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Jamaica HS union leader says teachers saw closure coming

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James Eterno, Jamaica High School's UFT chapter leader. (GothamSchools Flickr)

The head of the union chapter at Jamaica High School said teachers there have been expecting the school’s closure for years and criticized the city for planning to open new small schools without offering help to the struggling large one.

James Eterno, a history teacher at Jamaica for 24 years, said teachers anticipated bad news after the school received a D on its progress report this year. But signs that the 1,500-student high school was in trouble had been apparent for years, he said.

In 2007, Jamaica was placed on a citywide list of schools labeled “persistently dangerous,” and letters were sent home to students and parents informing them of the designation. Enrollment dropped, Eterno said, and when Jamaica became the last choice of eighth-grade students applying to high schools, a new population of students who were less enthusiastic about school entered the school. (Eterno laid out this story in a community section post about Queens high schools back in September.) 

Of the school’s roughly 500 ninth grade students, slightly less than half did not apply to the school but were placed there after they moved to Queens, sometimes from other countries and knowing little English, Eterno said.

“What [the city] should have done and what they could have done was to give us the funding, let us lower class size, let us have reasonable guidance caseloads and let us see if it works,” Eterno said. “Then if it doesn’t work, then you can make the case to close us down.”

Eterno, who is running for president of the teachers union this spring, said he learned of Jamaica’s proposed closure this morning in a meeting with the school’s principal and superintendent. Administrators told him the DOE planned to open two new small schools in Jamaica’s building next year: a high school and a school serving grades 6-12.

A spokesman for the DOE, Will Havemann, said the department would not comment on schools going into Jamaica next year. He said new schools opening in the fall will be announced in early 2010.

“We have a record of taking buildings that have a hard time attracting students and turning them into places where students want to go and we have every intention of continuing that work at Jamaica,” Havemann said.

Listing the overcrowded high schools in the area, Eterno wondered where eighth-grade students who would have otherwise gone to Jamaica would enroll next year. In their first year, small schools typically have incoming classes of just over 100 students. Jamaica has five times that many in its current ninth grade.

“Two start-up schools at Jamaica next year won’t do a darn thing to dent the overcrowding. So how does that help anybody?” Eterno said.

Havemann said the two high schools placed in Jamaica would be designed with the borough’s overcrowding in mind.

“We believe that by putting new and better options in the building, we’ll be able to better serve students and reduce the enrollment burden,” he said.

  • sharmin piancca

    This is absolutely unacceptable news. As a student attending jamaica high school for about 2 and a half years now and maintaining an A average as part of the Gateway program, I would personally like to testify against all so called ”acceptable reasons” behind closing this school down. Jamaica high school is NOT a dangerous school. the DOE, by labeling us as one hurt our incoming students more than they admit. The students and staff who are actually attending and working at jamaica high school know whether the label ”dangerous” was acceptable or correct. furthermore, it is NOT the students’ fault that they were not provided with adequate resources to pass and excel in their classes. What the DOE should have done is given us the proper resources and then decided whether it was working or not. Frankly, the students should not be blamed for the DOE’s incompetence. The real failure here has proven to be the DOE for their unreasonable decisions and for not doing their job properly.I hope they remember WE ARE the future.

  • sharmin piancca

    This is absolutely unacceptable news. As a student attending jamaica high school for about 2 and a half years now and maintaining an A average as part of the Gateway program, I would personally like to testify against all so called ”acceptable reasons” behind closing this school down. Jamaica high school is NOT a dangerous school. the DOE, by labeling us as one hurt our incoming students more than they admit. The students and staff who are actually attending and working at jamaica high school know whether the label ”dangerous” was acceptable or correct. furthermore, it is NOT the students’ fault that they were not provided with adequate resources to pass and excel in their classes. What the DOE should have done is given us the proper resources and then decided whether it was working or not. Frankly, the students should not be blamed for the DOE’s incompetence. The real failure here has proven to be the DOE for their unreasonable decisions and for not doing their job properly.I hope they remember WE ARE the future.

  • Doreen Mohammed

    I attend Jamaica High School & it definitely doesn’t deserve to be closed down. It’s a magnificent & excellent institution with an amazing hsitory. I’m a junior in the intensive Gateway program & I have a 98. 6 A+ average. I’m working my way to being admitted into an excellent college, like many of the previous Gateway students who attended Jamaica High. I plan to apply & get into an Ivy League, like Columbia or Cornell, maybe even NYU. Just 2 years ago, a boy from Gateway got into Harvard on a Coca-Cola scholarship. Our school has awesome potential but it seriously needs some funding in order to achieve successfully. We used to have AP Chemistry & AP Spanish but budget cuts took those away from us. We used to have 6 College Now classes, but now we only have 4 and 1 of them isn’t even properly funded. The Boys Bowling Team still exists but they had to pay in order to be able to practice from their own pockets. Our school barely has paper for us to use & the copiers don’t always work. In my art class, we only recently got new colored pencils since all along we had used short broken ones. We don’t even have a music teacher anymore. Mr. Rule, an awesome law & AP US history teacher, isn’t here anymore. Also we are going to lose Ms. Merioles, who’s an great biology teacher & our Medical Club advisor. We’ll lose Mr. Madramootoo, who’s a great English teacher & excellent photographer for the yearbook, also the senior advisor for Folio (yearbook). We may even lose Ms. Dibinis, a legendary & amazing Chemistry, Forensics, & Biology teacher. Despite all of these econmoic troubles, our school still manages to thrive. I was able to take AP Biology with Ms. McLean as an excellent teacher and pass the exam with a 3, despite the lack of funding causing us not to have any labs & a whole semster short. I am currently taking AP US History with Mr. Eterno and it’s my most favorite course, this man can teach & I know I will excel on that exam for sure. I’m also taking College Now Algebra & Trigonometry & plan to take on more college courses. I also intend to take AP Calculus & AP English if we still have them. I also plan to take Folio (yearbook) if it still exists because they, with Mr. Madramootoo, do an marvelous job at making magnificent yearbooks. There are plenty of students like myself in Jamaica High School, not only in the Gateway Program, who have the potential but not the resources. We get to apply for many scholarships, college trips, & beneifts as well. The problem is that we being gradually deprived of all of the benefits we deserve due to these LOUSY BUDGET CUTS!!! I won’t let Jamaica close down, I WILL FIGHT FOR MY SCHOOL!!!

  • Doreen Mohammed

    We also have a cardboard boat race, with a great educational experience with Mr. Pecorino, my Physic teacher. Our sports are terrific, especially our legendary Track Team with Mr. Coles.

  • sharmin piancca

    hats out to DOE for ruining my high school experience. congrats! you really deserve a round of applause!

  • I noticed that…

    I want to give kudos to the students of Jamaica HS for blogging their feelings about the unfairness of Klein’s decision of closing their school. To these students get the others students to keep blogging their feelings, opinion, frustration and rage on this blogsite. Let the mayor and Klein know the shame of their decision against Jamaica HS.

    Fight for your school; fight for your education; and fight for your teachers.

  • Jamaica Teacher

    I agree with I noticed that.

  • Barbie Boy

    Last night I was watching New York 1 and received news that Jamaica high school will phase out and close its doors in 2013. I was told that it will close out to make space for what Bloomberg calls small schools. I think small schools would be a brilliant idea if only it would work, but guess what it doesn’t. The high school of Collaborative Education is a perfect example. This small school along with Jamaica is phasing out. In 2008 a small school called Queens Collegiate opened up in our building. Queens Collegiate looks like an intelligent school, and the pupils there seem to us Jamaica students as very important students because of the technology that they have in there classrooms and there trips to Washington D.C. and Boston. But what I learned is that they are the ones missing out on the activities large schools , academically, have to offer. Such as variety in classes. In Jamaica high school I’m able to part take in a medical science program and take law courses . They are also missing out on extracurricular activities such as cheer leading,dance, sports teams, clubs, such as the folio and medical club. One thing about Queens Collegiate is that it is so small it does not offer any AP classes when a school like Jamaica offers 5, therefore graduates from Jamaica can go to college with college credits unlike students from Queens Collegiate. As you can see small schools are missing out and don’t work, and if they did work why would Bloomberg and Klein have to shut them down. SO DON’T SHUT DOWN ONE GREAT SCHOOL, JUST TO CREATE THREE BAD SCHOOLS.

  • insiderknowledge

    Its a shame that all of these excellent teachers the students mentioned will now have their names and reputations sullied as ATRS and hear from the new teach for america crowd how they deserve to be fired so they can get jobs.. In all of this data driven madness does the students who actually receive the education opinions matter? What truer form of evaluation exists then whether or not the student felt you did your job to the best of your ability?

  • I noticed that…

    To Barbie Boy, You are very astute! Large comprehensive schools have so much to offer. The variety of programs for multicultural population of students is what makes a large school much more favorable than a small school. I teach in a small school and it is impossible to offer pre-calculus because we have so many level 1 students and the few students who are candicates for a pre-calculus course won’t be offered the program because in a small school PROGRAMMING IS AN ISSUE! We have AP English as a course, but the students in the class do NOT all qualify. Since programming is an issue, some students are placed in the AP English even though they are level 1/2 readers. PROGRAMMING ISSUE! I would like to reiterate what you said about shutting down one great school for three bad [small] schools.

    Bloomberg/Klein created these small schools and hizzoner’s mantra during the 2005 and 2009 campaign that graduation rate went up, attendance is up, safety incidents are down, and parents have more options in deciding the long list of these boutique schools. How many small schools are closing? How many small schools are getting extra resource and fundings so they don’t end up closing? How many small schools are cooking the books with these bogus credit recovery programs? How many small schools are fudging the attendance rate? Did you know that a student only has to be in the school 45 minutes and it is counted as attendance? What is the true attendance rate of these small schools? How many untenured teachers in the small schools are being forced through strong administrative suggestions to change their students’ grades? How many small schools have an in school varsity/sport programs when these small schools usually have to go to the large high school to be on a sports team? How many special needs students’ IEPs are changed to meet the needs of the small schools (PROGRAMMING ISSUE AGAIN) instead of meeting the needs of the special needs students? HOW MANY STUDENTS IN THE SMALL SCHOOLS HAVE RAMPANT SOCIAL PROMOTION AND ARE GIVEN (NOT EARNED) DIPLOMAS THAT ARE SO MEANINGLESS THAT THESE STUDENTS REPEAT HIGH SCHOOL IN 6 OF CUNY’S COMMUNITY COLLEGES?

    It is time for the students of Jamaica HS to be investigative reports and go out there get some more information and get the FACTS, the TRUE FACTS and disseminate, disseminate, disseminate! Let’s call this OPERATION SHAME AND BLAME ON THE DOE! The students of Jamaica HS have the power to bring Jamaica HS back to its glory. Good Luck, I’m rooting for you and for all the teachers at Jamaica HS.

  • barbie boy

    ty. it is time for us to find out the true facts.

  • Jeff S

    We saw this nonsense all through Brooklyn. And of course the point was made above. A large comprehensive school can offer all sorts of programs, AP courses, extra curricular activities. These small schools either can’t or they are forced to put students into so called AP classes who clearly are unqualified but they need them for numbers.

    There is not one iota of evidence showing these small schools have improved education for their students. And what happens is the trouble makers find their ways into other schools starting the cycled of decay in those schools. But why let the facts get in the way of the truth.

  • reelnalive

    if they close the school im snuffin someone -.-

  • http://www.lawandjusticempu.webs.com Galen Williams

    We’re not a bad school, it’s just the things that happen around the school. It’s absolutely crazy that they would close the school. With the money problems in New York State, why close this school down and spend unnecessary money to put two schools in. It’s just stupid. If Jamaica closes down, there will not be many votes for the people in charge for the next election.

  • Afsan

    I am a Junior Gateway student at Jamaica High School. I will graduate with my classes in June, 2011. I am an immigrant in this country. I’ve been in US for about two years and a half. I have been in this school since I moved and I am an active peer tutor in Jamaica High School in Math and Science. I have received a Congressional Achievement Award from US. House OF REPRESENTATIVES for showing academic achievement and excellence in Peer Tutoring session last year. If I didn’t get help from my teachers and guidance I would’ve never acquired this award promptly. I am one “OF THE MANY” evidences that Jamaica High School is not an unsuccessful school.
    When I heard about the propose of phasing out of Jamaica High School by June, 2013 I was thwarted both intellectually and physically. This is a complete inexpedient decision of Department of Education. I do not accord with this inequitable decisiveness.
    The Gateway Program, the advanced academic program of Jamaica High School, has been active since 1960s. This program prepares us to excel on standardized exams such as Regents and to succeed in college. Last year Gateway Program launched a peer tutoring program so that we can help the students in their weaker subjects and also gain some personal teaching experience in our high school career. As a result of this more students who attend in peer tutoring are passing their classes with adequate grades and doing substantial in their regents. With all of these great features, the school funding is so low that sometimes we do not have enough copy paper to copy handouts. I’ve seen this in many of my classes. Sometimes even if we do have some handouts, the printing is too small for us to read. This is because of the numbness of the DOE towards this school. Last year in my science lab we had to use secondhand test tubes and funnels which had been being used for last several years. I remember when I was doing the TITRATION LAB in the chemistry lab where I never got the lab with 0% error. This was not because of my procedure but the spoiled chemicals which were used by other classes in the school for many years. I completed that lab minimum of 10 times, but I never had a precise result. With all of these difficulties in school why DOE attempt to phase out the school, when they failed to provide the school with sufficient resources and funding?
    In the spring of this year Jamaica High School received a grade of “B” from the Annual Quality Review. This fall, Department of Education issued a grade of “D” to Jamaica High School and proposed to close out, this is totally absurd.

  • Latisha S.

    I am a student currently in my junior year of Jamaica High school and I am deeply sadden by the proposal of closing down my school. Just when Jamaica High school is showing improvements in graduation rates, the city wants to shut it down. Give Jamaica High School a chance! Despite our huge budget cuts, we are pulling through and progressing. That shows that Jamaica HS has potential to achieve city standard (possibly exceed!)  To fold Jamaica High school is not the solution. If the DOE and the mayor wants to really accomplish something, give us MORE funding and work along with the school and watch it thrive. Then, the city could use Jamaica High School as an example of a large high school that persevered and acquired excellent status in academics thanks to the city’s assistance. This school is not bad school as people lead it on to be. Don’t leave us in the dust Mayor Bloomberg and Joel Klein. We didn’t come this far only to see our school cease. 

  • Kathy

    I graduated from Jamaica High School in 1994. Leaving Ryan Middle School in 1991, I was warned by classmates that if I went to Jamaica, horrible things would happen to me. Thankfully, I ignored their warnings and entered Jamaica in 1991, and it was the best decision I ever made in my life. The school’s unsavory reputation was just that: a reputation. The reality was that students were given amazing opportunities to learn, to be exposed to people from a myriad of backgrounds, and to make lasting friendships. I was more than prepared for college thanks to Jamaica, and had I paid attention to the school’s reputation, I would have missed all that. Many of the wonderful teachers I had are still there, and I know from firsthand accounts that Jamaica continues to offer students the same opportunities that my classmates and I had fifteen years ago.

    My neighbor currently attends Jamaica and is enrolled in the selective Gateway program. No one in her middle school had even told her that the program existed. Rather than attend Jamaica, her teachers were advising her to apply to small schools that she would have to travel nearly an hour to reach, but she chose Jamaica instead. She’s glad that she did, and doesn’t want to attend any other school. She heard all the same sorts of stories that I had heard years before, but she entered Jamaica in spite of her concern that the warnings would come true. Since starting at Jamaica, she has blossomed into a scholar, and she and her family are so impressed with the education she is receiving at Jamaica that her younger cousin and several younger friends applied to attend Jamaica beginning in September. Contrary to what the statistics and the school’s reputation suggest, she’s getting a fantastic education and loves going to school — as do her classmates.

    Jamaica is a special place. The interaction between current students and alumni is one of the things that I think makes Jamaica special — how many schools really exist where alumni of all ages clearly love their school and embrace each other as family, regardless of what year they graduated? I once saw a 90+ year old nearly leap with excitement when he learned we shared Jamaica as our alma mater. Current and former students alike (along with current and past teachers) celebrated Jamaica’s new status as a historic landmark last summer, and the hundreds of attendees were there to celebrate not just the building but the school.

    Would this love of school exist in a smaller school in that great building? I doubt it. Would students receive a great education in a small school? Possibly. But there are no guarantees, and students have been receiving a fantastic education at Jamaica High School for over 100 years. Students are still receiving fantastic educations at Jamaica today. Some students struggle with academics due to learning challenges, others enter the school without mastering skills at lower grades, and others simply are challenged by the need to begin learning English as high school students. Regardless, they all receive an education at Jamaica. What kind of home will these students find in smaller, more “selective” high schools? And if the city has the financial resources to launch and fund several new schools in the Jamaica building, why hasn’t it allowed Jamaica’s current students to benefit from those resources? In spite of funding cuts, graduation rates and test scores are improving, and to close the school without first dedicating the resources to support the teachers’ efforts is shameful. Instead of providing resources to a school striving to improve itself, the city has reduced the number of teachers in the school and left some classes this year without permanent teachers as of late in the fall term. The students, teachers and families most affected by the city’s decision to close the school are right to be infuriated and to feel betrayed by the city. Jamaica should be kept open to offer all students an education while also providing all the things a large school can offer with proper funding that a small “academy” can’t: a wider variety of athletic teams, varied extracurricular activities, more diversity, and a wider range of elective courses. The school needs the city’s support, not its condemnation.

  • Afsan Q.

    CORRECTION for my previous comment:
    The Gateway program was launched in Jamaica High School in 1986. It has been a magnificent program by guiding the students to transcend in their career and do something better for future.

  • Bob Cox

    I hope that they keep Jam-Rock open and why can’t people put their real names (BarbieBoi)

  • Dr. Bonner

    i saw the story on the news and researched it. I believe the mayor has an agenda for the schol system I hope the school can fight and win.The first step is on dec.16 at jamaica high school.
    Also if the students could use proper gramar, and put their real names and got serious about a serious issue to the commnunity.

    Sincerly, Dr. B
    May the force be with us

  • Barbie Boy

    afsan is full of him self ” i never got o% error because the chemicals were contaminated.” wow

  • Queen B.

    As Sharmin Piancca stated in earlier comments, I also give a standing ovation to the DOE for their inadmissible reasons toward the closure of Jamaica High School. As a sophmore with an average of a B it has come to my attention that looking on the outside in the low grade on our progress report doesn’t represent all of what is being accomplished at the school. I find it very imperceivable to go through so much procedure to enter in small schools (keeping in mind city-wide schools are already overcrowded) instead of actually helping our struggling school. Phasing students out won’t do anything except anger many (based on feedback i got from many fellow peers) and effect participation of learning. On top of that, for the students that want to transfer due to this imbecile proposal, they don’t get to choose what school to go to. This is taking away our rights as students because we were always allowed to choose and admit to schools that we chose of. To make a long story short, this proposal is preposterous to say the least. Please take this into consideration along with the negative feedback from many other people that are dissatisfied with the proposal…..pleasent day to you.

    Sincerly, Queen B.

  • Ali, Khawaja

    What [the city] should have done and what they could have done was to give us the funding, let us lower class size, let us have reasonable guidance caseloads and let us see if it works,” Eterno said. “Then if it doesn’t work, then you can make the case to close us down.”

    I agree with this the most because it makes da most sense. How can u no somthing is goin 2 work when you nvr gave it a cjance 2 work. We have a lot of kids in our school rather than cut down fundings the city should give us more funding. In QC kids have laptops, smart boards and we dont even have enough money 4 paper.

  • Afsan Q.

    I wasn’t pointing on myself. I was trying to put myself as an example. There are many other savvy students in Jamaica who suffer in their classes because of lack of instruments or resources.

  • Mohammad Khan

    I’m a junior at Jamaica High School. Although I’ve only attended this school for two years, I have benefitted from academic support; I was not always successful at math, but my teachers’ dedication has helped me improve. I’m writing to express my concerns about the proposed phasing out of my school by June, 2013; In Jamaica High School, the Gateway program is an advanced academic program designed to guide students to enroll in many different activities and help them excel in high school as well as in college. Jamaica High School have decades of history and if our school is phased out, all our history will be lost. Jamaica High School is a magnificent school.

  • Joseph

    These testimonials are utter nonsense. You’re a bunch of bleeding hearts! Jamaica is a living nightmare. It was a welcome relief to hear that it will soon cease to exist. Morons who are convinced that they have half a brain (and it’s considerably less) come out of and work for that institution. The school should have been abolished a long time ago. Hail, Bloomberg! >;)

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