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	<title>Comments on: Times reports: It&#8217;s Arne!</title>
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		<title>By: Yeah yeah yeah&#8230; &#171; Twin Cities School Notebook (Beta)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yeah yeah yeah&#8230; &#171; Twin Cities School Notebook (Beta)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 19:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] wars, though &#8212; Duncan has signed on to both major reform platforms, and has a history of walking a middle road between the Michelle Rhee/Joel Klein camp and the Laura Darling-Hammond camp &#8212; decent [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wars, though &#8212; Duncan has signed on to both major reform platforms, and has a history of walking a middle road between the Michelle Rhee/Joel Klein camp and the Laura Darling-Hammond camp &#8212; decent [...]</p>
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		<title>By: v</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2008/12/15/times-reports-its-arne/comment-page-1/#comment-3167</link>
		<dc:creator>v</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[plenty of ceo&#039;s don&#039;t use a computer]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plenty of ceo&#8217;s don&#8217;t use a computer</p>
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		<title>By: Pogue</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2008/12/15/times-reports-its-arne/comment-page-1/#comment-3161</link>
		<dc:creator>Pogue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 23:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dang, this is someone Bush would have picked.  I thought I was voting against four more years of Bush-type decisions.  Sad, very sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dang, this is someone Bush would have picked.  I thought I was voting against four more years of Bush-type decisions.  Sad, very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: jdowd</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2008/12/15/times-reports-its-arne/comment-page-1/#comment-3113</link>
		<dc:creator>jdowd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 20:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[worried doesn&#039;t describe my feelings on this pick.  disgusted is a better word.  would it kill obama to pick a single progressive?  by the way, teaching to the test is a problem beyond low-income schools - it has seeped into every aspect of education.  there are even attempts to move this model into college education.
in the end, i think the so-called reform movement is about two things: 1. busting unions 2. simple solutions to complex problems.  while i think many of the reformers motivations are cynical attempts to destroy teacher&#039;s unions, others sincerely want to improve education.  however, the latter really want it to be simple, that it isn&#039;t drives them crazy.  so instead they just continue to insist that the problem is simply bad teachers, and firing bad teachers will create a stellar education system.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>worried doesn&#8217;t describe my feelings on this pick.  disgusted is a better word.  would it kill obama to pick a single progressive?  by the way, teaching to the test is a problem beyond low-income schools &#8211; it has seeped into every aspect of education.  there are even attempts to move this model into college education.<br />
in the end, i think the so-called reform movement is about two things: 1. busting unions 2. simple solutions to complex problems.  while i think many of the reformers motivations are cynical attempts to destroy teacher&#8217;s unions, others sincerely want to improve education.  however, the latter really want it to be simple, that it isn&#8217;t drives them crazy.  so instead they just continue to insist that the problem is simply bad teachers, and firing bad teachers will create a stellar education system.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://gothamschools.org/2008/12/15/times-reports-its-arne/comment-page-1/#comment-3104</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This quote from Greg Palast worries me;

The problem with Duncan is not party affiliation. The problem is education philosophy. And Duncan is a Bush baby through and through, a card-carrying supporter of the program best called, &quot;No Child&#039;s Behind Left.&quot;

At the heart of the program is testing. And more testing. Testing instead of teaching. When tests go badly, the solution is to push the low-test-score kids to drop out of school. If triage isn&#039;t enough, then attack their teachers.

Here&#039;s how Duncan operates this Bush program in Chicago at Collins High in the Lawndale ghetto. Teachers there work with kids from homeless shelters from an economically devastated neighborhood. Believe it or not, the kids don&#039;t get high test scores. So Chicago fired the teachers, every one of them. Then they brought in new teachers and fired THEM too when, surprise!, test scores still didn&#039;t rise.

The reward for a teacher volunteering for a tough neighborhood is to get harassed, blamed and fired. Now THAT&#039;S a brilliant program, Mr. Duncan. But Duncan&#039;s own failures have not gotten HIM fired. As long as his 20-foot jumpshot holds, he&#039;s Mr. Secretary.

In no other cabinet department is the lack of expertise, lack of accomplishment, lack of a degree in the field found acceptable but in Education.

But what horrifies me more than Duncan&#039;s lack of credentials is Obama&#039;s kowtowing to the right-wing clique crusading against the teachers&#039; union and progressive education. The ill philosophy behind the Bush-brand education theories Duncan promotes, &quot;Teach-to-the-Test,&quot; forces teachers to limit classroom time to pounding in rote low-end skills, easily measured on standardized tests. The transparent purpose is to create a future class of worker-drones. Add in some computer training and - voila! - millions of lower-income kids are trained on the cheap to function, not think.

http://www.gregpalast.com/update-obama-slam-duncans-education/#more-2174]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This quote from Greg Palast worries me;</p>
<p>The problem with Duncan is not party affiliation. The problem is education philosophy. And Duncan is a Bush baby through and through, a card-carrying supporter of the program best called, &#8220;No Child&#8217;s Behind Left.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the heart of the program is testing. And more testing. Testing instead of teaching. When tests go badly, the solution is to push the low-test-score kids to drop out of school. If triage isn&#8217;t enough, then attack their teachers.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how Duncan operates this Bush program in Chicago at Collins High in the Lawndale ghetto. Teachers there work with kids from homeless shelters from an economically devastated neighborhood. Believe it or not, the kids don&#8217;t get high test scores. So Chicago fired the teachers, every one of them. Then they brought in new teachers and fired THEM too when, surprise!, test scores still didn&#8217;t rise.</p>
<p>The reward for a teacher volunteering for a tough neighborhood is to get harassed, blamed and fired. Now THAT&#8217;S a brilliant program, Mr. Duncan. But Duncan&#8217;s own failures have not gotten HIM fired. As long as his 20-foot jumpshot holds, he&#8217;s Mr. Secretary.</p>
<p>In no other cabinet department is the lack of expertise, lack of accomplishment, lack of a degree in the field found acceptable but in Education.</p>
<p>But what horrifies me more than Duncan&#8217;s lack of credentials is Obama&#8217;s kowtowing to the right-wing clique crusading against the teachers&#8217; union and progressive education. The ill philosophy behind the Bush-brand education theories Duncan promotes, &#8220;Teach-to-the-Test,&#8221; forces teachers to limit classroom time to pounding in rote low-end skills, easily measured on standardized tests. The transparent purpose is to create a future class of worker-drones. Add in some computer training and &#8211; voila! &#8211; millions of lower-income kids are trained on the cheap to function, not think.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gregpalast.com/update-obama-slam-duncans-education/#more-2174" rel="nofollow">http://www.gregpalast.com/update-obama-slam-duncans-education/#more-2174</a></p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 18:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hopeful also read the comments on the Suntimes website http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1333467,w-obama-arne-duncan-cabinet-121608.article. These are people from Chicago. MAny of us think this is a bad choice. It also validates the worst part of an Obama presidency in my mind. Let me stress this, I voted for Obama, but the thought that he would choose Chicago politics over the national interest did cross my mind. I did not think he would &#039;honor&#039; Chicago like he has. I am extremely disappointed in many of his cabinet and advisor selections.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopeful also read the comments on the Suntimes website <a href="http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1333467,w-obama-arne-duncan-cabinet-121608.article" rel="nofollow">http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/obama/1333467,w-obama-arne-duncan-cabinet-121608.article</a>. These are people from Chicago. MAny of us think this is a bad choice. It also validates the worst part of an Obama presidency in my mind. Let me stress this, I voted for Obama, but the thought that he would choose Chicago politics over the national interest did cross my mind. I did not think he would &#8216;honor&#8217; Chicago like he has. I am extremely disappointed in many of his cabinet and advisor selections.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:53:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[His secretary prints out the emails he receives, he writes the response and the secretary responds. The man literally does not know how to use a computer.  My source is my best friend who works for CPS in the Budgeting Office, he is high level and knows Arne quite well. Also when our city had the prtoest over the first day of school, the protest was announced a few weeks prior, the announcement was made at that point becuase the organziers knew Arne would be unable to comment on the issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His secretary prints out the emails he receives, he writes the response and the secretary responds. The man literally does not know how to use a computer.  My source is my best friend who works for CPS in the Budgeting Office, he is high level and knows Arne quite well. Also when our city had the prtoest over the first day of school, the protest was announced a few weeks prior, the announcement was made at that point becuase the organziers knew Arne would be unable to comment on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Hopeful</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hopeful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 17:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scott-Is that true?  How do you know that Duncan doesn&#039;t use a computer?  I need evidence.  If that IS true, we will be facing the biggest educational setback possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scott-Is that true?  How do you know that Duncan doesn&#8217;t use a computer?  I need evidence.  If that IS true, we will be facing the biggest educational setback possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:32:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Living in Chicago I am so happy that he is gone. I feel bad for the rest of the country now, but at least he is gone. The man does not use a computer. This is kind of comical considering how our children need to learn how to use these wonderful devices, yet their leader has no clue how to use one.  OUr test scores have gone up 4%. In polling that number is within the margin of error, in other words it could be a statistical anomaly that the test scores have gone up. Also I do not believe there has been any studies in regard to how many kids quit school when theirs is closed, instead of going to their new school. Maybe this idea might correlate to our crime rate skyrocketing in recent years? Either way, this is a horrible pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Living in Chicago I am so happy that he is gone. I feel bad for the rest of the country now, but at least he is gone. The man does not use a computer. This is kind of comical considering how our children need to learn how to use these wonderful devices, yet their leader has no clue how to use one.  OUr test scores have gone up 4%. In polling that number is within the margin of error, in other words it could be a statistical anomaly that the test scores have gone up. Also I do not believe there has been any studies in regard to how many kids quit school when theirs is closed, instead of going to their new school. Maybe this idea might correlate to our crime rate skyrocketing in recent years? Either way, this is a horrible pick.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 13:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have to admit that I don&#039;t know a terrible lot about Arne Duncan, but the things I&#039;ve read leave me pretty happy with his selection.  He&#039;s someone who doesn&#039;t seem to view the education debate as an either/or issue between the forces of pure educational good and pure educational evil (unlike some other school leaders we may have been reading about).  If he actually does try to straddle the middle and take the best ideas from both sides he may be the most positive development for educational policy in this country in a long time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit that I don&#8217;t know a terrible lot about Arne Duncan, but the things I&#8217;ve read leave me pretty happy with his selection.  He&#8217;s someone who doesn&#8217;t seem to view the education debate as an either/or issue between the forces of pure educational good and pure educational evil (unlike some other school leaders we may have been reading about).  If he actually does try to straddle the middle and take the best ideas from both sides he may be the most positive development for educational policy in this country in a long time.</p>
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