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Thompson, Bloomberg campaigns jousting over education

The first big blows of the election season are being traded today over the two leading candidates’ education records. 

Much of the action is happening in the comments section of a Huffington Post column posted yesterday by Comptroller William Thompson, who has been gaining on Mayor Bloomberg in polls. In the column, titled “Why Joel Klein Should be Fired,” Thompson described what he called “a pattern of brazen actions taken by the Department of Education that fly in the face of basic management standards.” 

Within hours of the column’s publication, DOE press secretary David Cantor had responded. ”Virtually all of Mr. Thompson’s claims are incorrect or distortions,” Cantor wrote in his comment, the first attached to Thompson’s column. 

Then, the mayor’s campaign manager, Howard Wolfson, jumped into the fray, posting a link to the campaign’s official response today, which indicates that Thompson’s five-year tenure as Board of Education president in the 1990s could be a prime target for the Bloomberg campaign. From the statement: 

So, here are the facts: When Mr. Thompson ran the old Board of Education most test scores declined or were flat. Dropout rates went up four points and graduation rates showed little improvement. Pervasive violence in our schools prevented children from learning. Billions in cost overruns were rampant and shoddy accounting even failed to accurately count the number of students in the system.

Despite this poor record, Mr. Thompson insisted on politics as usual, opposing Mayoral Control and failing to end social promotion. In short, Mr. Thompson had ample opportunity to improve and reform a dysfunctional system, and he failed to do so.

But Thompson is looking forward while the Bloomberg campaign is fixated on the past, according to Thompson spokesman Jeffrey Simmons, who also posted a comment. (Simmons got attention last week when he barred DOE employees, including Cantor, from attending two of Thompson’s press conferences.) From his comment:

As Mr. Cantor – and his campaign compatriot – cry foul and discuss the past, Thompson is addressing the future, and a public school system that is held accountable, reigns in out-of-control contract spending (just look at today”s Daily News column exposing another example of over-the-top costs), and strengthens parental involvement in schools.

Here’s the Bloomberg campaign’s official response to Thompson’s ongoing criticism:

BLOOMBERG CAMPAIGN RESPONDS TO THOMPSON’S ATTACKS

Bloomberg campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson today issued the following
statement:

“Bill Thompson’s recent attacks on Mayor Mike Bloomberg’s education
accomplishments make an examination of the Comptroller’s own record
that much more important.

“In fact, voters interested in how a Thompson administration would
administer the schools need only look at Mr. Thompson’s record when he
ran the City’s Board of Education for clues.

“So, here are the facts: When Mr. Thompson ran the old Board of
Education most test scores declined or were flat. Dropout rates went
up four points and graduation rates showed little improvement.
Pervasive violence in our schools prevented children from learning.
Billions in cost overruns were rampant and shoddy accounting even
failed to accurately count the number of students in the system.

“Despite this poor record, Mr. Thompson insisted on politics as usual,
opposing Mayoral Control and failing to end social promotion.  In
short, Mr. Thompson had ample opportunity to improve and reform a
dysfunctional system, and he failed to do so.

“Now, contrast Mr. Thompson’s record with Mayor Bloomberg’s.  Test
scores are at an all time high as New York City students are making
greater gains than students in the rest of the state.  Graduation
rates are up fifteen points. The dropout rate is down almost seven
points.  Violence is down and schools are safer. And the achievement
gap between white students and African-Americans and Latinos is
narrowing dramatically on test scores and graduation rates.

“The contrast couldn’t be clearer.  When Mr. Thompson ran the old
Board of Education our schools were failing.  Under Mayor Bloomberg,
schools are turning around and making real progress.  And those are
the facts.”

Mr. Thompson served as President of the Board of Education from 1996 to 2001. 

  • http://www.thisweekineducation.com john thompson

    My blog post got a couple of similar repsonses from David Cantor.

    Its a shame because in 2012 NYC graduates will have to meet higher standards when the Local Diploma is ended. They should be learning from the audit.
    If these exchanges keep up long enough, David might get around to presenting the evidence that he says the DOE has, and which he indicates was included in the audit, but which was not. Or, he might continue the pattern of the DOE shifting its arguments as the debate unfolds. In fact, the audit said that that was the reason why one record was rejected. They received two different explanations from the DOE and didn’t know which to believe.

    In fact, that is usually what a careful reader would take from the audit and the responses. It would be ridiculous to conclude that all of the DOE’s explanations were “innately illegitimate,” (which was a charge that Cantor threw at me) just like it would be unbelievable that all but three were proper. In most cases outsiders can’t gauge the accuracies of the audit’s or the DOE’s evidence and “he said, she said” narratives. Enough of the DOE’s explanations were not credible, however, that it is fair to describe the patterns.

    The main pattern illustated by the audit was that the “combination of policies like ‘annualization,’ the nonenforcement of the attendance policy, awarding multiple credits for the same course, repeatedly changing transcripts, playing with the definitions of ‘still enrolled,’ and setting their own rules for “discharges,” not to mention ‘credit recovery’” indicates that something is “terribly wrong.”

    Yes, the DOE responded to the charges that 39 students in the sample received multiple credits. But the DOE’s responses in the audit were different than the DOE’s response in Cantor’s subsequent statements. The DOE said that majority of the multiple credits involved PE, band, yearbook, or advisory, (which the audit says is false) but it only responded specifically in three cases. Only one was mentioned as having more credits than necessary. The DOE also argued that the actual courses weren’t repeated but the course’s codes were misunderstood. The Comptroller replied, that the “DOE provided no evidence to support its claim that these instances were repeated course codes rather than repeats of the same course.”

    In cases about the process where it was the auditor’s statements versus the DOE’s without either offering definitive evidence, outsiders should remain silent. I’ll admit that the auditors’ dry “nothing but the facts” presentation seemed more credible than the DOE’s repeated attacks on the auditors’ integrity. I know that the Comptroller is a candidate for mayor, but that doesn’t mean that his professional staff compromised their integrity. And I sure don’t believe that I’ve compromised mine.
    The audit’s account reporting dropouts explained then students are over the age on 17 and miss all but a few days in the spring semester, then the schools are supposed to make the outreach interventions required by law, and document them, and then declare the student as a dropout. Presumably, the school can then engage in recovery efforts and document them. Following mandated procedures does not mean that schools have to give up on the student.

    The DOE said that the outreach interventions were made in the spring of 2006-07, but the audit said that no documentation of those interventions was made. The DOE said that some students were dropped on the first day of the fall of 2007-08, also after making the interventions and documenting them. The audit questioned how the interventions could be done when the students were dropped on the first day of school, it denied that evidence was presented regarding interventions in the fall, and it provided circumstantial evidence that there was not an expectation that dropouts would be reported retroactively as claimed by the DOE.

    Cantor attacked me for using the words “after the fact” and retroactively” when describing the ways that the DOE responded to the draft audit. For these and other reasons, I’m sticking with my words of “after the fact,” and “retroactively.” The audit, for instance, said that at the time of their school visits 14 of the 80 discharges did not have documentation, and that the subsequent information came afterwards. Also, the fall semester comes “after” the spring, and changes in grades that were made were just before graduation were made “after”grades that were assigned originally. Exculpatory information was provided “after” the draft was written. And, the DOE also indicated that retroactive changes in transcripts were good because it shows that administrators were working hard to help students. The DOE, itself, wrote “the school is expected to enter the dropout retroactively.”

    Lastly, the point of my post and comments was not to show fraud, but to show how the NYC administration has a) compromised standards, and b) been hypocritical about it. Joel Klein and others can be awfully strident when criticizing urban teachers for not having high expectations and lowering our standards. But when the best reading of the evidence is that his schools have done the same thing, and have not kept the records required for data-driven accountability to work its miracles, the DOE attacks the integrity of its critics.
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