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Highly anticipated UFT, Green Dot contract is on the way

The highly anticipated teachers’ contract for the Green Dot charter school in the South Bronx, which has been heralded as an innovative collaboration between a Los Angeles-based charter school operator and the union president Randi Weingarten, is expected to be finalized as soon as today.

The contract is being closely watched for signs of just how flexibly Weingarten is willing to negotiate a teachers’ contract — eagerly by supporters of looser protections for teachers, and with gritted teeth by veterans who believe strong job security is crucial. The original Green Dot charter schools in Los Angeles raised many veterans’ eyebrows here because the schools’ contracts do not include the concept of “tenure” for more senior teachers. The contracts do guarantee teachers protections against unfair dismissal.

Steve Barr, the charismatic leader who founded Green Dot, told me Wednesday that he expects a contract by the end of the week. “It should be finalized this week; I would be very surprised if it’s not,” Barr said. Barr has said in the past that he expects the New York contract to be similar to the one negotiated in Los Angeles.

I put in a call to the union’s charter school office just now for a comment — and was told that the head of the charter school unit, Jonathan Gyurko, is in the middle of negotiations.

The final product of the negotiations could have repercussions for citywide contract negotiations, which could begin as soon as the summer, given that the current contract expires in October. It could also influence the national debate about whether there’s a way to raise the bar on who can be a teacher with support from teachers’ unions.

Union president Randi Weingarten has used her willingness to negotiate contracts with charter schools as an example of how unions can be a part of school reform efforts. She has recently been saying that charter schools should be seen as laboratories for new kinds of labor-management relationships, as well as laboratories for academic innovations.

The teachers’ union has negotiated one contract with a city charter school, Amber, but other charter schools whose teachers the union now represents have not yet finalized contracts.

In his conversation with me Wednesday, Barr listed some aspects of the Green Dot teachers’ contract that he said are crucial. “No tenure, no minutes and hours, but a professional workday, hiring and firing is a site-based decision, and there’s accountability,” he said. Another crucial component, he said, is to protect teachers and treat them as professionals. “We want teachers to be involved in almost every aspect of the school,” he said. The contract is also a slim 30 pages, a fraction of the 165-page New York City contract.

  • ceolaf

    Socrates,

    Again, I don’t think think your argument supports your conclusion.

    We agree that Michael’s point is a poor one, that contracts do not set maximum hours. So, how can you use it as an explanation for why you don’t support union contracts? You mean that it proves that some people don’t want to work hard, or don’t want to work lots of hours? That’s a reason not to support union contracts?

    Can you explain your reasoning a bit more completely? What does his comment have to do with not supporting unions contracts?

  • Socrates

    My point is that Michael’s opinion betrays a common (mis)application of the specified-schedule in the union contract. Though the contract prescribes minimums, they are often interpreted as maximums by the teachers and the union reps. That has been my experience in my school, and that’s what Michael is showing us. I understand that this might not be the fault of the contract, per se, but it definitely is the fault of – or preventable by – the union. The union could easily instruct their reps to encourage hard work and doing what’s best for kids, but neither I nor any of my friends in other schools have ever experienced anything other than union reps and fellow teachers using the contract as if it prescribes the maximum amount of time they can be expected to work. They denigrate teachers who work hard (sycophants) or who take on additional responsibilities without asking for money for it. Michael not only shows us what that mentality looks like on the surface, but what’s behind that line of thinking.

  • Pogue

    Teachers work seven hour days where we plan, teach, go to meetings, help kids socially, set events up, search online for info to help our lessons, make phone calls home, write letters, grade work, teach five classes, and assist other teachers. Then, some of us go home to help and be with our own families, volunteer in our communities, coach little league, work at our synagogue, help the parish, and do myriad things that help others outide of our schools. Then, at home, we also grade work, plan lessons, create tests, and search online to motivate our students. If there are teachers who want to put in extra time and hours at school and not be paid for it, I’m okay with it…But, do not hold it against anyone who cannot or even will not. Stop trying to get blood out of a stone, without proper compensation, and stop trying to constantly make teachers look bad. Knowing what the majority of teachers do, work-wise, no real teacher would ever be as nefariously critical as those who “claim” to be a teacher.

  • Teacher1

    Pogue,

    I find your assertion that if I disagree with your notion of what a “teacher” is and is not then I am not a “real teacher” to be very insulting. Also, I would have to say it is inaccurate. Our profession is clearly constituted by individuals that hold your belief system…we are also represented (probably in growing numbers) by many individuals that do not believe their union represents what is good for kids or for teachers. This discourse is essential and to say your colleagues are lesser professional because they disagree with you only perpetuates an argument grounded in defenses as opposed to ideas.

    Respectfully,
    Teacher

  • Pogue

    Not sure what your point is. I say teachers do a lot, in-school and out. What are you saying?

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