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Thompson says he’s inclined to end “foolish” progress reports

Comptroller William Thompson called the letter grades given to city schools “arbitrary” and said he would probably eliminate them if he is elected mayor. Thompson made the remarks in an exclusive interview with GothamSchools today.

The controversial reports assign each school a letter grade using a complicated formula that takes into account student test scores and responses to surveys. Critics of the reports have said that they are not statistically reliable and unfairly stigmatize good schools. Today, Thompson called the reports “foolish.”

“Information about schools is important,” Thompson told me. “I think that we’ve seen how arbitrary these letter grades are and I probably would not keep letter grades.”

“Accountability to this school system has meant just standardized testing,” he said. “I don’t believe that a full measure of student achievement is standardized testing.”

Stay tuned for more videos from our interview with Thompson.

  • edu_scientist

    Let’s be absolutely clear about what a student needs to graduate:

    A 65 in Math, Global History, U.S. History, Science for Regents Diploma and Foreign Language, Geometry & Trig, and a 2nd Science for Advanced Regents Diploma.

    Those are STATE Requirements. You want to change standardized testing – talk to the state. To put standardized testing on Bloomberg & Klein is a misguided approach.

    This man offers no solutions. He is just trying to pick on things that are unpopular issues with the gripers and is hoping people jump on his dysfunctional bandwagon.

  • Dissenter

    Edu_scientist, having followed Bill Thompson’s career since he joined the Board of Education in the 1990s (and before my second son had been born), I can say with confidence that the best way to defeat Bill Thompson is just to let the man run his mouth. He didn’t know what he was talking about in the 1990s and he certainly doesn’t have a clue now.

  • Michael M.

    #1 – Fire Klein.
    #2 – Make sure the next Chancellor is an educator.
    #3 – Dump the PRICEY random letter generator.

    Sounds good so far.

  • edu_scientist

    You know what bothers me about this whole Fire Klein and put in an educator business.
    “Today” Joel Klein surrounds himself with brilliant educators with proven track records in the BOE / DOE. That may not have been the case 7 years ago when he stepped in. There was without a doubt too many lawyer types talking policy.

    The people who report and advise Klein are people like Eric Nadelstern, a brilliant educator. Santi Taveras, Laura Rodriguez to name a few.

    I guess most people have no idea who these people are and what they have done.

    * Message to the DOE – Start posting the names of all the brilliant educators who work at Tweed and around the city.

    To think Klein is sitting there coming up with this stuff on his own is completely silly. He’s a leader of the largest school system in the country… he holds a lot of people responsible to make sure things get done.

    He was probably brought in to deal to with Randi who pretty much chewed up and spit out prior chancellors. Negotiating Labor agreements takes a lawyer.

    Was Randi ever a teacher? Finally a teacher will run the UFT!

  • Thompson gets my vote

    Thompson is on the right track. It’s unfortunate that Klein and Bloomberg have essentially bought the major tabloids and trashed him and his reports. The Department of Education is unable to weather criticism about anything. Think back to the bus route changes midyear, and how long it took for them to react. Someone should start to really examine all spending on consultants and on central office staff. And not believe everything the Department says. if anything Thompson speaks his mind, whether you agree with him or not. I give him credit.

  • http://sinksalive.blogspot.com KitchenSink

    Thompson doesn’t speak his mind; he speaks to what he thinks the most voters will want to hear, and slamming Bloomklein at every turn is the way to do it. Bottom line: he had his chance as president of the board of education, and in the end, he blew it. He didn’t make a dent in the dysfunction, in fact he propagated it. Why anyone would ever trust this man with their child’s education or their career is beyond me.

  • Pogue

    I agree with edu-scientist. I’d like to see a list of educators helping Klein, including Weingarten, and the length of their teaching, AP, and principal careers. Seriously. I want to see the history.

  • Spock

    Those letter grades that are given out to rate a school cost millions of dollars that might actually be used in supplying the classrooms or hiring more teachers to bring down class size. The time and energy that schools put into trying the impress just for this rating event could also be spent in working to improve the school environment for those inside the school.

    Most teachers feel that Klein does not respect them. The comment about Klein having educators advising him is only partly true, he does have some, but the majority of them are either Ivory tower educators who have never spent a day in a public school classroom as teachers, or they are educrats. Having met groups of them a number of times on various issues, I know this to be a fact.

  • Michael M.

    I’m confused.
    Thompson was never the Chancellor. And Thompson was never the Chancellor of a centralized system.

    Even with that last point in mind, those who want to compare Thompson to someone might want to compare him to the president of the current Board of Ed, Deputy Mayor Walcott, who was only to happy to turn over the keys to the kingdom to Klein, with absolutely ZERO financial oversight, and adjourn until September.

  • Michael M.

    Corrrection: “too” happy. Darn public school background.

  • em

    It’s great that Thompson is speaking out against this ridiculous practice. Why would the city continue to follow such an arbitrary system of ratings for something as crucial as public schools?

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