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Mulgrew tells Assem. Hoyt to go back to school on edu reforms

Teachers union president Michael Mulgrew dismissed proposed legislation that would overhaul New York State’s teacher tenure and charter cap laws.

Mulgrew criticized Assemblyman Sam Hoyt’s bill in an interview with GothamSchools on Saturday, after delivering an address to approximately 3,000 parents assembled for the United Federation of Teachers’ annual parent outreach conference.

Proposed to make New York State’s bid for Race to the Top money more competitive, Hoyt’s bill contains a variety of measures, almost all of which the union has opposed. In addition to abolishing the state’s charter cap, the bill would increase the number of years a teacher must work before being considered for tenure and would lift the ban on using students’ test scores as a factor in tenure decisions.

“I think Mr. Hoyt should spend some time with people who understand education,” Mulgrew said. “I am always leery of those who propose education reforms who have never spent time in a classroom.”

Mulgrew would not elaborate on how forcefully the UFT plans to fight the bill.

Last year, the state and city teachers unions threw their political weight behind the ban on linking teacher tenure to student achievement, successfully lobbying Albany to insert the provision into the state’s budget. In recent months, lawmakers and activists have revived the ban as a political issue, suggesting that it may disqualify the state from receiving the elite federal stimulus funds.

Joe Williams, executive director of Democrats for Education Reform, a group that supports many of the Hoyt bill’s provisions, said that criticism of any education policy not originating with teachers or the union is evidence that the debate has become mired in politics.

“Assemblyman Hoyt’s bill is mild, comparatively speaking, but shows how lame the discussion has become here,” Williams wrote in an email.

“Good people are afraid to support better public schools because they are afraid someone will accuse them of not having gone to ed school if they are caught talking about it,” he said. “It’s one of the reasons the public has lost confidence in the system and it is something we have to change if public education is going to survive.”

Policy director of the New York Charter School Association, Peter Murphy, called Mulgrew’s comments “cheap shots” and accused the UFT president of trying to evade debate.

“What Hoyt has basically done is put out a menu of ideas to get this state thinking about how we need to change education,” Murphy said.

“Will it [Hoyt's bill] pass as is?” he asked. “No, it’s going to be revised as it goes through the legislature. But it’s the start of a process.”

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    Re “Last year, the state and city teachers unions threw their political weight behind the ban on linking teacher tenure to student achievement, successfully lobbying Albany to insert the provision into the state’s budget.” :

    Last year, the unions also lobbied to freeze charter school funding. In effect, NYSUT and the UFT rewrote legislation, reducing legally entitled payments to schools that included some of their members among them.

    Would spending time with someone who understands education help me learn why the unions would do this? Is there an educationally driven reason for this lobbying?

  • QueensParent

    I think Mr. Mulgrew should “spend some time with people who understand what it means to educate children.” The UFT’s ongoing support of keeping poor and mediocre teachers standing up in front of children just to get a paycheck is shameless and a total failure of kids by adults. Or wait, I forgot. He represents adults, not children.

  • Loren Steele

    KS, what you conveniently forget to mention is that while charter school funding froze, public school funding was cut. I mean, be fair…

    QP, The city is already gaming the system to make it seem as though test scores are going up. It would be easy for them to play the same game with job security for teachers. IOW, come up with a fair system for teacher evaluation and we’ll support it. So far the DOE has not shown itself to deserve our trust.

  • EFM

    Increase the school year by a month, across the board? Is Hoyt kidding? Where is the funding for such a move going to come from? If such money existed, why wasn’t it used to retain the teachers, and school aides, that got dumped because of the budget crisis?

    As for the proposed extra month of school, just exactly what is it supposed to be filled with? I don’t see any mention of graduation standards being raised, or of revising the curriculum. Please don’t tell me it’s going to be more test prep.. Is it Hoyt’s intention to get more children to graduate on time, or to bore them into dropping out sooner?

  • mel

    Why am I not surprised?

    “Teacher’s Union Blocks Any Attempts To Improve Our Children’s Future. Steady paycheck for minimal work & accountability is far more important”

    Sounds about right

  • fred

    nobody who hasn’t been in front of thirty kids all day trying to teach in an urban area hasn’t a clue. perhaps parents should learn not to leave their children behind and see what is going on. and politicians who spent some time in school who became experts should join them. get real….

  • I noticed that…

    Please stop lumping teachers in the category of mediocre. There are a large proportion of great teachers in nyc. There a few, few teachers who don’t belong in this profession and the union and other teachers always advise them to leave the profession and seek another career. Good teachers want to work next to good teachers. By the way, no one is great. Why? Because everyone has good and bad days. I feel that the public need to focus on how parents play a tremendous part in their child’s life and because of parents’ involvement, teachers can do they job of teaching. Stop blaming the ills of society on teachers! You have mediocre politicians in office too, too long. You have mediocre principals that are protected by the DoE. You have mediocre administrators, who have never taught a day in their life, creating policies that are absurd, but Klein will protect them. I spend the entire day disciplining high schoolers who come unprepared to school (no notebook, pens, pencils, paper), on their cell phones, will teachers are trying to teach, come to school 50% of the time, but teachers are forced to give them extra credit so they can pass, curse at teachers in way that would make a drunkard sailor blush. So pardon me if there are a few mediocre teachers. What about the 90-95% of the teachers who work extremely hard under those conditions to teach student who unwilling want to learn. If you going to blame teachers, then blame everyone, too.

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    I’m with you, INT, but one of the reasons I left the classroom to start a charter school was that I felt like my work and that of most of my qualified, dedicated faculty colleagues was being dragged down by less scrupulous, less hard working and less competent colleagues – who should not have been teaching but who had job protections out the wazoo that just don’t exist in other professions.

    I understand the historical need for those job protections, but in 2009 there is great availability of means for transparency to shine a light on bad administrators, and greater accountability for those administrators.

    Loren, district funding was not cut…in 2007-08, which is what the LAW says 2009-10 charter school funding should be based on. That’s right, that’s the same law that was ignored by the legislature when passing its budget, at the behest of NYSUT and the UFT. Now if the district funding is indeed cut in 2009-10, charters are going to experience that CUT TWICE – once in 2009-10, and once in 2011-12, when we are slated to have our funding formula based on this year’s district expenditure.

    And by the way, it is my understanding (I don’t have data to back this up, but maybe some enterprising and informed reader does) that the district funding has actually been supplemented by state and federal stimulus dollars, which don’t figure into the charter formula at all, so that overall districting spending is going up, not down.

    Are you surprised to learn that charter funding is based on a two-year lag of district spending? Ask the back room deal makers in 1998 who passed the state charter law with all kinds of compromises such as this one, and including a pay raise for legislators.

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    And by the way, INT, you need to find a better administrator because all those issues you cited with your students are not things you can deal with by yourself. There needs to be a schoolwide effort to counter the anti-intellectual, anti-school ethos your kids are bringing into the building. Take advantage of the free market, do your research, and find a school leader who is working with “difficult” kids but putting supports in place for teachers. They’re out there.

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