=32456#comment-254448 Early college high schools - brilliant trend. I've been discussing the issue of who owns Grade 13 with higher ed colleagues. Several trends coming together here: 1-complaints from faculty that students are not ready for college; 2-increasing AP credits and dual-enrollment highschool/college and 3-highschools held accountable for college enrollment/success. If high schools take over grade 13, higher ed stands to lose quite a bit of money - the first year classes are the biggest revenue generators with the biggest profit margins. Usually the largest classes and often taught by part-time adjuncts. Mary Churchill, University of Venus Early college high schools – brilliant trend. I’ve been discussing the issue of who owns Grade 13 with higher ed colleagues. Several trends coming together here: 1-complaints from faculty that students are not ready for college; 2-increasing AP credits and dual-enrollment highschool/college and 3-highschools held accountable for college enrollment/success. If high schools take over grade 13, higher ed stands to lose quite a bit of money – the first year classes are the biggest revenue generators with the biggest profit margins. Usually the largest classes and often taught by part-time adjuncts.

Mary Churchill, University of Venus

]]> By: Jeff S http://gothamschools.org/2010/02/08/rise-shine-post-stimulus-funding-cliff-nears-for-many-states/comment-page-1/#comment-254433 Jeff S Mon, 08 Feb 2010 12:48:02 +0000 http://gothamschools.org/?p=32456#comment-254433 There is a key word in almost all of these rubber room stories and that word is....accused. So and so is accused of......well I thought one of the guiding principles of this country that all of us, including the inept, incompetent, arrogant, uncertigfied lawyer masquerading as an educator, is taught is about due process and the fact a person is not guilty unless guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Let the DOE follow the proper procedures and if these guys and gals are truly guilty of what is being described, then of course get rid of them B;ut we can't have a system where a Principal, many of whom lack the experience to be Principals, can forge up phony charges ranging from incompetence to insubordination. Also we've all heard of cases where somebody is accused of something and the accusations are shown to be nonsensical. I understand the importance of protecting children but not every accusation is always true, we all know that. If the DOE is unable to follow state law, so it is claimed, let's make the law simpler. That is not fair to the people being accused. Yes, I'm sure some of the people in the rubber room are guilty and don't deserve to be in the classroom but let the DOE follow the proper procedures and prove it. But the nonb educator running the school system thinks whatever he says is the law; one of the big problems of the NYC school system today! There is a key word in almost all of these rubber room stories and that word is….accused. So and so is accused of……well I thought one of the guiding principles of this country that all of us, including the inept, incompetent, arrogant, uncertigfied lawyer masquerading as an educator, is taught is about due process and the fact a person is not guilty unless guilt is proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Let the DOE follow the proper procedures and if these guys and gals are truly guilty of what is being described, then of course get rid of them B;ut we can’t have a system where a Principal, many of whom lack the experience to be Principals, can forge up phony charges ranging from incompetence to insubordination. Also we’ve all heard of cases where somebody is accused of something and the accusations are shown to be nonsensical. I understand the importance of protecting children but not every accusation is always true, we all know that. If the DOE is unable to follow state law, so it is claimed, let’s make the law simpler. That is not fair to the people being accused. Yes, I’m sure some of the people in the rubber room are guilty and don’t deserve to be in the classroom but let the DOE follow the proper procedures and prove it. But the nonb educator running the school system thinks whatever he says is the law; one of the big problems of the NYC school system today!

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