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After parents’ visit, Sen. Perkins calls for charter school hearings

Charter school advocates’ day of political action in Albany last week appears to have had an unintended consequence: State Senator Bill Perkins now wants to hold hearings to expose an alleged lack of oversight and parent voice in the schools.

In a half-hour interview on WWRL’s Working New York radio show this Saturday, Perkins said that a group of charter school parents who have become disenchanted with their childrens’ schools came to see him and left a lasting impression. Those parents belong to the New York Charter Parents Association, a recently-started group that’s supportive of charter schools, but quite critical of their management.

“There’s a parent movement that’s not being paid attention to within the charter schools,” said Perkins, who recently supported a bill backed by the teachers union that would have lifted the charter cap while placing tight restrictions on how and where the schools open.

“A part of their concern is how the money is being spent, and whether as parent leaders they are allowed to have certain types of access to information. They have been threatened with being put out of the schools if they insist on those types of opportunities that normally any parent would get access to,” he said.

The hearings — which aren’t scheduled, but will be “soon” he said — will focus on the city and state’s oversight of charter schools, the rates at which students are expelled or counseled to leave, and the difficulty parents have in obtaining and understanding schools’ by-laws.

“We want to make these charter school operators in the city to be more transparent and be more open, especially to the parents,” Perkins said.

  • http://www.nycharterparents.org Mona Davids

    NYCPA supports having this hearing because parents MUST know what their rights and their children’s rights are in charter schools. Unlike the DoE system, there are no chancellor regs, mandatory independent PA/PTA’s, district family advocates or CEC representation in charters.

    So what are parents to do if they’re having an issue at their school? Depending on who your authorizer is, there are 3 different complaint procedures to follow. And, it MUST be a violation of the charter or by-laws which most parents have never seen much less know exists.

    Parents must understand that their schools are held accountable to their charter and by-laws. Parents must be educated on the process which governs charter schools. Parents must know that it is the Board of Trustees that govern their charter school and the school leaders are answerable to the Board of Trustees.

    Unfortunately, 99.9% of parents in charters do not have access to their school’s charter or by-laws and when requested have to FOIL their schools. This is unacceptable.

    Every charter school should post their charter and by-laws online for parents to view and/or download. If they’re abiding by their charter and by-laws, they should willingly do it.

    The charter and by-laws must be accessible to every parent who requests it so that parents may know what they can hold their school accountable for in educating their kids and know their rights when schools are attempting to expel, push out or counsel out their kids if they’re special ed or ELL.

    Lastly, charter school board members MUST have governance training and understand their fiduciary responsibilities as board members. Board members need to remember they’re supposed to provide proper oversight and hold school leaders accountable.

  • Tim

    What a Hypocrite. Bill Perkins gets and earfull from 3,000 Charter Parents about how they love their schools and don’t want them double cut, and he responds by saying that parents don’t have a voice in charter schools? Insane logic this bad only works in the NY state Senate. Let parents decide where to go, and let them vote with their feet, that’s the greatest power of all for a parent.

  • http://www.SpecialEducationMuckraker.com Dee Alpert

    We don’t need more laws that the NYS Education Dept. won’t enforce. Parent involvement, and parents’ right to have information about their children’s schools, is written into various federal and state laws in numerous ways. State Ed. doesn’t enforce them … and never will. If we get a law mandating that charters provide parents with information, much less allowing them any kind of input into how their children’s schools are run, it will just be more of the same thing. Empty words on paper.

    More parental involvement certainly needs to be encouraged, and required where necessary, in NYS. If we’re ever going to get this, we first need to set up some kind of enforcement entity which is not the NYS Education Department. After that, the rest is easy.

    Remember the riot at the Regents’ meeting last year when it turned out that State Ed. had approved a district’s C4E plan without having bothered to hold the “mandatory” public hearings so parents could provide input into the plan?

    Here’s another good State Ed. one: A caring State Legislator got a law passed “mandating” that special ed. staff be trained in autism. State Ed.’s proposal was to require one 2-hour lecture! When it was pointed out that Rain Man was longer than this, State Ed. changed its proposal – and then passed it – requiring one 3-hour lecture! That’s Rain Man plus about 20 minutes for a Q&A. State Ed. didn’t like the law and didn’t want districts or graduate schools of education to be bothered by this little requirement, so it essentially nullified it by passing a regulation which made the law into a travesty. Now people who have sat through a single long lecture on an extraordinarily complicated disability can claim they are fully trained. The people who wrote this regulation, and the Regents who approved it, should be publicly razzed – at every opportunity.

    State Ed. isn’t about to require charters to provide parents with detailed information and/or opportunities for them to have a legitimate voice in how their children’s schools are run because if they did so, there would be demands that the same requirements be in place for public schools. And that’s something State Ed. will never do.

  • ex charter school mama

    This is long over due. Charter schools and their school leaders have been preying on the misinformed parent. They have been selling us a dream in which they have not excuted. The free ride is over! They need to be held accountable and provide a quality education to our children especially to those that have special needs/ELL.We need legislation that will protect our children’s education! Public money deserves public accountability!

  • Parent at Tom’s, I mean Tim’s school…

    Interim principal Tom is that you??? Oh, I’m sorry, you did put Tim didn’t you… No wonder your answer is to take our kids elsewhere… That is after all your M.O. get the money and then antagonize the students and disrespect the parents rights until they leave – right? Keep the name flinging to a minimum please… Hypocrite is usually so quickly used by those who wear it well and often.

  • http://www.sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    He’s got a point, but it’s typical grandstanding showmanship from a politician who has basically reached his ceiling.

    The point is, charter schools need to stick to the spirit of the law that promises they will be open and transparent. This problem, however, is not germaine only to charters, and of course is not at issue in all charters.

    A bigger problem is the nonsense argument Sen. Perkins typically trots out to explain why he opposes charters.

    A bigger problem still is why Sen. Perkins is raising this issue now, as a response to parents from his district asking to meet with him about THEIR concerns. It’s like a parent who waits until his or her child has trouble at school to provide feedback to the school – and it’s called deflection.

  • Parent

    Kitchensink, I went to your blog post and noted your comment about a “two-tiered system”, do you know the white population is rushing back to gentrified public schools… That they fundraise in the hundreds of thousands… Do you know the last school my child was in before this horror of a charter, went from good to worse, but only for the brown kids, most significantly boys… There is a BIG problem, and while shutting down charters won’t solve them all, if they have come to add to the burden and worse to demean and cause damage to our kids, then HECK NO! THEY’VE GOT TO GO! I too was all for “private level education at public school costs”, but the billionaires that are directing the charter schools aren’t playing slow and steady anymore, they need a quick turn around on their next generation of factory workers and inmates ( big money maker), not to mention the awesome returns on running a charter school itself… when a problem gets this out of hand you need to start at the beginning and the beginning is that charters were an experiment for best practices to be used in the public school… They weren’t suppose to cost more or do worse, but it would seem they endeavor to both. For me, in this case, deflection would be to ignore the abuse to the kids because the person willing to help has had what looks like a justifiable issue with charters. But didn’t Senator Perkins vote for the funding increase? I could be wrong, I’m far from a politico, but I am not mistaken about what is happening at my school – IT IS CRIMINAL – LITERALLY!

    I am not against anyone, I am definitely FOR the children!

  • Michael Fiorillo

    As usual, Kitchen Sink ignores or falsifies history in order to push private schools funded with public dollars.

    Providing resources is a “strategy that hasn’t worked in the last 45 years of education reform?” No doubt Kitchen Sink is referring to the “reforms” of the mid 1970′s, when 15,000 public school teachers were laid off, class size exploded, facilities were closed, art and music were virtually eliminated, and Guidance cut way back. It took twenty years for the schools to begin to come back from those “reforms.” And if his/her corporate patrons – who, by the way, were the one’s who insisted on schoolchildren and teachers providing their pound of flesh 35 years ago – have their way, the public schools are certain to see similarly vicious “reforms” in the near future.

    Yes, he/she has a very strange idea of “reform.” Sort of what the Republicans – and too many Democrats – have in mind when they talk about “Social Security reform.”

    And here are some others that this anonymous conduit for charter propaganda supports: real estate grabs where public facilities are handed over to private entities, diverting public money away from the schools into privately-run and managed boutiques chools that cream students, counsel out others, and restrict enrollment by special needs students and English Language Learners.

    Keep it going, KS: if you get your way, we’ll all be experiencing your Brave New World of the 19th century.

  • http://www.sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    MF, I’m talking about reforms beginning with the heroic attempt to wrest community control of schools from the central bureaucracy in Ocean Hill-Brownsville. That was a good idea. But what followed was 40 years of bickering, one chancellor’s regulation after another as the city struggled with its own education federalism debate. That debate is still unresolved as we have this clunky mayoral control system in the place of the founders’ increased executive authority and separation of powers. I’m talking about reform of curriculum and work rules – reforms that have left thousands of dollars worth of brand new books sitting in school basements across the city, unusable because the district curriculum du jour was replaced before they even arrived, and that have left us counting 1/2 minutes added on to the school day. I’m neutral on these reforms – many of them have been good ideas – but my point is, they haven’t worked.

    I’m no historian, but I bet Diane Ravitch would agree that the system has always worked fairly well for white people. It was in Manhattan in District 2 that principals first started having more control over their budget, spending more in professional development and less on administration, for example. Why is that? It isn’t something about black and brown people, because the ideas actually started in East Harlem with Anthony Alvarado. I don’t want to put words in anyone’s mouth, but I believe these (Manhattan’s Upper East Side in my example) are the gentrified schools the Parent above is describing.

    As for your comment, Parent, you and your family deserve justice and fair treatment. I would never try to invalidate your experience, though I disagree with some of your conclusions about it. If there are abuses going on at your child’s charter school, you have an avenue for complaints: contact the board of trustees, then the authorizer if you do not have a satisfactory answer. Make sure you document everything that you are complaining about. The recent hubbub about ENYP highlights that parent voices make a difference. Much has been made of the fact that parents complained a year ago and only now is there action at that school, but remember the DOE was taking action last year and giving the school a chance to clean up its act.

    You seem to be making a snap judgment about charter schools based on your experience. There’s nothing wrong with doing that, but here in the public sphere I’m sure I speak for others when I say I am left curious about more details of your experience. If you’d be willing to share, what is it that makes your child’s school experience resonant of a factory or prison?

  • Michael Fiorillo

    KS,

    It’s incredible that you extoll the virtues of 60′s vintage community control, when the billionaire patrons of charter schools have, through mayoral control in targeted cities, totally disenfranchised parents from the governance of the schools. That’s real chutzpah.

    You and the other ed deformers, who always insist that money is not an answer- except, of course, when it comes to their own business fiefdoms, where they have cash registers for brains – continue to ignore the bank/insurer/Wall St. imposed cutbacks that are a big, though not total, legacy of the multi-decade crisis facing urban public schools.

    Why is that? Could it be that it interferes with the master narrative of ed deform: set up the teachers as straw men, to take the blame for an underfunded, singled-out sector amid the general crises (health, deindustrialization, unemployment, etc.) facing poor and working class people? Oh, but according to ed deform propaganda, education is somehow supposed to magically solve all those oroblems, if only we privatize the schools, eliminate local control and bust the unions.

    What’s the answer to all the crises caused by the unfettered greed of your patrons? Why, more market fundamentalism, of course!

  • J.P. Charter Parent

    I am a proud mom of my son’s charter school WE have a choice not your comments! And I’m glad that there are people out their to help our charter parents learn about there rights on Charter schools. So that OUR children will be protected in every means that’s necessary. Thank You Mr.Sen. Perkins for your support and we will be looking forward to your visit!

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    If you read my comments over, MF, you’ll see that your characterization of my views is patently inaccurate. I’m for MORE funding for schools, MORE support for teachers, and resolving the elements of schooling that can be fixed BEFORE worrying about (though not discounting entirely) the ill effects of the cycle of poverty. The latter will have us spinning our wheels and going nowhere.

  • Concerned C.P.

    It’s so sad that this society never wants to see reality when it comes to their childrens future! Whether it’s public or private whatever the case might be. What really counts is that the children are being educated in LIFE!!! And we have alot of privilages now a days to what we want in life especially when it comes to OUR CHILDREN!!! I also will be looking forward to meeting MR. Perkins when he comes down to brooklyn.

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