A Washington harbinger for New York ATR’s?

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September 17, 2009

A Washington harbinger for New York ATR’s?

by Elizabeth Green, at 11:28 am

This is a bit old, but I just re-read the Washington Post’s story about the tentative contract agreement Michelle Rhee and Randi Weingarten are considering in D.C. This passage struck me:

Under a proposed “mutual consent” provision, principals would have more power to pick and choose teachers. Teachers who failed to find new assignments would have three options. They could remain on the payroll for a year, accepting at least two spot assignments as substitutes or tutors or in some other support role. If they can’t find a permanent job after a year, they would be fired. Teachers could also choose to take a $25,000 buyout or, if they have at least 20 years’ service to the city school system, retire with full benefits.

If Weingarten’s willing to make these job security concessions for excessed teachers in D.C., maybe she’d also nudge the UFT to give ground on ATR’s in New York.

John Hancock

I do not see how this is a concession for some. Hypothetical scenario. I have 20 yrs. I am currently working. I choose to go to another school. I get excessed, I can now retire before the 25/55. Hmmmmmnnn.
http://edintheapple peter

The DC Union President also said the chance of an agreement is “50-50.” I doubt the UFT will make ANY concessions on the ATR issue … why should they? They didn’t create the issue, if there are “incompetent teachers” it is the responsibility of management to act …the current Fair Student Funding System has nothing to do with education .. it is a scheme stabilize movement out of low achieving schools … and a disaster … prejudicial to senior teachers … if the DOE exhausts the current ATR pool, and wants to discuss changes in teacher evaluation/assessment … fine … let the DOE change the FSF plan and make it salary neutral … the DOE has to show by their actions that they want to work w/ the union …
Interested Observer

Didn’t anyone ever teach you to write in complete sentences? I…..hate…..ellipses!
jorge

Peter is a product of our fine education system.
Now lets double teacher’s salaries and give them lifetime unconditional security!
http://edintheapple peter

A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of little minds (Emerson)…. it’s what u say not how u say it … e e cummings wrote poetry in lower case, did it make him a bad poet? At least I didn’t write in “Twitter-Speak.”
Pogue

I’m with Jorge. Double teachers’ salaries. Give them all the support they need in helping kids until they retire, and, if need be, send TFA’ers packing so ATR’s, Teaching Fellows, and those who want to continue and make a productive career out of teaching, can do so.
Gideon

Seems like you’re making the argument that under Fair Student Funding principals would only hire first year teachers, but in reality they need to hire and retain a balance of experienced/expensive and inexperienced/cheap teachers in order to maintain or increase student performance. You don’t see other organizations or companies only hiring 22 year olds; they maintain a balance of experience and inexperience. Having experienced teachers concentrated in lowest needs schools and inexperienced teachers concentrated in the highest needs schools is a real problem, which Fair Student Funding is designed to address.
Pogue

To a strong degree I see age discimination via the ATR problem. Before Bloomberg, the system accepted and developed many new teachers as older teachers retired and/or left the system. Through the closing of schools through “educational experiments”, some of which Bill Gates himself deemed a failure, the last eight years of Mayoral Control has been more of a budget cutting plan than a helping NYC public school kids mission.

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