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		<title>By: Ellen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:03:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>school by school data on full inclusion of students with special needs
school by school data on Collaborative Team Teaching students and their success rate on 
         state and city tests
number of students with special needs participating in extra cirriccular activities at schools, i.e
   sports, music, arts, etc
number of students graduating with an IEP diploma
number of students currently tracked to recieve an IEP diploma
number of students tracked to receive a general education diploma
number of students receiving a general ed diploma requiring passing grade of 55 or better
number of students receiving a general ed diploma requiring a passing grade of 65 or over
number of students with modifided cirriculum on thier IEP
most often requested areas of modifications

number of Impartial Hearings requested
number of impartials held
number of impartials decided in favor of the parent
number of impartials decided in favor of the school district

number of mediation meetings
number of mediation meetings that resulted in a resolution

number of students using assistive devices

I could go on and on adnd on and on</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>school by school data on full inclusion of students with special needs<br />
school by school data on Collaborative Team Teaching students and their success rate on<br />
         state and city tests<br />
number of students with special needs participating in extra cirriccular activities at schools, i.e<br />
   sports, music, arts, etc<br />
number of students graduating with an IEP diploma<br />
number of students currently tracked to recieve an IEP diploma<br />
number of students tracked to receive a general education diploma<br />
number of students receiving a general ed diploma requiring passing grade of 55 or better<br />
number of students receiving a general ed diploma requiring a passing grade of 65 or over<br />
number of students with modifided cirriculum on thier IEP<br />
most often requested areas of modifications</p>
<p>number of Impartial Hearings requested<br />
number of impartials held<br />
number of impartials decided in favor of the parent<br />
number of impartials decided in favor of the school district</p>
<p>number of mediation meetings<br />
number of mediation meetings that resulted in a resolution</p>
<p>number of students using assistive devices</p>
<p>I could go on and on adnd on and on</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Jessen</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-185481</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Jessen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:44:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think anyone has mentioned this, but I also think they should provide separate data for the programs within large schools. Right now, I belie         ve they are just lumped into the larger school data, so we don&#039;t know if certain programs are skewing the large school numbers. (Unless, of course, I&#039;ve missed some way to find this data on the NYCDOE website. If I have, someone please fill me in!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think anyone has mentioned this, but I also think they should provide separate data for the programs within large schools. Right now, I belie         ve they are just lumped into the larger school data, so we don&#8217;t know if certain programs are skewing the large school numbers. (Unless, of course, I&#8217;ve missed some way to find this data on the NYCDOE website. If I have, someone please fill me in!)</p>
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		<title>By: Leonie haimson</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-185451</link>
		<dc:creator>Leonie haimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 14:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s some stuff that would be interesting to see:

1- the &quot;blue books&quot; in excel for the last eight years, to check out the enrollment trends citywide, by district and school.

2- the underlying data that the education statistics of the MMR are based upon, including their reporting of overcrowding (which differs from the what&#039;s reported in the blue book);

3- discharge data disaggregated by discharge code, by school and by economic status, gender and race/ethnicity for the last six years -- also the discharge data of any kind for the 2007-8 school year (which still has not been released.)

4- the formula that the teacher data reports is based upon, including the sources of the input data on which they rely.

Are you going to share your request when it is made?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s some stuff that would be interesting to see:</p>
<p>1- the &#8220;blue books&#8221; in excel for the last eight years, to check out the enrollment trends citywide, by district and school.</p>
<p>2- the underlying data that the education statistics of the MMR are based upon, including their reporting of overcrowding (which differs from the what&#8217;s reported in the blue book);</p>
<p>3- discharge data disaggregated by discharge code, by school and by economic status, gender and race/ethnicity for the last six years &#8212; also the discharge data of any kind for the 2007-8 school year (which still has not been released.)</p>
<p>4- the formula that the teacher data reports is based upon, including the sources of the input data on which they rely.</p>
<p>Are you going to share your request when it is made?</p>
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		<title>By: John M. Beam</title>
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		<dc:creator>John M. Beam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Data on discipline proceedings -- especially suspension hearings, suspensions, and in-school police action -- need to be raced citywide and by school.  The state actually had data on the race of suspended students at one point, which they had to have obtained from BOE/DOE, but the City never provides it locally. 

John Beam</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Data on discipline proceedings &#8212; especially suspension hearings, suspensions, and in-school police action &#8212; need to be raced citywide and by school.  The state actually had data on the race of suspended students at one point, which they had to have obtained from BOE/DOE, but the City never provides it locally. </p>
<p>John Beam</p>
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		<title>By: Philissa Cramer</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-184732</link>
		<dc:creator>Philissa Cramer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 02:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leonie -- Tomorrow, Tuesday! We&#039;ll be sharing our list with our colleagues at TOPP around noon, and the city&#039;s deadline is 4 p.m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Leonie &#8212; Tomorrow, Tuesday! We&#8217;ll be sharing our list with our colleagues at TOPP around noon, and the city&#8217;s deadline is 4 p.m.</p>
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		<title>By: Leonie haimson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leonie haimson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 00:34:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what&#039;s the deadline?  its not clear.  I have lots of ideas!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s the deadline?  its not clear.  I have lots of ideas!</p>
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		<title>By: Maisie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maisie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Echo that on the ATS (Automate the Schools) data, which includes what classes teachers are actually assigned to teach in schools. That would be a huge help

The second is the School Report Cards. The state puts these together, but DOE manages the ones for NYC. They are not available in Excel spreadsheet form so you have to open each school report individually to compare data. Also, DOE has inexplicably taken down all the reports before 2004. What happened to all that historical data?? It&#039;s nothing to keep it available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Echo that on the ATS (Automate the Schools) data, which includes what classes teachers are actually assigned to teach in schools. That would be a huge help</p>
<p>The second is the School Report Cards. The state puts these together, but DOE manages the ones for NYC. They are not available in Excel spreadsheet form so you have to open each school report individually to compare data. Also, DOE has inexplicably taken down all the reports before 2004. What happened to all that historical data?? It&#8217;s nothing to keep it available.</p>
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		<title>By: canwetalk</title>
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		<dc:creator>canwetalk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomberg, a billionaire with a mega-media world wide who also has an engineering degree, will ensure that the data that will be produced for the public will use the fuzzy-numbers that will display the fuzzy-data that made him the fuzzy-education mayor.  Remember he is the media!  He has convinced many people that he can make the number 17 look like number 1, especially since many New Yorkers have innumeracy.  The data should be given to an independent board who are expert statisticians and metricians and allow them to present the data in a reader-friendly format for all to see and understand.  Moreover, here&#039;s Bloomberg&#039;s chance to provide the public with transparency of NYC government if he has nothing to hide or fudge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg, a billionaire with a mega-media world wide who also has an engineering degree, will ensure that the data that will be produced for the public will use the fuzzy-numbers that will display the fuzzy-data that made him the fuzzy-education mayor.  Remember he is the media!  He has convinced many people that he can make the number 17 look like number 1, especially since many New Yorkers have innumeracy.  The data should be given to an independent board who are expert statisticians and metricians and allow them to present the data in a reader-friendly format for all to see and understand.  Moreover, here&#8217;s Bloomberg&#8217;s chance to provide the public with transparency of NYC government if he has nothing to hide or fudge.</p>
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		<title>By: Smith</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-181917</link>
		<dc:creator>Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 05:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All failing high school grades that were changed into passing ones, broken down by school.  You&#039;ll want to know when the course was taken, the date the change was made, date the student graduated, and teacher&#039;s name (I believe teachers are supposed to be notified when their grades are changed).

Also, (why doesn&#039;t my return button work on this blog?) lateness data would be very interesting - how many students late for school, how many late for class.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All failing high school grades that were changed into passing ones, broken down by school.  You&#8217;ll want to know when the course was taken, the date the change was made, date the student graduated, and teacher&#8217;s name (I believe teachers are supposed to be notified when their grades are changed).</p>
<p>Also, (why doesn&#8217;t my return button work on this blog?) lateness data would be very interesting &#8211; how many students late for school, how many late for class.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah Jessen</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-181704</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarah Jessen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 02:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about some data on District 75? Performance? Graduation rates? Demographics? I&#039;d also like to see some data on YABC programs, evening high schools, and other alternative high school programs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about some data on District 75? Performance? Graduation rates? Demographics? I&#8217;d also like to see some data on YABC programs, evening high schools, and other alternative high school programs.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Ashlock</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-181478</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Ashlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s a pretty good emphasis on the importance of open data: http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_at_state.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a pretty good emphasis on the importance of open data: <a href="http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_at_state.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/talks/hans_rosling_at_state.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Philip Ashlock</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2009/08/28/what-datasets-should-the-bloomberg-administration-open-up/comment-page-1/#comment-181473</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip Ashlock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 22:11:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are actually two opportunities here. The first is the Mayor&#039;s Big Apps program which will let application and web developers build apps on top of city data. That program will be done with data that&#039;s currently available or with data that the city sees enough demand for. Those &quot;demands&quot; (RFEIs) are due on September 1st. The other opportunity is the City Council legislation, Int 991, that would mandate ALL city data to be made available in raw form online. That will be voted on in early fall. Int 991 is like an update to FOIL for the 21st century since technology can now allow instant access to raw digital public data. Please read the post for more information on this effort and how you can be involved: http://topplabs.org/civichacker/2009/08/help-open-the-big-apple/ 

This opportunity really needs the public to show support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are actually two opportunities here. The first is the Mayor&#8217;s Big Apps program which will let application and web developers build apps on top of city data. That program will be done with data that&#8217;s currently available or with data that the city sees enough demand for. Those &#8220;demands&#8221; (RFEIs) are due on September 1st. The other opportunity is the City Council legislation, Int 991, that would mandate ALL city data to be made available in raw form online. That will be voted on in early fall. Int 991 is like an update to FOIL for the 21st century since technology can now allow instant access to raw digital public data. Please read the post for more information on this effort and how you can be involved: <a href="http://topplabs.org/civichacker/2009/08/help-open-the-big-apple/" rel="nofollow">http://topplabs.org/civichacker/2009/08/help-open-the-big-apple/</a> </p>
<p>This opportunity really needs the public to show support.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*  2007, 2008 PSAT data by school


* all ATS Reports


* School Support Organization, Tweed budgets by title


* Grades 5-8  L 1-4 by zip code


* 2007, 2008, 2009 Open Market Transfers by sending school and receiving school


* Rubber Room occupants by gender, race, school and years of experience


*2007, 2008, 2009 teacher U-ratings by school 


*Student suspensions, principal and superintendents, by school, gender and race


will keep folks busy for a year ot so ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*  2007, 2008 PSAT data by school</p>
<p>* all ATS Reports</p>
<p>* School Support Organization, Tweed budgets by title</p>
<p>* Grades 5-8  L 1-4 by zip code</p>
<p>* 2007, 2008, 2009 Open Market Transfers by sending school and receiving school</p>
<p>* Rubber Room occupants by gender, race, school and years of experience</p>
<p>*2007, 2008, 2009 teacher U-ratings by school </p>
<p>*Student suspensions, principal and superintendents, by school, gender and race</p>
<p>will keep folks busy for a year ot so &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: reality-based educator</title>
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		<dc:creator>reality-based educator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:34:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, good luck with that.  I&#039;m sure Bloomberg and Klein - control freaks that they are - will throw open the DOE databases for you to peruse.

But even if they do, bulls@#t stats remain bulls#$t - the higher graduation rates, the higher state and city test scores, the lower crime rate in schools are all the result of manipulation and cheating.  The grad rates go up when &quot;credit recovery&quot; programs hand students semester credits for writing one page &quot;reports.&quot;  Test scores go up when you decrease the number of correct responses needed for a passing score and when you have those tests graded in-house by the very teachers who are being pressured to have students improve on tests under the eyes of assistant principals and principals whose very jobs exist only as long as the scores go up every year.  And the crime rates go down when schools just stop reporting crimes (have to wonder if the &quot;miracle&quot; decrease in crime across the city isn&#039;t a similar fudging of numbers by the precinct captains under the same stat scrutiny from Bloomberg as principals...)  

You know, if some intrepid journalists actually did some investigative reporting of the test scores, the grad rates and the crime rates rather than just transcribing the DOE and City Hall press releases and publishing them as &quot;news,&quot; maybe you wouldn&#039;t need to beg Mayor Mike to open up his databases to scrutiny.  Maybe then you&#039;d know his stats are all bulls#$t.

But then again, that would take actual work and it&#039;s some much easier to just transcribe the p.r. releases and go home and write your novel about an intrepid reporter who speaks truth to power rather than disseminating the lies of the powerful to the powerless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, good luck with that.  I&#8217;m sure Bloomberg and Klein &#8211; control freaks that they are &#8211; will throw open the DOE databases for you to peruse.</p>
<p>But even if they do, bulls@#t stats remain bulls#$t &#8211; the higher graduation rates, the higher state and city test scores, the lower crime rate in schools are all the result of manipulation and cheating.  The grad rates go up when &#8220;credit recovery&#8221; programs hand students semester credits for writing one page &#8220;reports.&#8221;  Test scores go up when you decrease the number of correct responses needed for a passing score and when you have those tests graded in-house by the very teachers who are being pressured to have students improve on tests under the eyes of assistant principals and principals whose very jobs exist only as long as the scores go up every year.  And the crime rates go down when schools just stop reporting crimes (have to wonder if the &#8220;miracle&#8221; decrease in crime across the city isn&#8217;t a similar fudging of numbers by the precinct captains under the same stat scrutiny from Bloomberg as principals&#8230;)  </p>
<p>You know, if some intrepid journalists actually did some investigative reporting of the test scores, the grad rates and the crime rates rather than just transcribing the DOE and City Hall press releases and publishing them as &#8220;news,&#8221; maybe you wouldn&#8217;t need to beg Mayor Mike to open up his databases to scrutiny.  Maybe then you&#8217;d know his stats are all bulls#$t.</p>
<p>But then again, that would take actual work and it&#8217;s some much easier to just transcribe the p.r. releases and go home and write your novel about an intrepid reporter who speaks truth to power rather than disseminating the lies of the powerful to the powerless.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
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		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 17:11:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The accountability data (statewide tests, report cards, survey results) already gets put out on one big spreadsheet, it&#039;s just nearly impossible to find on the labrynthine board of ed site or the even worse state ed dept site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The accountability data (statewide tests, report cards, survey results) already gets put out on one big spreadsheet, it&#8217;s just nearly impossible to find on the labrynthine board of ed site or the even worse state ed dept site.</p>
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