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Is there anything that gets people’s dander up faster these days than comparisons of charter schools and traditional public schools?  On Thursday, reporter Meredith Kolodner filed a story in the Daily News on the relative performance of charter schools and what the NYC Department of Education calls “district” schools.  A fall, 2009 presentation emanating from the Department’s Office of Charter Schools, and posted on its website, reported on the charter school landscape in New York City, including the growth and location of charter schools, the composition of students attending them, the DOE’s accountability framework for evaluating charter schools, and some evidence on how charter schools were faring on the School Progress Reports, the crown jewel in the DOE’s accountability system.  (Regular readers may know that I’ve been critical of key features of the Progress Reports for elementary and middle schools.)

Kolodner drew attention to the fact that although elementary and middle school charter students had higher rates of proficiency on the state math and English Language Arts assessments this year, charter schools on average had a lower score on the progress component of the School Progress Reports.  And since the progress component makes up 60% of the overall score, charter schools also had lower overall scores on the Progress Reports than did district schools.  She quoted Patrick Sullivan, an appointed member of the Panel for Educational Policy that the DOE describes as its governance body, on the meaning of this pattern.  “Either the progress reports are invalid,” Sullivan said, “or charter schools are lagging.”

The Daily News article and a subsequent posting by Sullivan on the NYC Public School Parents blog prompted a quick reply from Peter Murphy, Director of Policy & Communications for the New York Charter Schools Association (NYCSA), here and here.  Murphy called into question the metric used by the DOE in its Progress Reports, especially the fact that student performance only counts for 25% of the overall score, whereas student progress counts for 60%.  This, he contended, is “woefully lopsided,” and unfairly penalizes schools that have had students scoring high for several years running.  If I read his second posting correctly, he concludes that the progress reports indeed are invalid. 

Murphy went on to argue that charter schools serve more “at-risk” students than do district schools, and the fact that 16% of district students receive special education services, whereas only 9% of charter school students do, is “not at all significant.” He sidestepped the report’s findings about the disproportionately low enrollment of English language learners in charter schools.

Is this anything?  Yes and no.  The relative performance of charter and district schools on the DOE’s School Progress Reports is, in my view, nothing of consequence.  The progress measures have been shown to be highly unreliable from year to year, and I wouldn’t base any conclusions about the relative ability of charter and traditional public schools to promote growth in student learning from these measures.  I think Murphy is probably not correct in arguing that the high performance of students in a charter school in a given year limits the ability of that school to show growth the following year, as the DOE calculations now count persistence at Level 4 from one year to the next to be a year’s worth of growth, regardless of whether a student’s scale score increased or decreased.  But I’ll acknowledge that the state tests that are the basis for the performance and progress measures have shown to be very inaccurate at measuring very high and very low levels of performance.  In their current form, I don’t think that they’re to be trusted for important policy decisions.

On the other hand, I think there’s something to be learned from the composition of students attending charter schools in New York City.  Students attending charter schools are much more likely to be African-American than students in New York City overall.  In charter schools, about 62% of the enrollees are African-American;  30% are Latino;  and 8% are either white, Asian-American, or members of another ethnic group.  In contrast, the distribution of students overall in New York City is approximately 40% Latino;  30% African-American;  15% Asian-American;  and 15% white.  Moreover, 80% of students attending charter schools are eligible for free or reduced-price lunches, in contrast to 75% for students in NYC overall.

The most striking figures in the DOE report are the disparities in the percentages of special education students and English Language Learners in charter and district schools.   Contra Mr. Murphy, I think that the fact that charter schools are enrolling proportionately fewer special education students is worthy of more scrutiny, and can’t be explained away so easily.  So too the disparity in the enrollment of English Language Learners, who represent nearly 15% of students in NYC overall, but only 4% of students in charter schools.  It may be that charter schools have been sited in locations that are heavily African-American, and African-American students are less likely to be English Language Learners than Latino or Asian-American students.  I’m not sure whether or not the evidence bears that out, and it warrants further study.  But Murphy’s contention that “For all the handwringing about special ed students and students with English language needs, charter schools are in fact serving and benefiting a greater proportion of students deemed ‘at risk’ than the City as a whole” doesn’t hold up.  It’s true only in the narrow sense that charter schools serve fewer than 8% white students, whereas NYC schools overall serve about 15%, and charter schools have a slightly higher concentration of students eligible for a free or reduced-price lunch.  It’s certainly not true regarding the very great educational needs of students with disabilities or who are English language learners.

What I found most revealing about the DOE report is that in 2008-09, the New York City public schools served 1.1 million students, but only 24,000 students were enrolled in NYC charter schools.  That’s about 2.2% of the students in the NYC system.  Of course, many of these charter schools are still adding grades each year, such that when they are at capacity, they may enroll three or four times as many students.  But even four times as many students as the current figure would place fewer than 10% of NYC schoolchildren in charter schools.

  • Smith

    A little off topic: Regarding your criticisms of progress reports. Have you, or has anyone else examined the high school ones? I don’t know all the criteria for deciding how to compare schools, but I notice that large, zoned high schools are placed in the same peer group as small schools that are able to screen their applicants. This seems designed to favor the small schools. I’ve worked in both, and the large ones seem to get more of the kids with attendance issues, which can be a huge drag on credit accumulation.

  • Peter

    If we were to “run the numbers” for district schools and charter schools excluding Special Education and ELL students I feel confident that district schools would show significant more “progress.”

    BTW the charter school law requires charter schools to make “good faith efforts” to enroll comparable numbers of Special Education and ELL students as district schools. There is legislation pending to require them to do so … the DOE report may give a boost to the legislation.

    A correction: small schools and large schools fall under the same student selection/placement rules. (some exceptions, small numbers of schools require exams or special talents, i.e., Stuyvesant, Performing Arts, etc.)

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    I agree with you, skoolboy, if you are saying that there is not enough data to claim one way or the other that charter students on balance are “more at-risk” or “less at-risk” than their peers.

    The data points, I think we all agree, are ethnicity, poverty, disability status and ELL status.

    The first two have very little directly to do with the school, but the last two have a whole lot to do with the school. Let me speculate.

    On ELLs:

    (1) I believe there are relatively few charter high schools. I don’t know why that is. I’m going to guess that high school ELL percentages, however, are higher citywide due to the arrival of recent immigrants than the percentages in elementary and middle schools. Is it possible that a fair comparison between the grades of charter schools and the grades of the TPS (to borrow from CREDO) would yield a smaller ELL gap?

    (2) Since many charters start in kindergarten, might they have particularly effective sheltered English or ESL programs and thereby reduce the number of ELL students?

    These are only hypotheses for why charter ELL figures might be lower than that of the general district population. You pointed out a third (neighborhood of location, easily testable enough by comparing the closest zone school’s ELL rate to that of each charter). Again, I’m not saying one way or the other, but I’d like to see these issues studied.

    However, at first glance, the figures of 16% and 4% seem to indicate that there is a huge disparity and charters are under-serving ELL students. I’d like to see my caveats explored by the wonks out there.

    On students with disabilities:

    I think we are a long way from seeing the full sunshine and light of day on the practices of district schools when it comes to IDEA, RTI and referrals to the CSE. I personally believe, from my own experience, that over-referral to the CSE in poor communities is rampant, and that some or maybe even many (I can’t say all) charters support students in ways that preclude needing an IEP, unnaturally driving down the special ed enrollent percentages, but not changing the makeup or “at risk” nature of the population.

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    One more comment on student population that I don’t see made very often: TPS’s are legally entitled to cream, with, what, 5 or 10% of students eligible for gifted programs? Take those kids out of the pool before you look at the lottery pool for charter schools. Then add them back in, and credit them to the TPS’s.

  • http://charterschoolindependent.blogspot.com mathteacher

    Can’t reference NYC, but in Boston, in my experience, there are similar trends in ELL and special ed students in charter schools.

    I agree with KS that charter schools are likely doing things that are precluding needing IEPs. We have students enter our charter school from the district that have completely ridiculous IEPs. We try to get them off of their IEPs if we find that they are unnecessary.

    Secondly, because schools get extra $$ for enrolling ELL students, there is an incentive for schools to label kids and keep them on the ELL rolls. We find that most ELL students that come from the district to our school no longer require labeling, or can be unlabeled relatively quickly.

    That being said, charter schools are often too small to adequately serve the most severe special ed cases. New immigrant families are also definitely harder to attract to a young institution that people who are already frustrated with the larger system.

  • Aaron Pallas

    Smith: I haven’t studied the high school progress reports as carefully as the elementary and middle school ones. The student progress component may be less vulnerable to year-to-year unreliability because it’s not based on state test scores, but there still is reason to be concerned that the accountability pressures distort the data, as progress is based primarily on the percentage of students in each grade who accumulated 10 or more credits during the preceding year. (The allegations of grade-changing to increase credit accumulation and graduation rates at Lehman High School are a possible example of this.)

    Peer schools are defined in terms of students’ proficiency on 8th-grade ELA and math scores, the percentage of special education students, and the percentage of students overage for grade. School size and the school’s method of selecting students don’t figure into the calculation. It’s assumed, I think, that the matching of schools on the basis of 8th-grade test scores will adjust for differences in the screening that high schools use in admitting students. I *have* heard high school principals express concern that their peer schools may not be matched fully on resources, in that some peer high schools may (in spite of Fair Student Funding) have much higher per-pupil expenditures than the school itself.

  • Aaron Pallas

    KitchenSink and mathteacher: You’re identifying what’s known as a “selection vs. influence” problem that is common in research on school effects. We observe a difference in ELL and special ed enrollments between charter schools and traditional public schools. Is this primarily due to differences in the kinds of students who select themselves/are selected initially into charter schools vs. traditional public schools, or to differences in how charter schools treat the ELL and special ed students who enroll? It’s a very important distinction, because the “selection” part speaks to the kinds of students who enroll, and the “influence” part to the school’s practices with, and impacts on, the students who are already there. Longitudinal data on individual students would be the best way to examine this distinction, but in the absence of that, we might look at the percentages of students identified as ELL or special education at the time they enter a charter school and compare that to the percentages of ELL and special ed students at the same grade level in traditional public schools.

  • Smith

    Thanks. Do you agree that matching by 8th grade scores will adjust for the differences in admitting students? I’m talking about schools that accept anyone from the zone who applies as opposed to those who interview, look at records, give their own assessments, etc. In the zoned schools there seem to be more kids with pretty good skills but poor attendance records. As far as Lehman is concerned I think it’s the great, undiscussed effect of the report cards. I’ve seen Lehman-type stuff at one school, seen and felt tremendous pressure to pass kids at another and seen teachers voluntarily lower their standards at another because they don’t want the school to be broken up.

  • http://charterschoolindependent.blogspot.com mathteacher

    Aaron,

    You state “Longitudinal data on individual students would be the best way to examine this distinction, but in the absence of that, we might look at the percentages of students identified as ELL or special education at the time they enter a charter school and compare that to the percentages of ELL and special ed students at the same grade level in traditional public schools.”

    One important point – charters don’t only draw from traditional public schools but also parochial schools in which students don’t have IEPs, etc. – which means intake percentages might be different. It also doesn’t address the reason why IEP/LEP numbers decrease in charter schools – opponents say that it’s because the schools force those kids out while the schools tout their ability to remove kids from the lists of the labeled.

  • Aaron Pallas

    mathteacher,

    Caroline Hoxby’s recent study indicates that the vast majority of charter school students in New York City enter charter schools in kindergarten or first grade. This means that they are not transferring from parochial schools. But it also means that there frequently is no paper trail on the students entering charter schools that would allow us to distinguish between the selection and influence scenarios.

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    In that case, your good idea of measuring IEP and ELL rates the entry point would be complicated by a still-possible selection bias. If charters are creaming, they would have fewer kids in, say third grade, with IEPs who came in without one in kindergarten, but the same scenario could be true if they were providing a better sheltered English or academic intervention program.

    I’m sure there’s a way around it, and maybe it starts with limiting such an analysis to middle and high schools.

  • http://MoreThoughtful.blogspot.com ceolaf wolfhelm

    Aaron,

    I disagree with you on the signficance of this finding — or at least its practical usefulness.

    It is hard to get people to engage on your terms, even if your terms are the most accurate ones. They are inclined to engage on their own. If their own findings contradict their own beliefs, they are more likely to assess their beliefes than if your more robust findings do — even if their methodology is flawed.

    Convincing someone to revisit their own thinking is much harder if you only use their own thinking to help them to do so. It is simply too easy for people to dismiss others’ thinking.

    ****************

    There is a good reason why pen and paper tests are less accurate at the extremes, relative to their accuracy — or at least reliability — in the middle. Simply put, more questions at that difficulty level make it more reliable at that level. Tests are geared towards where most of the students are expected to cluster. Think of the bell curve, right?

    Making it accurate further out on either end requires a lot more questions, questions that are not going to contribute information about most students’ abilities.

    The promise of computer adaptive testing is that it can give students questions clustered around own abillitiy levels, without requiring them to answer lots of other questions. For now, however, we should already expect that NYS tests will be more accurate around the 2/3 line than around the 1/2 or 3/4 lines.

    Of course, you already know that, right?

  • Michael M.

    cw, Friendly proofread:

    “Convincing someone to revisit their own thinking is much harder if you only use *YOUR* own thinking to help them to do so. It is simply too easy for people to dismiss others’ thinking. ”

    No?

  • Stuart Buck

    Contra Mr. Murphy, I think that the fact that charter schools are enrolling proportionately fewer special education students is worthy of more scrutiny, and can’t be explained away so easily.  

    Why does this need to be “explained away” in the first place?  

  • http://edintheapple peter

    Thr current law in NYS requires Charter Schools to “make good faith efforts to enroll same or greter numbers of Spec Ed and ELL as in surrounding district.” Few do …

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