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To kindergarten shutouts, top schools official says, “I’m sorry”

Anyone who stayed until the bitter end of a three-hour meeting last night about kindergarten waitlists in Manhattan got a surprise: an uncharacteristic apology from a top DOE official.

Hundreds of parents turned out for a meeting of the parent council for District 2 to vent about having been shut out, at least for now, of their neighborhood schools. Last week, Manhattan parents protested at City Hall after 273 children were put on waiting lists at many elementary schools.

Deputy Chancellor Kathleen Grimm arrived late to the meeting after spending her afternoon dealing with the swine flu outbreak in Queens. She sat quietly in the audience and listened to a tense back and forth between school officials and angry parents. The auditorium had mostly emptied and council members were preparing to adjourn when Grimm approached the microphone to make a surprise statement, which I captured on video above. Here’s a key part of what she said:

I also want to say something that I thought I heard people from the DOE say tonight, but just in case you didn’t, I want to say, I’m sorry. We’re sorry. We have stumbled on some of this planning.

The two officials leading the meeting told parents during the meeting that most schools should be able to eliminate their wait lists by the middle of June, after families find out where they’ve been offered seats in gifted and talented programs. John White, who heads the Department of Education’s efforts to manage school space, said that more children in each area qualified for gifted admissions than there are children on the waiting list.

Simply qualifying for gifted programs does not assure a child a seat in the programs, which have far fewer seats than there are eligible children. But White said that he is confident that the wait list numbers give an inflated sense of how many children will actually not find spots, noting that if the pace of enrollment growth suggested by the wait lists is real, it would be a substantial departure from past years.

If every single child on the waiting lists in Greenwich Village and on the Upper East Side actually attended the school they are listed for next year, kindergarten enrollment in each neighborhood would be a third higher than last fall, he said. In recent years, those neighborhoods have seen annual growth in kindergarten enrollment of 1 to 7 percent. (According to discussions on the Urban Baby Web site, many families haven’t yet made up their minds about whether to enroll in public or private school for the fall.)

Parents last night received White’s reassurances that children would find spots and that the DOE is working on a plan to prevent the problem from recurring with strong skepticism. Elizabeth Rose, the PTA president at PS 183 on the Upper East Side, where there are 31 zoned children on the wait list, said, “We have no confidence that gifted and talented will clear that number.” Other parents asked how the department plans to accommodate families who move into a school’s zone over the summer. And others hammered away at what they said is the core issue, the city’s failure to meet projected enrollment increases with new school buildings.

“Are you all happy with what you’ve heard tonight?” asked parent council member Michael Markowitz at one point midway through the meeting. “No!” audience members shouted in response.

  • http://leadershipmatters.com Frank DeStefano

    This is no suprise. Once the DOE insisted on centralizing even the most basic function of the schoolhouse, projecting enrollment, I knew parents were doomed. For the six years I headed PS 41 .I worked with nursery school directors, looked at new housing starts and the economy to develop my projections. I worked with the local superintendent and together with out PTA hammered out a plan to meet the needs of the parents. The idea that seats in the gifted programs would relieve the overcrowding is rediculous, further demonstating the DOE Officals lack of knowledge of the famlies in the Village. Parents in the “41 zone” routinely accepted a seat in PS 41 over gifted programs, in fact if we accepted 125 kindergartners, we had about a 10% attrtion rate at its highest. Ther DOE needed to engage the community, listed to the local leadership and take advice from those who know.

  • http://www.cecd2.net/home.aspx Michael D. Markowitz, P.E.

    Re D2 overcrowding crisis (aka the underplanning crisis) and salvation via G&T:
    There are three pools of variables in the mix of: a) zoned kids on wait lists, b) G&T qualifiers, and… c) G&T s-e-a-t-s.

    The DOE spin machine would have us focus on that the number of qualifiers is bigger than the number on the wait list, or even that the number of likely acceptances of G&T offers (granted a lower number) is comparable to the number on the wait list.

    This is blatant misdirection. Better to focus on the number of SEATS in (or near) the overcrowded neighborhoods. THAT’s the pertinent stat.

    Including the P.S. 151 kids (that DOE comically refuses to count as wait-listed, though they may yet land out-of-zone), as of the May 6 Rally, in-school parent leaders were counting roughly 350 ZONED kids on wait lists, including a historic summer-arrival forecast. (DOE uses a much lower wait list number, does not add for summer, and uses historic G&T acceptance rates without apparent regard to the limited number of s-e-a-t-s.)

    Not counting the citywide G&T programs for the top 3%-ers, there are roughly 50 district-wide G&T seats for the top 10%-ers in P.S. 11 adjacent to GV, and roughly 56 in P.S. 77 (Lower Lab) on the UES. Unless there’s additional capacity brought on line, it’s then a game of luring parents of 5-year olds — who anecdotally would prefer P.S. 41 or UES schools over disctrict-wide G&T — into morning migrations, or, a zero-sum game of flipping the labels on otherwise gen ed classrooms in-zone. (Last, note that G&T accepted-offer-registration doesn’t even START until June 15, and has no listed end date.) Wait listers have anxiously awaited REAL solutions in INK since Mid-MARCH.

    P.S. I sincerely appreciate the comments of Deputy Chancellor Kathleen Grimm. She is the first DOE HQ official to date to officially recognize that something went awry. Thank you. Over her signature, DOE recently issued a detailed letter addressing GV, and committing to relocate GVMS and Clinton MS by Fall 2010 (not a typo) out of P.S. 3 and P.S. 11 respectively. The UES similarly deserves and urgently needs such a written commitment plan — perhaps to recover P.S. 66.

  • http://plusny.blogspot.com/ Lisa Ehrlich

    First, a thank you to Deputy Chancellor Grimm for being a lady and being able to speak the 2 most difficult words for any adult to use – particularly one representing the DOE – “I’m sorry”. Although, I think Ms. Grimm heard wrong. No other DOE representative said “I’m sorry” during the 2 1/2 hours I sat and listend to dozens of parents asking simple, reasonable questions, and getting long-winded replies which had nothing to do with the question, or received no reply at all. I welcome anyone who was there to correct my observation, PLEASE.

    Second, we as parents are owed more than an apology. We deserve a commitment from Mayor Bloomberg and Chancellor Klein that they suppport neighborhood schools and will commit to building new schools where they are desperately needed (UES in particular) .

    G&T seats will not make this go away this year or any other (Note to John White: We are still waiting for your response on how many seats are available BY NEIGHBORHOOD); 3 K sections planned for a school (151) which exists only in the minds of the DOE will not make this go away. DOE’s continually minimizing the number of children on the wait-list will not make this go away. What will is building propper school buildings with walls, floors and windows! The UES families deserve the same respect and consideration as has been put forth to GV families…permanent, appropriate homes for school-aged children MUST be in place. Without this, we cannot allow our political representatives to vote for continued mayoral control; we cannot vote for Michael “looking for a third term” Bloomberg.

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