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Teachers union and city schools heads testify on budget cuts

Teachers union president Michael Mulgrew and Chancellor Joel Klein each offered three ideas for improving Governor Paterson’s budget today. In keeping with their chilly relationship, none of the proposals overlapped.

Testifying before New York State legislators on the Assembly’s Ways and Means Committee and the Senate’s Finance Committee, Mulgrew touted the idea of a retirement incentive. Lowering the age or number of work years at which teachers could retire and receive their full pensions would allow roughly 25,000 teachers to retire, Mulgrew said, saving the city about $300 million.

While retirement incentives are popular among teachers, fiscal watchdog organizations like the Citizens Budget Commission say raising, not lowering, the retirement age is the best way to reduce the city’s staggering pension costs.

Mulgrew also said he’d like to see the Department of Education’s administrative costs trimmed.

“The DOE could also save millions by cutting out high-priced consultants and bureaucracy, halting its plan to reorganize the school support structure yet again, reassessing its vendor contracts and, perhaps most importantly, moving into permanent assignments hundreds of teachers who are now working in the so-called “ATR” pool,” he said.

Klein’s solutions to the $442 million proposed cut to education centered on changes that have typically been negotiated with the teachers union, not the state legislature. The chancellor called for ending the seniority rule that could force the DOE the lay off its newest teachers first and for ending salary payments to teachers who have been in the Absent Teacher Reserve pool for a long period without finding new work.

“The school system cannot continue spending so much money on an indefinite and unconditional unemployment benefit at a time when it is struggling to maintain vital programs and services in our schools,” he said.

The UFT and the city agree they’ve reached a standstill in contract negotiations and are waiting for the state’s Public Employment Relations Board to certify the impasse, making it likely that issues surrounding the ATR pool and retirement incentives will be settled by a state arbitrator — along with the city and UFT — rather than the legislature.

  • Jeff S

    There goes the incompetent, arrogant, unqualified lawyer masquerading as a world expert on education with his blame the teachers and blame the ATR. Of course he won’t admit that among the reasons for the number of teachers in the ATR pool who can’t gfind jobs was his bitrd brained change in budgeting charging each school’s budget for the actual salary of a teacher rather than treating all teachers as 1 unit. Of course a new Principal, many of who are graduates of the Leadership Academy and lack the proper experience anyway, would rather hire two+ new teachers rather than one on maximuym who might also be in a position to see just how incompetent this new Principal is and how little he or she has the experience to run a school.

    In addition we have problems such as this. A ve3ry experienced math teacher who has taught math for many years in a very traditional manner tuyrning out scientists, doctors and the lot, is excessed because of the closing of one of the schools. He goes on an interview with one of these new Principals who tells him he wants him to teach one of these contgroversial fuzzy math courses that have ruined math education throughout the country and turned out many high school graduates incapable of doing the rigorous work in a university level math course. Of course, this teacher would not want to be forced into such an inane program. I know for a fact this is going on throughouty the city not only in math but in other subject areas as well. What a waste.

  • http://southbronschool.blogspot.com Bronx Teacher

    “The school system cannot continue spending so much money on an indefinite and unconditional no bid contracts at a time when it is struggling to maintain vital programs”

    Fixed

    copy and paste:

    Southbronxschool.blogspot.com/2010/02/mulgrew-grew-set.html

  • http://edintheapple peter

    Issues like the ATR pool and retirement incentives will NOT be decided by PERB arbitrators, changes in layoff rules and retirement require legislation, and the politcal reality is that legislation requires the support of the City and the UFT.

    There is no timeframe, under the Triborough doctrine the former contract remains in effect while the new contract is negotiated, and, a fact-finding report is not binding. Ultimately the City and the UFT will have to come to an agreement, it could take weeks, or months, or many months. During the Dinkins adminstation the contract was not resolved until 18 months after the expiration.

  • Invictus

    Peter, what Klein/City Hall wants is the beating heart at the center of the Union. To give up seniority and job security would in fact be guillotining the entire concept of a Union. I doubt that this will ever come to pass, nor any other umbrella unions in NYS will allow their district politicians to backstab them in Albany.

    Perhaps Klein and his Point Man are just talking while they sleep.

  • JM

    Watch out for law-makers and back-stabbers in times of fiscal chaos. The debts and fiscal horrors are not comparable to the 70′s, but more to Argentina in 2000.

    And the first thing to go in extraordinarily difficult times is “our rights”…and I think we are unfortunately going to be in a very bad situation, as a union, at the end.

    I don’t think we can look to past negotiations and “the typical NYCBOE/UFT chess match”, and assume all will be ok. This is a very scary situation, and we need to stick together and protect our contract and rights. There is no reason that, when the too big to fails were NOT HELD ACCOUNTABLE and collected billions in bonuses, that we shouldn’t be rewarded…

    Or maybe the “too big to fail” corporate CEO’s should be punished, and we should be protected NO MATTER what the extremity of the situation. Anything else is illegal.

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