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High school admissions: Enough about the middle class already

Today’s Times story on Clara Hemphill is a cute and concise portrait of the challenges the city’s complicated high school admissions process pose to middle class parents. But a reader who is going through the process right now writes in with a complaint: Essentially, tell me something I don’t know.

We know the application process makes middle class parents’ hair turn gray, she writes. But the point of centralization was not to please middle class parents. It was to make the process of finding a high school fairer for all the city’s students. The real question the reader would like reporters to ask is, has the new structure done that?

She says there are signs of bumps — the sort that would make the system tough for a poor parent to navigate. She writes:

Plus, the real story that is not getting out there is how little time the high schools have to handle the high school admissions process and the kids they already have.
Some schools simply don’t have time to read all the essays and tests and conduct the interviews. One school I called to find out if my son would get an get an interview said: “We didn’t have time to grade the third round of tests, we are really behind, so we don’t know what is going to happen.’’

  • http://www.columbia.edu Justin Snider

    The one thing I never fully understand or sympathize with in articles of this nature — about “applying” to middle & high schools — is how everybody always forgets that CHOICE has both its upsides and its downsides.
    People tend to forget that school choice is a privilege, not a right. The articles always rant on and on about how difficult things are, how competitive and nerve-wracking the process is, etc., but at the end of the day the author (or parent) typically forgets that engaging in the process itself is a decision one must make.
    The vast majority of students (and their parents) nationwide have absolutely NO choice over which high school to attend. Instead, they are assigned to the nearest local high school. So for all of those like Clara Hemphill and Allison Snyder fretting about their decisions and the entire process, I respond, “At least be grateful that you get to have some say in the matter!”
    That’s more than most of us got.

  • StatMan

    Certainly, having some choice has benefits, but it doesn’t mean that there’s anything wrong with airing frustration or anxiety about the selection process. It’s good that high school kids don’t have to go to the college closest to them, but does that mean they aren’t entitled to kvetch about how taxing the application process is? Perhaps there is a way to have choice without a complete pressure-cooker process that puts more burden on the parents than the child. Maybe there is, and maybe there isn’t, but it seems to me like that question can be explored without just throwing up our hands and saying, “these middle class people should just be happy they have any choice at all!” I’m from the Midwest, and everybody on my block went to the same mediocre school. Yet I don’t find myself being jealous of NYC kids.

  • Clara Hemphill

    I am well aware that my child is very lucky and has better options than most, but that misses the point of the story. If I have trouble navigating this system, what hope is there for a new immigrant who doesn’t speak English, a parent who cannot take off time for work to tour schools, a child with special needs, or one who doesn’t make the cut-off for selective schools?

  • http://www.columbia.edu Justin Snider

    Clara — You make a very important point: choice sounds great in theory, especially as a method of leveling the playing field, but it rarely works out that way in practice. The question is always, “Choice for whom?” Students and parents are choosing schools, yes, but schools are also choosing (or not choosing) certain students and parents.

    Vastly different levels of information, experience and motivation mean that systems of choice can often lead to less equitable outcomes than systems with no choice at all.

    Who typically loses out in systems of choice? New immigrants with limited English, as you say, and parents who cannot take time off from work to tour schools and shop around. That is, arguably the people who need choice the most are also those least likely to benefit from it (at least in current choice configurations).

  • MK

    I recently spoke to a former student who is currently attending 9th grade at a subpar high school in the Bronx. She reported that high school was unchallenging and that she was repeating work she had done in middle school When I attended her eighth grade graduation I was sad to discover that this excellent student would be attending a vocational school. When I asked her why she said her father liked the idea of his daughter being able to get a certificate for doing hair as well as a regents diploma. She also said that she accidently put it down as her first choice. Of course this school wanted her as she is performing above grade level in math and English.

    The point of my story is that currently there isn’t enough information being provided to low income parents. This child had an involved father who celebrated her triumphs and did his best to provide her with academic experiences outside of school as well. And yet he still didn’t know enough about the schools his daughter had to pick through. The high school book has an inordinate number of schools. How do we expect students and parents to figure out the best schools for their children to attend? And adding to the whole situation is the fact that so many schools are new and have no proven track record.

    Choice is great in theory but it doesn’t work without an active effort to provide parents with as much information as possible. Currently most low income parents are not empowered to be active consumers for their children. Whose job is it to educate these parents? The single guidance counselor who is simply trying to make sure each student hands in their top ten choices? The seventh grade teachers who may know very little about NYC High Schools?

  • Smith

    Choice creates stratification. It works for me as a middle-class parent, but I’ve taught at bottom-feeder schools. It’s not pretty. The best thing I can say about the difficult admissions process is that it always provides teachers at the bottom with a few gems – kids who belong in better schools but for whatever reason ended up where they are.

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