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	<title>Comments on: Would a UFT endorsement for Thompson make a difference?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous seer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous seer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UFT support could have made a significant difference for Thompson, especially if they had financed a major ad campaign pointing out how Bloomberg&#039;s claims of success in education are all smoke and mirrors.  Thompson had no ad budget so all those claims went unanswered. But doing so might also have risked weakening the UFT&#039;s perceived case for another salary hike.  For a long time, Randi colluded with the mayor in the fiction of better achievement results, probably in her effort to boost the contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UFT support could have made a significant difference for Thompson, especially if they had financed a major ad campaign pointing out how Bloomberg&#8217;s claims of success in education are all smoke and mirrors.  Thompson had no ad budget so all those claims went unanswered. But doing so might also have risked weakening the UFT&#8217;s perceived case for another salary hike.  For a long time, Randi colluded with the mayor in the fiction of better achievement results, probably in her effort to boost the contract.</p>
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		<title>By: I noticed that...</title>
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		<dc:creator>I noticed that...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 23:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mom who cares...

All employees whether they work for the private or public sector are entitled to raises.  Without raises people would not be able to deal with the cost of living (unfortunately the raises are so low that it is hard for certain groups) and the inflation rate.  I always wondered why no one complains when CEOs received millions and millions from the government as a bailout and those CEOs decided to use the bailout to pay themselves their million dollar bonuses while people lost their life savings and pension.  Yet, let&#039;s complain that teachers who have masters degrees or PhDs and given a small raise of 4%-4% (it still hasn&#039;t been decided) that would bring the teachers&#039; salary to level of acceptable pittance where teachers deal with 130-150 HS students on a daily basis.  Teachers do it because they love teaching and seeing students success.  Listen Mom who cares, teachers deserve more than the proposed raise.  It is fair and just!  So before you think that the raise is too much, think about the CEOs in Lehman Bros, AIG, Enron, who got those outrageous bonuses and did not care about the employees who lost their income, benefits, pension and the means to support their children.  Or do you feel there is justice in corporate america?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mom who cares&#8230;</p>
<p>All employees whether they work for the private or public sector are entitled to raises.  Without raises people would not be able to deal with the cost of living (unfortunately the raises are so low that it is hard for certain groups) and the inflation rate.  I always wondered why no one complains when CEOs received millions and millions from the government as a bailout and those CEOs decided to use the bailout to pay themselves their million dollar bonuses while people lost their life savings and pension.  Yet, let&#8217;s complain that teachers who have masters degrees or PhDs and given a small raise of 4%-4% (it still hasn&#8217;t been decided) that would bring the teachers&#8217; salary to level of acceptable pittance where teachers deal with 130-150 HS students on a daily basis.  Teachers do it because they love teaching and seeing students success.  Listen Mom who cares, teachers deserve more than the proposed raise.  It is fair and just!  So before you think that the raise is too much, think about the CEOs in Lehman Bros, AIG, Enron, who got those outrageous bonuses and did not care about the employees who lost their income, benefits, pension and the means to support their children.  Or do you feel there is justice in corporate america?</p>
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		<title>By: Mom who cares about the kids</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mom who cares about the kids</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 22:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great. So the UFT gets their raises and the kids get screwed.  Is that justice?  I thought that teachers were supposed to care about the quality of our schools, not just their pay checks.  Its a sad day for this city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great. So the UFT gets their raises and the kids get screwed.  Is that justice?  I thought that teachers were supposed to care about the quality of our schools, not just their pay checks.  Its a sad day for this city.</p>
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		<title>By: rick mangone</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick mangone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The UFT was right in staying neutral in the mayor&#039;s race. While the majority of members will vote for Thompson, it made no sense to endorse his candidacy. The UFT leadership responded correctly on it&#039;s members behalf by staying out of this race. While the members hatred for Klein and his policies would be served by endorsing Thompson, we are in a much stronger position at the bargaining table should Bloomberg win as expected. Weingarten and Mulgrew have steered the correct course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UFT was right in staying neutral in the mayor&#8217;s race. While the majority of members will vote for Thompson, it made no sense to endorse his candidacy. The UFT leadership responded correctly on it&#8217;s members behalf by staying out of this race. While the members hatred for Klein and his policies would be served by endorsing Thompson, we are in a much stronger position at the bargaining table should Bloomberg win as expected. Weingarten and Mulgrew have steered the correct course.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:52:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lets get back to the topic of the post.

UFT endorsements were very important in the Comptoller and Public Advocate races because the candidates had similar views, rather than teachers votes scattered among the host of candidates the endorsees benefited greatly. This not true at the mayoral race, I don&#039;t know a single teacher who didn&#039;t make up their mind a long time ago. Perhaps if the UFT endorsed months ago they could have influenced non-teacher voters, maybe. It&#039;s always about risk versu reward.


If a contract emerges w/i the next few weeks most teachers will be satisfied, and whether or not one emerges members wi ll express their pleasure/displeasure in the union elections in 3-4 months. 


This democracy thing has it&#039;s upsides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lets get back to the topic of the post.</p>
<p>UFT endorsements were very important in the Comptoller and Public Advocate races because the candidates had similar views, rather than teachers votes scattered among the host of candidates the endorsees benefited greatly. This not true at the mayoral race, I don&#8217;t know a single teacher who didn&#8217;t make up their mind a long time ago. Perhaps if the UFT endorsed months ago they could have influenced non-teacher voters, maybe. It&#8217;s always about risk versu reward.</p>
<p>If a contract emerges w/i the next few weeks most teachers will be satisfied, and whether or not one emerges members wi ll express their pleasure/displeasure in the union elections in 3-4 months. </p>
<p>This democracy thing has it&#8217;s upsides.</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John,

Yanks for signing the Declaration of Independence.

I appreciate your point, but let&#039;s not get overworked or too righteous on this.  For the record, Eban&#039;s comment on missing opportunities was not a generalization about Palestinians or Arabs or Semites or followers of Islam.  It was about Yasir Arafat and his penchant for missing opportunities to reach agreements with Israel (while stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the PLO).

Give it a rest, vote and enjoy the rest of the day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John,</p>
<p>Yanks for signing the Declaration of Independence.</p>
<p>I appreciate your point, but let&#8217;s not get overworked or too righteous on this.  For the record, Eban&#8217;s comment on missing opportunities was not a generalization about Palestinians or Arabs or Semites or followers of Islam.  It was about Yasir Arafat and his penchant for missing opportunities to reach agreements with Israel (while stealing hundreds of millions of dollars from the PLO).</p>
<p>Give it a rest, vote and enjoy the rest of the day.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 10:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will not get into a flaming war with you and others because it would serve no purpose. What I will tell you is this. When someone groups an entire group together to sum up an attitude or general view without knowledge of that groups indiividuality, that is racist. Secondly, you took the word Arabs out and threw in Palastinians because you just read something on the Internet not really knowing it was wrong because it fit some point you aret trying to make. Are groups of people interchangable?  What if I am Palestinian?  If you don&#039;t see at all what I am saying then I a little bit sadder today</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will not get into a flaming war with you and others because it would serve no purpose. What I will tell you is this. When someone groups an entire group together to sum up an attitude or general view without knowledge of that groups indiividuality, that is racist. Secondly, you took the word Arabs out and threw in Palastinians because you just read something on the Internet not really knowing it was wrong because it fit some point you aret trying to make. Are groups of people interchangable?  What if I am Palestinian?  If you don&#8217;t see at all what I am saying then I a little bit sadder today</p>
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		<title>By: Fred Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fred Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And to adapt another of Eban&#039;s observations and apply it to NYC politics:  If Mayor Bloomberg proposed the world was flat, he would immediately have 50 votes of support in the City Council.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to adapt another of Eban&#8217;s observations and apply it to NYC politics:  If Mayor Bloomberg proposed the world was flat, he would immediately have 50 votes of support in the City Council.</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher In Bronx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher In Bronx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:10:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Racist? You have got to be kidding! This is quote is attributed to Abba Eban after the Geneva Peace Conference with Arab countries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Racist? You have got to be kidding! This is quote is attributed to Abba Eban after the Geneva Peace Conference with Arab countries.</p>
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		<title>By: I noticed that...</title>
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		<dc:creator>I noticed that...</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teacher in the Bronx:  I, too, am uncomfortable and bothered by the comment.  There was no need for you to refer to particular race when dealing with inner-city issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teacher in the Bronx:  I, too, am uncomfortable and bothered by the comment.  There was no need for you to refer to particular race when dealing with inner-city issues.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hancock</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hancock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Teacher in Bronx- What?  Please explain that racist comment so I can feel a little bit better about you being a teacher (though I highly doubt it)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teacher in Bronx- What?  Please explain that racist comment so I can feel a little bit better about you being a teacher (though I highly doubt it)</p>
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		<title>By: Teacher In Bronx</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teacher In Bronx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just like the Palestinians, the UFT never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just like the Palestinians, the UFT never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.</p>
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