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It’s the Stupid System

Strange bedfellows Joel Klein and Al Sharpton, and their ghostwriters, have a piece in yesterday’s Huffington Post arguing that the key to closing the achievement gap is revamping how we evaluate and reward teachers.  Value-added assessment, merit pay, and presto chango! the achievement gap is gone.

How skoolboy wishes it were this easy.  But strewing together some quotes from President Obama, Linda Darling-Hammond, and Diane Ravitch doesn’t make it so.

Let’s start with our popular President.  Klein and Sharpton quote him as saying, “The single most important factor in determining [student] achievement is not the color of their skin or where they come from … It’s not who their parents are or how much money they have–it’s who their teacher is.”  But that’s just not true.  The gaps in performance among children of differing racial and ethnic backgrounds, and between poor and more economically advantaged children, are substantial even at the start of kindergarten, and many studies show that these differences continue to grow across the early elementary grades.  Moreover, there is little evidence of a narrowing of the gap in the high school years.  And make no mistake:  poor and minority children attend different schools than more affluent and white children, in New York City and elsewhere, and these differences shape students’ subsequent achievement trajectories.    

Moreover there is no evidence–let me repeat that, no evidence–that exposure to a string of effective teachers over time can eliminate the achievement gap.  Klein and Sharpton are reduced to citing the discredited projection of DOE consultants Robert Gordon, Tom Kane, and Doug Staiger that “if low-income minority students could be assured of having teachers who fell in the top 25 percent of effective teachers four years in a row (in lieu of a sub-par instructor from the bottom quartile of teachers), students could close the achievement gap altogether.”  Studies by Brian Jacob, J.R. Lockwood, Dan Goldhaber, Dale Ballou, Cory Koedel and their colleagues show why this cannot be true.      

As usual, skoolboy’s main concern is that Klein and Sharpton are talking about effective teachers without ever once discussing what it is that they do.  Reward the good ones, get rid of the bad ones, it’s all about sorting teachers–and never about actually improving instruction.  Let’s suppose that Klein, Sharpton and others are right–that it is difficult to tell which teachers are going to be highly successful when they start teaching, because the instruction teachers receive prior to taking over a classroom can’t fully prepare them for the challenges of an urban classroom.  Why not focus on professional development, and assisting novice teachers in learning effective practices on the job?  How does giving effective teachers merit pay and dismissing poor performers actually improve anyone’s practice?

Even when Klein and Sharpton stumble onto something promising, they muck it up.  “Structured classroom observations by principals and master teachers, independent assessments of student work, and teacher attendance are just a few of the outcome-based measures that districts might employ,” they write.  Hey, I’ve got an idea!  Why not use observations and independent assessments of student work as mechanisms for improving teachers’ practices?  Is that so alien an approach?

To curry favor with teachers–like that’s going to work here–Klein and Sharpton say, hey, it’s not teachers’ fault.  “The shortage of effective teachers in high-poverty schools stems less from the personal or professional shortcomings of teachers,” they write, “than from a system for cultivating teaching talent that regularly fails both teachers and students. It’s the system, stupid–and it desperately needs reform.”  The heart of this “system” is the teaching profession, which of course is a thinly disguised attack on teacher unions, with a dollop of disdain for ed schools on top.

skoolboy has another stupid system in mind–the one that thinks that the problem of retaining teachers in high-poverty schools can be solved by throwing a few thousand dollars of merit pay at them.  Oddly missing in Klein and Sharpton’s screed is any recognition that it might be easier to retain teachers in high-poverty schools if those schools were safe, had adequate resources, and supported teachers’ work.  The question to ask is not why so many teachers flee high-poverty schools;  it’s why do any choose to stay?

  • http://www.edpolicythoughts.com Corey

    Before leaving my school I put myself through an honest thought exercise — how much would it take for me to stay? I eventually settled on a figure somewhere north of half a million dollars. Otherwise, it just wasn’t worth it. It was never about the money; it was about the working conditions.

  • ceolaf

    There’s this story — whose source I will not yet divulege because I don’t want to wreck its credibllity — about underpants gnomes.

    Yes. I wrote, “underpants gnomes.”

    You see, these gnomes had a plan. Phase 1: Collect underpants. Phase 2. Phase 3: Profit!

    Anytime they were asked about their plan, about the details of their plan, or about how the plan would actually work, they gave the same answer: “Phase 1: Collect underpants. Phase 2. Phase 3: Profit!.”

    We can point out there are are all kinds of hidden assumptions in there. That they have not explained the mechanism or processes or all that fancyschmancy stuff that I so love. Or, we can simply say, “You’ve left out phase 2.”

    In education, the plan is quite simple. Phase 1: Measure. Phase 2. Phase 3: Improvement!

    Now, if South Park could point out the error of this kind of thinking ten years ago, I’d like to think that our leaders could recognize it today.

  • Ken Hirsh

    I think that the piece by Klein and Sharpton, as is often the case, focuses way too much on teachers and not enough on schools.

    As far as great schools, I think the government should allow for vibrant competition of flexibly-operated schools. From there, schools will figure out ceolaf’s “Phase 2″. The government should focus on the outputs and conduct school visits as a check on competency.

    Government isn’t very good at figuring out “Phase 2″. Worse, when politicians feel like they have figured something out, their next move is often to legislate it, e.g. merit pay.

  • ceolaf

    Ken,

    What do you mean by government? Legally, public schools ARE the government, including charter schools (I think). People who work in public schools are government employees. And teachers are “street level bureaucrats.”

    Do you mean legislatures? Do you mean large bureaucracies? DC? Albany?

    The government built the atom bomb and our interstate highway system. The government administers social security. The government collects our trash. The government keeps unsafe medicine off the market. It does a pretty damn good job at a lot of things. The National Institutes of Health are the government. Are they good at figuring things out?

    You say that the government is not good at figuring out Phase 2. Well, who is? The market? Academics?

    “Vibrant competition of flexibly-operated schools” means some good schools and some bad schools. It means some really good schools, and some really bad schools. Even if we knew what to measure and how to measure it — both questionable assertions, by the way — your prescription assumes some horrendously bad schools will be in operation. Sure, they’ll be shut down, eventually. But not until they’ve had a chance to fail miserably.

    Aaron/skoolboy’s point is, I believe, that we are willfully focusing on phase 1 and ignoring phase 2 — when phase 2 is where ALL THE IMPROVEMENT happens. If we want improvement, why no focus on phase 2?

  • Ken Hirsh

    Hey ceolaf,

    By “government”, I mean whatever elected or appointed central authority is made responsible for operating all or most of the schools in a traditional system.

    I believe in the general superiority of “spontaneous extended human order created by a competitive market” as opposed to the “deliberate arrangement of human interaction by central authority based on collective command over available resources”. (Those quotes are Hayek, not Hirsh.) Who is your central authority to implement phase 2? Who is your “we”? If it is closer to “spontaneous extended human order”, you and I are on the same page. If it is closer to central authority based on collective command, we disagree.

    The question, I think, is whether public education is “special” in some way that makes it an exception to the normal rules. Many people (like me) think not, but many others think it is.

  • ceolaf

    Ken,

    There are various central authorities. There are various branch offices. We know that the kids are at the branch offices, that their education happens in the branch offices, rather than in the central offices. This is obvious, right?

    (Side note: There are some layers here. States are branches of the federal central authority. Districts are branches of the state central authority. Schools are branches of the district central authority. Teachers are branches of the school central authority.)

    What should the relationship between the central authority and the branch be? You suggest that it should primarily (exclusively?) be one of measurement. I vehemently disagree.

    The central authority should do more. It should provide technical assistance to the branches. It should look for learning and knowledge of the fundamental work and help the branches to take advantage of that knowledge. It should not just examine at outputs, but also ensure that known bad inputs are avoided (e.g. bad procedures, bad methods, etc.).

    I subscribe to Elmore’s Principle of Reciprocity. He says that for every unit of accountability must be accompanied by one unit of capacity. If the central authority is not providing/building that capacity in the branch, the central authority cannot demand accountability.

    Otherwise, there’s a lot of reinvention of the wheel going on. And lots of experimentation, when we know that in every other field most experiments fail (credit Rothstein for this last point).

    ******************

    Look, I wanted to be great at teaching, not at figuring out how to teach. I want my good to go to schools that are great at instruction, and I don’t care if are great at figuring out good instruction.

    Then district or state or central authority should look at outputs, yes. And they should look at inputs, too. What actually works? What works in these conditions? And they should provide these lessons to other schools and districts.

    ******************

    People have looked over and over again and not found that the organizational stuff really makes much of a difference at all in outcomes. School size. District size. Centralized authority. Decentralized authority. None of those big things really change outcomes.

    The name of the game is “improving instruction.” It appears to me that you suggest that the central authorities do not have a role to play in improving instruction, just in measuring its outcomes. I am suggesting that the central authority DOES have a role to play in improving instruction. In fact, I think that without that role, schooling generally will not improve.

    This is not a question of capitalism vs. socialism. This is not about economies or the the nature of markets. This is about learning — both individual and organizational — and growth.

    ***********************

    Your turn.

  • Ken Hirsh

    Hey ceolaf,

    I do think our debate is often about fundamental issues that go beyond public education. In short, I think flexibility and competition generally allow for cooperation and information sharing in a much more effective manner than central control via government authority.

    When I ask charter school operators what they want from the DOE, they universally focus on some combination of:
    1. School space
    2. More money
    3. More efficient help navigating DOE regulations

    Not a single charter school operator has ever told me that they want more help from the DOE in running their school or guidance on operating or teaching techniques. Meanwhile, many of the charter schools actively engage with other charter schools to discuss best practices. You don’t need a central authority to get information sharing and cooperation.

    Individual and organizational growth occurs quite naturally without a central authority.

  • ceolaf

    Ken,

    1) I don’t believe that people generally have a good sense of what they do not yet know. I believe that there is a good reason for teachers to design curriculum, and not students. I think that asking students what they want to learn and simply following that will leave most of the important things out. A doctor should not simply ask a sick person how they want to be treated.

    Consultation? Sure. But Giving someone a pill for a sprained ankle? A bandaid for blocked artery? No. The doctor knows thing that the patient does not. The teacher knows what the students do not.

    2) So, you go ask people who have already declared that they want to be independent from the DOE — that’s what opening a charter school means — what they want from the DOE and they say that they don’t want technical assistance? That’s like asking Obama voters whether they wanted him to be president. Remember when I commented on biased samples?

    *******************

    When did I speak against flexibility, Ken?

    I am all for flexibility. I think that different teachers, different communities, different groups of students and a million other differences call for different approaches and techniques. I am not talking about a cookie-cutter approach.

    But I am not talking about so much flexibility in the absence of guidance that schools may do things that we already know will fail and damage students.

    And again, there is a place for science, but there are also a place for engineering. There is a place for research, but there is also a place for practice.

  • Ken Hirsh

    Thanks ceolaf.

    You write: “But I am not talking about so much flexibility in the absence of guidance that schools may do things that we already know will fail and damage students.”

    I am wary as to who “we” refers to and how “we” decide which actions are certain enough to effectively make illegal. Given the wide range of viewpoints on so many educational issues, I think this standard can be challenging.

    Finally, good point about the selection bias on charter schools. I think, though, there is still information in their actions despite this bias and, regardless, the fact that they cooperate and share information demonstrates a route to collective progress without a central authority.

  • kelsey

    skoolboy,
    I appreciate you calling Mr. Klein and Mr. Sharpton on the use of bad “research” to support their thinly veiled attacks on teachers. Of course we all want good teachers. My own children have mostly good, 2 bad. So that’s not a bad average. I have worked in a private college prep school and in a contination school. And even though I have garnered respect and awards at both school, I feel a certain lowering of respect from the public that comes with trying to educate students who have failed in regular high school. If teachers at my school feel this, how much more so the teachers who are working so hard in dangerous schools with little support from the community or the leaders of our country. In addition to being condemned for choosing to work in the most difficult circumstances, teachers are also shown disrespect for their social class. Many teachers, including myself, are the first college educated people in our families. We went to state schools, and many chose to become teachers because we want to make a difference for others in our community. But our education and vocation is sneered at while graduates of Tier 1 schools who come to teaching for a couple years through TFA are lionized. In Mr. Bush’s and Mr. Obama’s comments about bad teachers being responsible for all our educational woes and in the comments in the Huffington Post about how smarter people go into professions leaving only the bottom feeders for education, I can see the elitist tone that has grown throughout our country.

  • ceolaf

    Ken,

    I believe that expertise exists. I believe that collectively and over time we can learn one than any individual or small group can learn. I think that people who accomplish great things do by building on the efforts and learning of countless people who came before them.

    And there is more known than any one person or small group could possible know. I don’t just mean more to learn, but even more things to know about.

    So, how do practitioners learn what works and what doesn’t? Word of mouth?

    And because the practitioners — who spend their time practicing — cannot be on top of all the accumulated knowledge and wisdom themselves, how does society prevent them from doing other things that others have already shown don’t work?

    Or, more generally, how do we make progress if formerly discredited attractive ideas are allowed to reappear in our schools over and over again?

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