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Quote: “The whole thing is a made up issue to keep the people from focusing on the real issues facing this country today.”

I whole heartedly agree Eml. I believe we should not be wasting valuable time and money giving speeches to schools. Very good point. Thanks for bringing that to our attention.

Thankfully I didn’t have to spend any time or money on the issue. My children’s school did not air the speech simply because they are in preparations of taking the TAKS state required test and did not need the interruption.

QUE PEDO VATO.

I found this article to be very interesting.
http://cnsnews.com/news/article/53712
But I’m sure people will find a way to explain it away.

Jill, have a little faith in your intelligent 4.0 child. He is going to hear a lot of speeches that you will not be able to censor before he makes it to the operating room. Any one of them by your standards could lead him to dropping out of school, or what ever.your so called fear is

Believe me I know from what I speak, one of my many very educated children, a daughter, told me when she was nine that she was going to be a doctor. She made excellent grades, worked hard but I did not see where I could get the money needed for such an expensive education. and I told her it wasn’t possible . Well my little speech to her went in one ear and out the other. She sure didn’t listen to me. she found a way, She is a Doctor today.
How much more, than her mom. do you think she would have been listening to the Prez?

For those who don’t remember, my original post was “I was reading all posts, and i find it interesting that you all assume that If I don’t want my child to listen to Obama’s speech, that I’m this, or I’m that. (racist, for example). I am just an ordinary citizen, who believes that it is the PARENTS responsibility, not the presidents, to teach your children they should stay in school. ” I’m not trying to censor the president. I’m not racist. I’m not left wing, I’m not right wing. I’m not anti -establishment. If someone wants to tell my son “good job”, go for it. but don’t waste 20 minutes of his time. he’s at school to learn.

Wow disbelief, not sure where that came from. I don’t believe I have said anything negative or derogatory on here. Not sure what you’re so angry about. However, if you’d like some facts to go with your rant:
How many states have filed resolutions invoking the 10th Amendment or Bill of Rights.
http://www.bignews.biz/?id=794467&keys=Illuminati-government-sovereignty-Freedom
An interesting article on the success of our state:
http://www.thecypresstimes.com/article/News/Opinion_Editorial/REASONS_FOR_TEXAS_TO_SECEDE/24005
Seems there is also a map from an economic study running around the Internet showing how the red states are fairing the economic crisis far better than the blue states. The there again, when presented with intelligent comments there are always those to resort to personal attacks rather than stating or quoting legitimate comments.

When I was a wee lad, “civics” was considered part of a well-rounded education. As was “band” and “gym.” Not to mention “geography” and “social studies.”

These days, if it’s not on the ELA or Math test, it’s simply not given its due.

Amongst a number of points touched on by the President YESTERDAY was the notion that one-time students grew up and founded this country, and every child can make a unique contribution to it.

For many kids, it was time well spent. Per GS, some were “rapt,” while others napped. Typical.

For NYC public school (non-charter) kids, the whole broo-ha-ha is MOOT; school didn’t start until TODAY. So for 1.1 million kids, save the few thou in those charters that started before today, it was parent choice exclusively. Let’s, as they say, move on.

Disbelief,
My son knows who the president is, and what he looks like. However we have never personally met him, and I would not presume to say that we “know” him. Maybe the president should have aired this speech at night, so that all of us could learn from him.

So, Mark, now that your “true colors” are showing, let’s talk.

How much did you have to pay?

Back to doing your own typing I see.
“Include.” Fixed it for ya. Free. That’s socialism for ye.
;- )

Bryan, I think the ideas of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush and George W. Bush are destructive (to be clear, my politics are rather different from yours), but I wouldn’t consider preventing my kids from hearing them speak. Or Alan Keyes either, should they have the opportunity.

The notion of “protecting” your kids by preventing them from hearing any opinion you disagree with is doomed to be futile, so what would be the point? Is that really an effective child-rearing philosophy?

The issue was never with Obama’s speech, but the content of the “Original” speech he intended to give to students. In 4 years, these “students” will be “voters” in the presidential election. Reagan was on his way out of office in 1988 and these students will not be voters in the upcoming election. Same with GW Bush in 1991. The election would be complete before the audience would become “voters”. So, as most of you failed to realize the BIG difference, there they are.

So, in closing, maybe I helped you understand or maybe I didn’t. You cannot deny that Reagan nor GW Bush would gain nothing by addressing the children when they did, yet Obama is addressing the voters in his next election. Think long and hard before you reply.

I pointed out the facts. No past President addressed the impressionable youth of this nation and had anything to gain by so doing, UNTIL now. I know the liberals in this country prefer that it become the sole domain of the government to educate our children, including their political views, but it is not. To consider it unlawful detention for me to keep my children from attending school because they are not sick? Last time I checked, they were my children, not the state’s.

Let’s not even talk about the DoE violating the legislation that established the its’ existence. Public Law 96-88 Sec 103 (b) – “No provision of a program administered by the Secretary or any other officer of the Department shall be construed to authorize the Secretary or any such officer to exercise any direction, supervision, or control over the curriculum, program of instruction, administration, or personnel of any educational institution, school, or school system, over any acorediting agency or association, or over the selection or content of the library resources, textbooks, or other instructional materials by any educational institution or school system, except to the extent authorized by law.”

Democrats were enraged when Bush addressed students, but parents cannot be enraged when a Democratic President addresses students? What hipocrasy!!

I cannot believe that just because I didn’t think the speech was a good idea for MY particular situation, that you all think I must be racist. Was The President being racist when he called Kanye a “Jackass?” He must be, because Kanye is black too! One of the great things about America is that we have the right to our opinion, and just because it doesn’t agree with yours, doesn’t mean I’m wrong.
However, I do have to ask, wasn’t the speech supposed to be aired in ALL the schools? elementary included? these children will not be voting in the next election.

The only ones who say GW Bush (part 1) didn’t address school kids are those, like you, with their heads in the sand about what their “heroes” do. I do not suffer such issues. You may also want to consider, 18 years ago, very few classrooms had televisions, where as today almost every class in every school has cable television.

Caroline, you must be racist too, because you hate white people. After all, since you disagree with me and I am white, then by your own logic, you hate all whites. I have zero problems with the President’s race, other then liberal idiots like you throwing it in the face of anyone who disagrees with something he does. I disagreed with a lot of the stuff Bush Jr did and voiced my opinion then. I guess, by your logic, I hate white people too.

The only people who bring up race are the ones doing it to try to stifle criticism of the horrendous decisions he keeps making. Keep trying, and I will keep pointing out the ones talking race are your ilk, the rest of us are talking facts and issues.

KThnx Bye

So…. the reasons to object to President Obama being beamed into classrooms now include the horrendous decisions he has been making.

Like appealing to bipartisanship? Like trying to make sure all Americans have access to affordable health care? These, btw, aren’t even decisions per se: he’s trying to get the kids in the sandbox known as Congress to make the decisions. He’s got the fountain pen ready to sign a deal — too quick for some tastes on the LEFT even.

As if anyone’s subjective political opinions detract from his role as The President.

Sheesh.

Everyone who objected has their own reasons. Fine. Not all are racist. Fine. Some who ARE racist wouldn’t even recognize it. Fine.

NYC classes (with the exception of some charters) weren’t even in session yet on the Tuesday in question.

Let’s Move On.

Or read the transcript of the speech and then tell me what’s wrong with it.

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