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	<title>Comments on: Test scores should be traced to ed schools, Duncan says</title>
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		<title>By: dora</title>
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		<dc:creator>dora</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Oct 2009 07:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excerpt From an Open Letter to Arne Duncan from Herb Kohl

&quot;...I discovered then, in my early teaching career, that learning is best driven by ideas, challenges, experiences, and activities that engage students. My experience over the past 45 years has confirmed this.

We have come far from that time in the &#039;60s. Now the mantra is high expectations and high standards. Yet, with all that zeal to produce measurable learning outcomes we have lost sight of the essential motivations to learn that moved my students. Recently I asked a number of elementary school students what they were learning about and the reactions were consistently, &quot;We are learning how to do good on the tests.&quot; They did not say they were learning to read.

It is hard for me to understand how educators can claim that they are creating high standards when the substance and content of learning is reduced to the mechanical task of getting a correct answer on a manufactured test.&quot; (Summer 2009) 

For additional information on high stakes testing, Arne Duncan, merit pay and RTTF, check out:
http://seattle-ed.blogspot.com/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excerpt From an Open Letter to Arne Duncan from Herb Kohl</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8230;I discovered then, in my early teaching career, that learning is best driven by ideas, challenges, experiences, and activities that engage students. My experience over the past 45 years has confirmed this.</p>
<p>We have come far from that time in the &#8217;60s. Now the mantra is high expectations and high standards. Yet, with all that zeal to produce measurable learning outcomes we have lost sight of the essential motivations to learn that moved my students. Recently I asked a number of elementary school students what they were learning about and the reactions were consistently, &#8220;We are learning how to do good on the tests.&#8221; They did not say they were learning to read.</p>
<p>It is hard for me to understand how educators can claim that they are creating high standards when the substance and content of learning is reduced to the mechanical task of getting a correct answer on a manufactured test.&#8221; (Summer 2009) </p>
<p>For additional information on high stakes testing, Arne Duncan, merit pay and RTTF, check out:<br />
<a href="http://seattle-ed.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow">http://seattle-ed.blogspot.com/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chicago Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicago Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(... even though you did neglect to punctuate a question -- still the best.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(&#8230; even though you did neglect to punctuate a question &#8212; still the best.)</p>
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		<title>By: Chicago Teacher</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chicago Teacher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 20:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael Fiorillo: Wow, that is the most insightful and well written comment I have ever seen posted on a public message board. Your students probably are blessed to have you as their teacher, but I hope you retire early enough to become our next Frank McCourt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael Fiorillo: Wow, that is the most insightful and well written comment I have ever seen posted on a public message board. Your students probably are blessed to have you as their teacher, but I hope you retire early enough to become our next Frank McCourt.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 03:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know Bush took a lot of flack for the junk science his agencies engaged in.  Did they try anything as silly as this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know Bush took a lot of flack for the junk science his agencies engaged in.  Did they try anything as silly as this?</p>
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		<title>By: Michael M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Huzzahs to Michael F.!
I would love to see a tally of how many up-and-comers in Tweed have MBAs and how many have experience teaching.  Or how many in City Hall have degrees in Public Policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Huzzahs to Michael F.!<br />
I would love to see a tally of how many up-and-comers in Tweed have MBAs and how many have experience teaching.  Or how many in City Hall have degrees in Public Policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Fiorillo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Fiorillo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came to teaching late, after knocking around the world of work and  performing a wide variety of jobs. I also read and studied eclectically. I feel that all of these factors have made me a better teacher. It also meant that I had a fairly wide and deep range of life experience and content knowledge before I went to get my certification. I always saw the ed classes as little more than a means to the end of teaching.

Education schools are mostly bad, and for many reasons. There&#039;s the old saw about TC and Columbia, and how &quot;120th Street is the widest street in the world.&quot; When I went to grad school in TESOL at NYU, it was appalling, but not for the reasons given by most ed deformers. It was awful largely because, of the 12 classes I took, all but two were taught by part-time TAs who ranged from OK to dreadful. It was a clear indication of the university&#039;s disrespect for teaching, and it was obvious that the ed school was little more than a profit center for the university.

Why was this? Sorry, deformers, you can&#039;t blame this one on the union. The program was academically impoverished, despite it exorbitant cost, because of the revenue-intensifying labor relations policies of the university, which valued the hiring of cheap part-timers instead of full-time tenured faculty. It is also testimony to the fact that, as I&#039;ve pointed out here before, NYU is  a real estate development company with an academic subsidiary. 

So yes, the ed schools are pretty bad, but that&#039;s not what this is about. No, this is about the fact that the college education programs, despite their many shortcomings, are still holdouts, where the values of teaching humanistically and teaching the whole child still control some physical and ideological space. The ed schools have not fully joined the New World Order in education, have not fully embraced the market, and must be brought on line and on message. Money aside, this is also a reason why senior teachers are often targeted, since they are less likely to be entranced by the Magic of the Marketplace in education.

Sure, corporate ed deform is about current and future profits/compensation, but it&#039;s also about control and the social engineering that education inevitably involves. The schools are there to replicate the kind of society the overclass wants, one filled with alienation, tedium, stress, insecurity, overwork, and under perpetual monitoring and surveillance by its managers. This is also the society where they reap most of the benefits. The kids are being socialized and prepped to endure the same conditions their parents face, if they&#039;re lucky enough to be employed at all, and the schools and teachers are on a forced march to take them there. 

And by the way, while we&#039;re busy blaming universities and teachers for the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization, where&#039;s the outrage at the MBA programs, which have trained the looters and sociopaths who have cannibalized the US economy and brought it to its knees. But then again, look offstage while Duncan and Co. do their cheap soft shoe routine, and in the wings you&#039;ll see many of the same people preparing to cannibalize the public schools.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came to teaching late, after knocking around the world of work and  performing a wide variety of jobs. I also read and studied eclectically. I feel that all of these factors have made me a better teacher. It also meant that I had a fairly wide and deep range of life experience and content knowledge before I went to get my certification. I always saw the ed classes as little more than a means to the end of teaching.</p>
<p>Education schools are mostly bad, and for many reasons. There&#8217;s the old saw about TC and Columbia, and how &#8220;120th Street is the widest street in the world.&#8221; When I went to grad school in TESOL at NYU, it was appalling, but not for the reasons given by most ed deformers. It was awful largely because, of the 12 classes I took, all but two were taught by part-time TAs who ranged from OK to dreadful. It was a clear indication of the university&#8217;s disrespect for teaching, and it was obvious that the ed school was little more than a profit center for the university.</p>
<p>Why was this? Sorry, deformers, you can&#8217;t blame this one on the union. The program was academically impoverished, despite it exorbitant cost, because of the revenue-intensifying labor relations policies of the university, which valued the hiring of cheap part-timers instead of full-time tenured faculty. It is also testimony to the fact that, as I&#8217;ve pointed out here before, NYU is  a real estate development company with an academic subsidiary. </p>
<p>So yes, the ed schools are pretty bad, but that&#8217;s not what this is about. No, this is about the fact that the college education programs, despite their many shortcomings, are still holdouts, where the values of teaching humanistically and teaching the whole child still control some physical and ideological space. The ed schools have not fully joined the New World Order in education, have not fully embraced the market, and must be brought on line and on message. Money aside, this is also a reason why senior teachers are often targeted, since they are less likely to be entranced by the Magic of the Marketplace in education.</p>
<p>Sure, corporate ed deform is about current and future profits/compensation, but it&#8217;s also about control and the social engineering that education inevitably involves. The schools are there to replicate the kind of society the overclass wants, one filled with alienation, tedium, stress, insecurity, overwork, and under perpetual monitoring and surveillance by its managers. This is also the society where they reap most of the benefits. The kids are being socialized and prepped to endure the same conditions their parents face, if they&#8217;re lucky enough to be employed at all, and the schools and teachers are on a forced march to take them there. </p>
<p>And by the way, while we&#8217;re busy blaming universities and teachers for the Decline and Fall of Western Civilization, where&#8217;s the outrage at the MBA programs, which have trained the looters and sociopaths who have cannibalized the US economy and brought it to its knees. But then again, look offstage while Duncan and Co. do their cheap soft shoe routine, and in the wings you&#8217;ll see many of the same people preparing to cannibalize the public schools.</p>
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		<title>By: Duncan calls most teacher preparation programs mediocre - EdVANTAGE Blog - The Official Blog of the New York State Council of School Superintendents</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duncan calls most teacher preparation programs mediocre - EdVANTAGE Blog - The Official Blog of the New York State Council of School Superintendents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Gotham Schools summed up the reactions of the New York leaders, “It was a clarion call to do what needs to be done,” Tisch said of Duncan’s speech. “The secretary articulated the vision that [Steiner] has been talking about.” [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Gotham Schools summed up the reactions of the New York leaders, “It was a clarion call to do what needs to be done,” Tisch said of Duncan’s speech. “The secretary articulated the vision that [Steiner] has been talking about.” [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 19:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think education degrees are a waste, nor do I think it&#039;s appropriate to blame the colleges of the teachers if their students aren&#039;t performing well. It&#039;s a deeper problem. I&#039;m fine with accountability if it&#039;s done right, but this seems to miss the target and scapegoat teachers. I think Krugman&#039;s opinion piece a week or so ago regarding education being one of the first to face cuts and hence, not valued in America, is really the issue. Instead of saving Goldman Sachs et al, perhaps the caveat should have been &quot;We&#039;ll save you, if you all forgo your billion dollar bonuses and channel the dollars toward education.&quot;  While I respect Obama and Duncan, this program doesn&#039;t address the complex issues that go beyond the classroom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think education degrees are a waste, nor do I think it&#8217;s appropriate to blame the colleges of the teachers if their students aren&#8217;t performing well. It&#8217;s a deeper problem. I&#8217;m fine with accountability if it&#8217;s done right, but this seems to miss the target and scapegoat teachers. I think Krugman&#8217;s opinion piece a week or so ago regarding education being one of the first to face cuts and hence, not valued in America, is really the issue. Instead of saving Goldman Sachs et al, perhaps the caveat should have been &#8220;We&#8217;ll save you, if you all forgo your billion dollar bonuses and channel the dollars toward education.&#8221;  While I respect Obama and Duncan, this program doesn&#8217;t address the complex issues that go beyond the classroom.</p>
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		<title>By: QueensParent</title>
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		<dc:creator>QueensParent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 18:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Secretary Duncan!!!!
Finally someone who calls a spade a spade. Education schools and education degrees are worthless! Worthless! How about someone who knows their subject matter thorougly and then adds on the child abuse/psychology classes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Secretary Duncan!!!!<br />
Finally someone who calls a spade a spade. Education schools and education degrees are worthless! Worthless! How about someone who knows their subject matter thorougly and then adds on the child abuse/psychology classes.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael M.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael M.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 17:56:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gee, Officer Duncan, we&#039;re down on our knees,
No one wants a teacher with an ed school disease.
It&#039;s just all the testing that outta be curbed. 
Now we&#039;re all pedagogic&#039;ly disturbed!&quot;
-- Apologies to Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gee, Officer Duncan, we&#8217;re down on our knees,<br />
No one wants a teacher with an ed school disease.<br />
It&#8217;s just all the testing that outta be curbed.<br />
Now we&#8217;re all pedagogic&#8217;ly disturbed!&#8221;<br />
&#8211; Apologies to Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim</p>
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		<title>By: EFM</title>
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		<dc:creator>EFM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 16:42:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax people. Why is it that when someone says a teacher is inept, some posters jump like they are being personally attacked? As in every profession, there are duds, and there are gems. Great teachers can do wonders to motivate kids.. By the same token, incompetent teachers. effect even the most devoted students; taking the joy out of learning.
Let&#039;s face it, some kids are lousy students, some parents suck at parenting skills, and, some teachers just cant teach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax people. Why is it that when someone says a teacher is inept, some posters jump like they are being personally attacked? As in every profession, there are duds, and there are gems. Great teachers can do wonders to motivate kids.. By the same token, incompetent teachers. effect even the most devoted students; taking the joy out of learning.<br />
Let&#8217;s face it, some kids are lousy students, some parents suck at parenting skills, and, some teachers just cant teach.</p>
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		<title>By: canwetalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>canwetalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Listen Trace It, what are you insinuating?!  Be more specific.  Otherwise, keep your fingers off the keyboard.  Or is it that you have a child that you can&#039;t control at home and your parenting skills are horrible so now you want to blame the teachers for your child&#039;s failure.  So you need to be specific!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Listen Trace It, what are you insinuating?!  Be more specific.  Otherwise, keep your fingers off the keyboard.  Or is it that you have a child that you can&#8217;t control at home and your parenting skills are horrible so now you want to blame the teachers for your child&#8217;s failure.  So you need to be specific!</p>
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		<title>By: CHS SAUSD CA</title>
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		<dc:creator>CHS SAUSD CA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:05:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the real problem is that teacher colleges convince new teachers that we (me? a 20 year vet) are the problem.  they&#039;re going to go out into the school system and &quot;fix it.&quot;  while telling high school teacher candidates they&#039;re learning how to prepare kids for college, they&#039;re actually preparing them for  kindergarten.  when does anyone do group-work/group assessment in college?  why is a lecture bad.  direct instruction is efficient and effective.  the only group work i did in college was when i went into the teacher credential program.  don&#039;t even get me started on merit pay.  based on what?  a standardized test that the kids don&#039;t care about because it has no effect on their future.  i&#039;ve seen kids marking answer number 30 when their book is open to question 10.  the only test kids care about in ca in the exit exam.  and yes, by the way, i do know what to capitalize.  i simply choose not to as a tribute the the free-thinker e e cummings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the real problem is that teacher colleges convince new teachers that we (me? a 20 year vet) are the problem.  they&#8217;re going to go out into the school system and &#8220;fix it.&#8221;  while telling high school teacher candidates they&#8217;re learning how to prepare kids for college, they&#8217;re actually preparing them for  kindergarten.  when does anyone do group-work/group assessment in college?  why is a lecture bad.  direct instruction is efficient and effective.  the only group work i did in college was when i went into the teacher credential program.  don&#8217;t even get me started on merit pay.  based on what?  a standardized test that the kids don&#8217;t care about because it has no effect on their future.  i&#8217;ve seen kids marking answer number 30 when their book is open to question 10.  the only test kids care about in ca in the exit exam.  and yes, by the way, i do know what to capitalize.  i simply choose not to as a tribute the the free-thinker e e cummings.</p>
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		<title>By: trace it</title>
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		<dc:creator>trace it</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:47:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>shouldn&#039;t we really blame the elementary/middle/high schools that these bad teachers attended?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shouldn&#8217;t we really blame the elementary/middle/high schools that these bad teachers attended?</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 23:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to agree that blaming the teacher and his/her school is over the top. I especially think parents need to accept responsibility for kids being unprepared. The teachers and schools simply can not do everything. It isn&#039;t the fault of the school or the teacher if the child is dealing with family issues, divorce, abuse, etc.or has drug and behavior problems, which, duh, effect school performance. This is bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to agree that blaming the teacher and his/her school is over the top. I especially think parents need to accept responsibility for kids being unprepared. The teachers and schools simply can not do everything. It isn&#8217;t the fault of the school or the teacher if the child is dealing with family issues, divorce, abuse, etc.or has drug and behavior problems, which, duh, effect school performance. This is bizarre.</p>
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		<title>By: canwetalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>canwetalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want Arne Duncan to sit in my classroom and teach to the students who come to class 60% of the time, unprepared to learn with absolutely no supplies or notebook, and who always scream at me because they don&#039;t understand lesson #20 when the last lesson they saw was Lesson #3.  Or maybe Arne will have all the students in American take credit recovery programs online and every child passes these bogus credit recovery programs and NCLB will be a thing of the past.  Why isn&#039;t Arne looking into the issue of student attendance and the truancy rate?  Hey Arne, if you want students to succeed then get more parents involved.  Make them accountable, too!  If Arne wants to keep blaming teachers for student failure, then I&#039;ll keep blaming him for the murder of that student in Chicago.  I want point a finger at you, Arne, as long as you don&#039;t point a finger at teachers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want Arne Duncan to sit in my classroom and teach to the students who come to class 60% of the time, unprepared to learn with absolutely no supplies or notebook, and who always scream at me because they don&#8217;t understand lesson #20 when the last lesson they saw was Lesson #3.  Or maybe Arne will have all the students in American take credit recovery programs online and every child passes these bogus credit recovery programs and NCLB will be a thing of the past.  Why isn&#8217;t Arne looking into the issue of student attendance and the truancy rate?  Hey Arne, if you want students to succeed then get more parents involved.  Make them accountable, too!  If Arne wants to keep blaming teachers for student failure, then I&#8217;ll keep blaming him for the murder of that student in Chicago.  I want point a finger at you, Arne, as long as you don&#8217;t point a finger at teachers.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonie Haimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonie Haimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:54:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, mayoral control will fix everything.  That&#039;s deep thinking there, Arne!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, mayoral control will fix everything.  That&#8217;s deep thinking there, Arne!</p>
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		<title>By: Pogue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Becoming a good teacher is a combination of a solid college education and experience.  These educrats need to stop with the Big Brother accountability stuff.  This is terrible and I will not take part in any program that asks me to throw my &quot;French Films of the 60&#039;s&quot; professor under the bus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Becoming a good teacher is a combination of a solid college education and experience.  These educrats need to stop with the Big Brother accountability stuff.  This is terrible and I will not take part in any program that asks me to throw my &#8220;French Films of the 60&#8242;s&#8221; professor under the bus!</p>
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		<title>By: reality-based educator</title>
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		<dc:creator>reality-based educator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Will Preznut Obushma and Secretary Arne trace the test scores back to the parents too?

Oh, right - you can&#039;t just shut down or fire a parent.

Must be the teachers&#039; fault.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Preznut Obushma and Secretary Arne trace the test scores back to the parents too?</p>
<p>Oh, right &#8211; you can&#8217;t just shut down or fire a parent.</p>
<p>Must be the teachers&#8217; fault.</p>
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